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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13755 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
15mins more and my 2 rigs will be totally onto backup work. :-( I'm using it as a chance to reduce my power bill. Dropped from 420W or so down to 185W, the old Core 2 Duo still chugging along. UPS run time has gone from less than 10min to over 30min. Grant Darwin NT |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35006 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
15mins more and my 2 rigs will be totally onto backup work. :-( With the temps dropping up here in the highlands Grant I need all the heat that the rigs can produce at this time of year. ;-) Cheers. |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
Maybe Seti is too big. They should split it into a few INDEPENDENT Projects. That way,there should allways be some work to crunch. Seti had reliabilaty issues, ever since i knew about it, years ago. |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
I think one big problem there is with SETI is the size of the MB task files. They are so small and designed for way back when everyone had modems. Now they are just swamped sending out all those little files and processing them. I seen the 'big boys' bragging that they do a task every 9s, wow talk about server load. Split,send,receive,verify,assimilate ... hell that takes them more time than the big crunchers do! Sure I could just say "make the task files bigger" but then begins the monumental task of combining new and old data. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
It was in plans more than year already. Things going slow these days. AFAIK that task "biggering" now replaced with new project of SETI 8. Not only bigger data chunk size but maybe some new ways to process that data. Too little details known still. |
The Jedi Alliance - Ranger Send message Joined: 27 Dec 00 Posts: 72 Credit: 60,982,863 RAC: 0 |
It's 6:40 AM Thursday Berkeley time. GPU's have been out of work since Tuesday afternoon. CPU's will be out of work in 4-5 hours. It's cold outside and my computers aren't generating enough heat to keep my office warm. I actually got 1 Cuda WU last night. 15 minutes later it was gone... |
FeK9 Send message Joined: 20 May 99 Posts: 40 Credit: 61,229,677 RAC: 26 |
Ping :) Noli tangere circulos meos... |
Victor Wedge Send message Joined: 3 Apr 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 12,569,503 RAC: 0 |
Alright!!!! New GPU WUs just arrived! :-) EDIT: Aw shucks! I only got 4 Cuda WUs. That will last through my 2nd cup of coffee. |
Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
Hopefully you got more than I got this morning when I turned my computer on. They lasted 4 minutes each and then I got 0 tasks. I am assuming those are resends of tasks that have failed or went invalid on other computers. A simple resend/ Just a guess I don't think it means the DB is all fixed and happy again. Bob -------------- Working on the perfect sig file Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
Victor Wedge Send message Joined: 3 Apr 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 12,569,503 RAC: 0 |
The four WUs I received an hour ago completed quickly. But, GREAT NEWS ... I just checked again and I've now got a full load. :-) |
WezH Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 576 Credit: 67,033,957 RAC: 95 |
The four WUs I received an hour ago completed quickly. But, GREAT NEWS ... I just checked again and I've now got a full load. :-) You lucky one. One user did abort almost 200 tasks and You got them... And something weird... Your host 7334605 has 340 tasks in progress when it should have only 200 (100 for CPU and 100 for GPU).... Or is that You have lost tasks in progress? Did You made Reset Project or something similar? "Please keep Your signature under four lines so Internet traffic doesn't go up too much" - In 1992 when I had my first e-mail address - |
Victor Wedge Send message Joined: 3 Apr 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 12,569,503 RAC: 0 |
And something weird... Your host 7334605 has 340 tasks in progress when it should have only 200 (100 for CPU and 100 for GPU).... Or is that You have lost tasks in progress? Did You made Reset Project or something similar? I don't know the answer to your question. I haven't reset. I'm seeing 187 WUs in queue, and 12 crunching = 199. I also noticed on checking that I've got a really high number of errors (46). I believe the most I've seen previously was 3 or 4. |
WezH Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 576 Credit: 67,033,957 RAC: 95 |
I also noticed on checking that I've got a really high number of errors (46). I believe the most I've seen previously was 3 or 4. After browsing Your "In Progress" I did notice that Your host has 10 'Anonymous platform' tasks, all sent 19 Mar 2015. Did You install optimized (Lunatics) application and then uninstalled it? If so, that could cause so many In Progress -tasks and errors. Servers currently don't send "lost" tasks. So if You do reset or install/uninstall optimized applications, those tasks which were in progress at that time will be lost, server just sends new tasks, not those which were in progress. Eventually those tasks will time out. "Please keep Your signature under four lines so Internet traffic doesn't go up too much" - In 1992 when I had my first e-mail address - |
Victor Wedge Send message Joined: 3 Apr 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 12,569,503 RAC: 0 |
I also noticed on checking that I've got a really high number of errors (46). I believe the most I've seen previously was 3 or 4. I guess that explains it, to you at least (heh). Yes, I did install/uninstall Lunatics. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
And something weird... Your host 7334605 has 340 tasks in progress when it should have only 200 (100 for CPU and 100 for GPU).... Or is that You have lost tasks in progress? Did You made Reset Project or something similar? Your host has these numbers; In progress (347) · Validation pending (122) · Validation inconclusive (5) · Valid (234) · Invalid (0) · Error (46) That means you have at Least 147 lost tasks attributed to your host. Looking at the task list, every task from this point onward is most likely a lost task that will eventually time out, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7334605&offset=560&show_names=0&state=0&appid= Due to tasks having different expiration dates, some will expire sooner than others. As others have said, turning off "resend lost tasks" has contributed to problems with the database before. There isn't any reason to think the current database problems haven't been assisted by someone turning off "resend lost tasks". |
Victor Wedge Send message Joined: 3 Apr 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 12,569,503 RAC: 0 |
As others have said, turning off "resend lost tasks" has contributed to problems with the database before. There isn't any reason to think the current database problems haven't been assisted by someone turning off "resend lost tasks". You're speaking slightly over my head. Please clear this up for me. I don't know what you mean by 'turning off "resend lost tasks"'. It sounds as if you're suggesting I did something wrong which could cause DB problems. Or failed to do something I should have done. I haven't done anything of this nature that I'm aware of. The last thing I want to do is cause problems to the system. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
As others have said, turning off "resend lost tasks" has contributed to problems with the database before. There isn't any reason to think the current database problems haven't been assisted by someone turning off "resend lost tasks". No worries...you did not do anything wrong. 'Resend lost tasks' is a feature of Boinc that is turned on and off on the servers, not by the users. Right now it has been disabled due to the extra load it puts on the servers and database, and the database has been a bit troublesome lately. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Unless you have direct control over the servers I doubt you have done anything "wrong". The people controlling the servers turned off 'resend lost tasks' at the server level suspecting that feature of somehow interfering with their webpage server. Some people here told them at the time that turning off that feature has resulted in database problems in the past. We now have database problems currently....I'm sure it's just a coincidence. ;-) |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Meanwhile, back on the ranch. Err....the kitty crunching farm.... The kitties are wandering about aimlessly meowing out loud and sniffing about looking for Seti WUs...... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Victor Wedge Send message Joined: 3 Apr 04 Posts: 28 Credit: 12,569,503 RAC: 0 |
Well, that's certainly a relief. Thanks to both of you for the explanation. ;-) |
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