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Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Yikes - San Mateo is really close to us. I wonder where they relocated the kitty. I believe they said they took it to Caster Valley, or something like that, and turned it loose. {hands in pockets, rolling eyes, looking innocent} |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13131 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Raccoon invades Sweden! Raccoons would absolutely LOVE Finland... water everywhere and such a beautiful country. |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13131 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Yikes - San Mateo is really close to us. I wonder where they relocated the kitty. There is a whole lot of open space in the hills around here... and lots of deer for them to eat. Hmmmmmmm... what's all that growling I hear coming from the corner of my zucchini patch? |
Scarecrow Send message Joined: 15 Jul 00 Posts: 4520 Credit: 486,601 RAC: 0 |
Hmmmmmmm... what's all that growling I hear coming from the corner of my zucchini patch? Wererabbit? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
"Rakastan supi" as they say in Finland:) Here is a racoon baby. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65801 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Yikes - San Mateo is really close to us. I wonder where they relocated the kitty. Well it ain't Grace, that's fur sure.. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65801 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Well I think AB474 is dead(this is/was in the CA State Legislature), since any bill in the budget committee suspense file at the last meeting of the subcommittee that hasn't been voted on, is dead and I watched the the committee today on the calchannel, AB474(Public Social Services: SSI/SSP) never came up for a vote, unless something I don't know of happens, the bill is dead. So much for increasing the ssp amount from $156.40 to $354.40 a month in 2016, I could have used that extra $198.00 a month.. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Chris, we in the US are extremely sensitive right now to anything said that could be even construed as wishing harm to those who choose to 'Serve and Protect'. Police here are being intentionally targeted, for death, by various groups for perceived or actual 'wrongs' done them. Some feel they have been abandoned by their President and certainly by the former Attorney General. This has led to a general disregard for authority by some which has been amply demonstrated in Ferguson, Mo. and Baltimore. I'm sorry if calling out statements like 'Typical trigger happy USA police. Bastards.' seems unkind, but those sentiments have NO PLACE in civilized discussions. Sorry this went off topic, but I felt an explanation was in order as I was the first to take exception to your post. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30706 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I fully accept that DG, but my response was to post 1682219. US police have a worldwide reputation for shooting first and asking questions afterwards. When it comes down to what you have rightly highlighted, as innocent police officers who serve, being targeted, then I support that policy for their own survival and well being. My original comment was to do with animal welfare, which I stand by. And you didn't bother and read that animal control / wildlife was on scene and ordered the event. Nor did you bother and read the animal was at a child care facility. I suspect there are a few PETA types would not mind feeding some human children to hungry animals. And now we can give your despicable knee jerk a rest. |
Dimly Lit Lightbulb 😀 Send message Joined: 30 Aug 08 Posts: 15399 Credit: 7,423,413 RAC: 1 |
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Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 20399 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
I can think of 1 or 2 children. But it is not totally their fault. The parents had a large non-control way the children were raised unfortunately. But that is a story probably not told. |
Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
Sad, but true. In some cases a shoot to kill might be warranted, but as in other Countries, a shoot to disable needs to tought in the USA. Worst case, shoot at the knee cap, best case disable the shooting arm/hand. Just my two cents worth. Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Sad, but true. In some cases a shoot kill might be warrented, but as in other Countries, a shoot to disable needs to tought in the USA. I though we were talking about an animal shooting.... Pretty hard to shoot a raccoon's kneecap. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Sad, but true. In some cases a shoot to kill might be warranted, but as in other Countries, a shoot to disable needs to tought in the USA. Easier said than done. In the heat of the moment, adrenalin pumping, and a moving target, it is hard enough to hit the center body mass, much less a specific body part. That stuff just about never happens in real life, only in movies or TV. Because if you miss, or even if you do hit the knee or gun hand, the bad guy may still be able to shoot you, or a bystander. That is why cops are taught, if they have to shoot, aim for the center body mass and continue shooting until the threat is neutralized. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I never had a policing course, but read some. The number one advice is...in most courses I have read, is.......... Shoot first, ask questions later. The rule of the old west. Now, I am not here to debate whether this is right or wrong. But the basic training is for self preservation. They are out to get you, not vice versa. One moment of hesitation can cost your life. One more can cost you your soul.............. I watched 'American Sniper' last night. You need to watch and appreciate it. It is NOT what it was made out to be. It turned out to be more of a documentary about Chris Kyle, what he did and why he did it and it's consequences to his personal life than anything else. He did what he had to do, became obsessed with his craft, and wished above all else to serve his country. That is all I shall say save being a spoiler. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30706 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Might be better discussed in politics, but as it has started here ... Shoot to wound? Not a real life option. Here is why. If the bad person has only done enough for you to wound them, if you happen to miss -- real possibility -- you may end up killing them and they didn't do enough for you to do that to them. Now you the police officer are on trial for manslaughter or murder. However if they have done enough for you to kill them, then you can shoot and no matter what the outcome wound or death will be correct. The monkey wrench is you have no idea if the bad guy is a much better sharpshooter than you are. If so and anything goes wrong with your shot to wound, including the bad guy ignoring his wound, you can end up dead. Last, I don't really want the police having to make decisions, about can I kill or only wound. If they are using a gun the choice should be yes/no, not yes/maybe/no. If they don't have right to kill, then billy club, bean bag, Taser or pepper spray. The real issue is the idiots who are asking for a Darwin award when the cop yells drop it. Last https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1SRtkhh-U now you know why people holding cell phones in their hands get shot dead. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Shoot to wound? Not a real life option. Here is why. If the bad person has only done enough for you to wound them, if you happen to miss -- real possibility -- you may end up killing them and they didn't do enough for you to do that to them. Now you the police officer are on trial for manslaughter or murder. +10 The fourth rule of firearms (paraphrase) "Know what is beyond the target". By shooting to wound, you are taking the chance of injuring/killing innocent bystanders. There is no shoot to wound, that is a silly concept. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Whilst I know Angela has always said "there are no off topic post here". This is now veering towards politics so perhaps time to move to lighter subjects. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65801 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
How's this for lighter? I found some batty kitchen towels that Angela will love, on Halloween.. Or this here? Here's the ebay search that I did on Kitchen towels for Halloween, though I had been just looking for some kitchen towels to replace one that must be at least 50 years old and falling apart, at least as soon as I can. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13131 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
My sister gave me a skull scarf for my birthday. I told her it could do double duty, both as an accessory in my Halloween wardrobe, and as a lovely accent piece to wear on Talk Like A Pirate Day. |
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