Last year, 50 miles off California, probe & retreat, showing off refueling capabilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz7STUJQt3k

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

The 2nd amendment to the US Constitution is the reason there has never been a SUCCESSFUL invasion of the US.

No, the reason why you have never been successfully invaded is because:
1) The fact that America has the strongest conventional military which no other conventional military can defeat even less so when they are fighting on home ground.
2) The borders of the US are Canada, Mexico and two large oceans. Where would you invade from? You'd either have to fight your way through Mexico or Canada, or do an amphibious assault from over seas. Both scenarios are almost impossible to pull off for any military force in the world (well, except maybe for the US).
3) Say you do successfully invade, supply lines become an issue. The US is big, the fight would be extremely hard, you need a lot of supplies, and those supplies need to come from over seas, to some port, then loaded in somewhere to be driven to the front. Those are some very stretched out supply lines making any military campaign against the US on US soil almost impossible.

Well of course, non of this applies to Canada and Mexico, but they lack the size and strength to pull off a successful campaign against the US and they know it. Besides, they are allies.

But what we can safely say is that the 2nd amendment has had no role in keeping the US safe. Seriously, if you have the audacity and strength to invade the US, you probably also have the strength to wipe out some stupid civilians with handguns or AR-15's dumb enough to open fire at professionally trained soldiers with military equipment. Send up some drones and you can see those idiots coming from miles away.

The 2nd amendment to the US Constitution is the reason there has never been a SUCCESSFUL invasion of the US.

No, the reason why you have never been successfully invaded is because:
1) The fact that America has the strongest conventional military which no other conventional military can defeat even less so when they are fighting on home ground.
2) The borders of the US are Canada, Mexico and two large oceans. Where would you invade from? You'd either have to fight your way through Mexico or Canada, or do an amphibious assault from over seas. Both scenarios are almost impossible to pull off for any military force in the world (well, except maybe for the US).
3) Say you do successfully invade, supply lines become an issue. The US is big, the fight would be extremely hard, you need a lot of supplies, and those supplies need to come from over seas, to some port, then loaded in somewhere to be driven to the front. Those are some very stretched out supply lines making any military campaign against the US on US soil almost impossible.

Well of course, non of this applies to Canada and Mexico, but they lack the size and strength to pull off a successful campaign against the US and they know it. Besides, they are allies.

But what we can safely say is that the 2nd amendment has had no role in keeping the US safe. Seriously, if you have the audacity and strength to invade the US, you probably also have the strength to wipe out some stupid civilians with handguns or AR-15's dumb enough to open fire at professionally trained soldiers with military equipment. Send up some drones and you can see those idiots coming from miles away.

Thats not true. the Us wa invaded in by the Brits in the was of 1812. They did burn down the white house. Plus I seem to somewhat remember that todo in New Orleans With Andrew Jackson.
Also dont forget that the Japnenese invaded Wake Island,Guam, Attu, And Kiska. All U.S. possesions at the time.
And do not discount our Northen neighbors. Canada has bloodied our nose twice that I know of. Once during our Revolution, And once after our cival war.
And yes it helps to have a big ass ocean on both sides.

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Thats not true. the Us wa invaded in by the Brits in the was of 1812. They did burn down the white house. Plus I seem to somewhat remember that todo in New Orleans With Andrew Jackson.
Also dont forget that the Japnenese invaded Wake Island,Guam, Attu, And Kiska. All U.S. possesions at the time.
And do not discount our Northen neighbors. Canada has bloodied our nose twice that I know of. Once during our Revolution, And once after our cival war.
And yes it helps to have a big ass ocean on both sides.

Well, for one, it werent the British that begun the war in 1812, America declared war first and invaded Canada. It took the British 2 years before they were able to launch an offensive against the US and they never came close to conquering the US. All they did was capture some coastal areas, marched against certain cities and they were defeated by the American military. The 2nd Amendment did not play such a massive role.

As for capturing those islands, well if you count that as US territory than yes, I suppose the US has been successfully invaded. Which then just goes to show that no, the 2nd amendment again did not deter nor defeat an enemy invasion into US territory.

That's not true. the Us was invaded in by the Brits in the was of 1812.

Hmmn, think the English invaded successfully a fair bit earlier than that :-)

I believe they successfully colonised a bit of the States...

...& without a shot being fired. Their name...

...Pilgrim Fathers.

Chris so you think Putin is not going to stop till he hit the north sea !

Not happy he's got Crimea and access the the sea . What with the north pole melting now he has access , but very possible if he's going all Czar Putin on us , guess well see .

So long as China and Fat Kim stay in there boxes and don't interfere ........

But that's the nature of war , to take advantage

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At last:)
What the World but Russia have known for more then a year is now recognized by a Russian newspaper.
Russia had a secret plan to annex Crimea & invade Ukraine before Yanukovych even left.
They even coined 300 medals to the glorious Russian invasion soldiers a month before the annexation!
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fputins-hemliga-ukrainaplan%2F&edit-text=

I hope your all wrong Jan
what with the B/s in Middle east . Maybe that why Iddiot Abbotts possibally sending a lot more troops in the thousands rumor is at America's request , There going to need there's for the old enemy Russia and us smaller allies can keep there flank ..... nothing these days would surprise me

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I hope your all wrong Jan
what with the B/s in Middle east . Maybe that why Iddiot Abbotts possibally sending a lot more troops in the thousands rumor is at America's request , There going to need there's for the old enemy Russia and us smaller allies can keep there flank ..... nothing these days would surprise me

Sweden are seldom wrong about Russia. We have a very long history with them.
33 wars during the ages.
As a conscript in the Signal Corps I learnt that Sweden are Always homing in thier military radios.
For instance the Checkoslavician invasion by Russia in 1968 was known 2 days before the checks knew.
I also met conscripts who did this monitoring and we listened to the russian who gave away lots of information:)

Yep, & you can thank this man for that :-)

Thanks Guglielmo Marconi:)

It's only the Russian people who don't what their military does.
The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers wonder where their sons are!
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/silent-deaths-the-price-of-a-russian-soldier-s-life/510135.html

The revelations made by the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers about the number of Russian soldiers dying in Ukraine are just another example of the Kremlin's complete lack of regard for the lives of those serving in the Russian army, writes columnist Anna Pivovarchuk.

For instance the Checkoslavician invasion by Russia in 1968 was known 2 days before the checks knew.
I also met conscripts who did this monitoring and we listened to the russian who gave away lots of information:)

How very 'neutral' of you not to warn the Czechs.........

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

For instance the Checkoslavician invasion by Russia in 1968 was known 2 days before the checks knew.
I also met conscripts who did this monitoring and we listened to the russian who gave away lots of information:)

How very 'neutral' of you not to warn the Czechs.........

What do you mean? Tjeckoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

About non-lethal weapon:)
My brother, who used to drive a cab many years ago, had some pepper-spray in his cab just in case.
A police officer noted that and my brother was convicted for unlegal possession of a weapon.

A reason the UN small arms treaty will NEVER be ratified by the US congress.
The 2nd amendment to the US Constitution is the reason there has never been a SUCCESSFUL invasion of the US.

As WWII Japanese Admiral Yamamoto said(educated in US), "an invasion of American soil will find a gun behind every blade of grass".

And finally author Robert A Heinline made the comment " A well armed society is a polite society."

Works for me.

Britain hasn't been invaded since 1066 AD, and we don't feel the need to all carry guns.
Also, I believe the rest of the world considers Brits rather more polite than Americans.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

For instance the Checkoslavician invasion by Russia in 1968 was known 2 days before the checks knew.
I also met conscripts who did this monitoring and we listened to the russian who gave away lots of information:)

How very 'neutral' of you not to warn the Czechs.........

What do you mean? Tjeckoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

A point which I'm sure soothed your consciences immensely........the Czech people were struggling to free themselves to live the same unfettered existence you enjoy.

Obviously not worth the phone call.

Your response, as with all 'neutral' governments will be "It would not have made a difference in the outcome". Maybe not, but does that mean it wasn't worth the effort?

History has shown those who try to play both sides of the game are eventually devoured by one side or the other.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Britain hasn't been invaded since 1066 AD.

Not quite correct :-)

The British Isles were successfully invaded on 30th June 1940 until 9th May 1945.

Britain hasn't been invaded since 1066 AD.

Not quite correct :-)

The British Isles were successfully invaded on 30th June 1940 until 9th May 1945.

I forgot about the Channel Islands.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

For instance the Checkoslavician invasion by Russia in 1968 was known 2 days before the checks knew.
I also met conscripts who did this monitoring and we listened to the russian who gave away lots of information:)

How very 'neutral' of you not to warn the Czechs.........

What do you mean? Tjeckoslovakia was part of the Soviet Union.

A point which I'm sure soothed your consciences immensely........the Czech people were struggling to free themselves to live the same unfettered existence you enjoy.
Obviously not worth the phone call.
Your response, as with all 'neutral' governments will be "It would not have made a difference in the outcome". Maybe not, but does that mean it wasn't worth the effort?
History has shown those who try to play both sides of the game are eventually devoured by one side or the other.

My consciences? What Swedens diplomates did at that time is unknown to me.
It's more than 40 years ago it happened.
Phoning Soviet at that time? Are you joking?

BTW Sweden has not been a neutral country for ages.
Only on the paper.

Britain hasn't been invaded since 1066 AD.

Not quite correct :-)
The British Isles were successfully invaded on 30th June 1940 until 9th May 1945.

Yes. And Sweden has a cultural invasion from the US:)

And The US has a Cultural Invasion from everywhere. Every Country's Population, Religion, and Culture, is here.
Perhaps if we REALLY became 'One World': It would look like The USA.

Almost like European countries then:)
Without Putin and his henchmen and neo-nazis of course.