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I find the Silence - Deafening, and understand the TRUE motivations behind it.

I find that you think there is a silence on it very telling.

I guess if a black person speaks and there isn't a white person there to hear him, then he isn't really speaking in your world.

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In Europe racism are increasing:(
For instances we have Sweden Democrats.
Currently, the Sweden Democrats holds throughout Sweden as a hostage in what increasingly appears to be a game for 13% of the population. This game also serious spill not only over the country's politics but also in our courts.

Yes, overt racism is increasing in Europe. Religion is the ultimate teacher of the thought processes behind racism. You are either one of us or you are some filthy subhuman trash.

Include Ideology in the mix.
It becomes Us against Them, and the Mass Murder's begin.

Include Culture and Languages in the mix and you get genocide.

Yep.

DEM Toebakkeee Companies, Are Racist.

Both The Fergie and NYC Cases Began, ALL BECAUSE of Toebakkeee.

The Aug. Incident started with A Robbery of Toebakkeee from a Store.

The Jul. Incident started with The Illegal Selling of Toebakkkeee from a Store.

Hmmmm, seems Both The Toebakkeee Companies and Stores selling Toebakkeee are Racist.

Yep. Racism has DEEP ROOTS, DEM Toebakkeee Roots. Centuries and Centuries Old, likeee deBlubberingO says.

Man O' Live. Smoke 'em ifn youse gots 'em.

Yep.

p.s. Oh Yeah, And The SOUTH. Let's Not FOget, Toebakkeee Comes from DEM Southerners. Yep, DEM Racist Southrens.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

In Europe racism are increasing:(
For instances we have Sweden Democrats.
Currently, the Sweden Democrats holds throughout Sweden as a hostage in what increasingly appears to be a game for 13% of the population. This game also serious spill not only over the country's politics but also in our courts.

Yes, overt racism is increasing in Europe. Religion is the ultimate teacher of the thought processes behind racism. You are either one of us or you are some filthy subhuman trash.

Where do you find racism in religions?
No you cant. As you say, it's all about us and them.
And most countries in Europe is now secularized.
The "thought process" is something else.

Dr. HOHUM Here. Yep. Here on Da Isle, dere Don't Seem to be No Racism. Heck us Lava Rockin' Ones all 'bout Look da Same, sousa I guess We Beez Da Same Race. I Suppose, huh? Anyways tho, People, Unlike Us, do Lean Against, Stand and Sit On Us Without Askin', and Take Pics and Vids, without Askin'.

But, DEM Birds, Oh DEM Birds. They Sit, Stand, Lean sometimes I suppose, but but but They SHAT and PEE All Over Us! Flying Above Us, They Also Doo Doo and Pee on Us! 'Is' Dat Racism? 'It's' Sometin' I Tells ya. Sometin' Indeedee.

IfN weez Beez in NYC, deBlubberiO would Take Care of 'em, Yes Indeedee He Would! We Wouldn't Beez Geetin' dis Centuries and Centuries of PEE and SHAT on Us fO Nuttin'. Yep, Oh Yep.

Yep, HOHUM. Beatin' Dat Clean Me Up DRum DRum fO 400 Long Long Lava Rockin' Years.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Interesting column
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-1206-banks-black-stereotypes-20141206-column.html

Police expectations damage black men's realities

Black men are dangerous, violent and criminally inclined.

You don't have to be a bigot to have that image embedded in your psyche. Growing up in America is enough. Our country's history, culture and social divide feed a subconscious attachment to stereotypes, even in the minds of people with no measurable racial bias.

Decades of research have demonstrated that a mere subliminal flash of a black man's face can make us fear the worst — to evaluate ambiguous behavior as aggressive, to miscategorize harmless objects as weapons, to shoot quickly and to inappropriately dispatch a perceived threat.

In video game experiments requiring split-second judgments, subjects — no matter their race, age or attitudes — are quicker to fire at an armed black man than at a white man carrying a gun, and more likely to shoot unarmed blacks than unarmed whites.

That raises criminal justice issues that won't be resolved by body cameras. It's a problem centuries in the making, and belongs to all of us.

Brings a very interesting issue. Can someone who has no measurable racial bias be a racist? Can a black officer be racist against blacks?

Could it be that this perceived police bias, isn't racism as traditionally known, but some deeper uncontrollable subconscious reaction? The research reported in my first post, shows that there is something going on that is not part of the conscious mind. It also shows that man is tribal. But we are left that black police are biased against blacks, or members of their own tribe. This is new research and may begin to explain a lot of what the real issues are. Can you accuse someone of being a racist for this when it only is in the subconscious and therefore not under their conscious control?

Is it a learned behavior, perhaps at a very early age? Is it some strange left over from a long long time ago in our DNA, when we were still chimps and big dark skinned gorilla's terrorized us? This is very interesting when we remember that black police have the same trait. What does it come from and why?

Perhaps this research will eventually shed some light on why some whites will swear they are not racist, and they even test not biased, yet they will still do things that are called racist. The research is showing that 100% of the people are racist. Perhaps this subconscious bias needs a different label as it appears to come about from a different place then traditional overt racism.

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I find the Silence - Deafening, and understand the TRUE motivations behind it.

I find that you think there is a silence on it very telling.

I guess if a black person speaks and there isn't a white person there to hear him, then he isn't really speaking in your world.

I know nothing about Your Life Experiences.

You don't know me, nor my experiences, including loves.

Have YOU ever walked down the Street, with your beautiful Black Grandchildren, and get Racist Stares from BOTH Black Racists and White Racists?

Have YOU heard and seen the Racist Comments from SOME on BOTH sides of The Family?

The Foundation of your reply, says much about YOUR thinking.

I have. To all of the above.

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Interesting column
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-1206-banks-black-stereotypes-20141206-column.html

Police expectations damage black men's realities

Black men are dangerous, violent and criminally inclined.

You don't have to be a bigot to have that image embedded in your psyche. Growing up in America is enough. Our country's history, culture and social divide feed a subconscious attachment to stereotypes, even in the minds of people with no measurable racial bias.

Decades of research have demonstrated that a mere subliminal flash of a black man's face can make us fear the worst — to evaluate ambiguous behavior as aggressive, to miscategorize harmless objects as weapons, to shoot quickly and to inappropriately dispatch a perceived threat.

In video game experiments requiring split-second judgments, subjects — no matter their race, age or attitudes — are quicker to fire at an armed black man than at a white man carrying a gun, and more likely to shoot unarmed blacks than unarmed whites.

That raises criminal justice issues that won't be resolved by body cameras. It's a problem centuries in the making, and belongs to all of us.

Brings a very interesting issue. Can someone who has no measurable racial bias be a racist? Can a black officer be racist against blacks?

Could it be that this perceived police bias, isn't racism as traditionally known, but some deeper uncontrollable subconscious reaction? The research reported in my first post, shows that there is something going on that is not part of the conscious mind. It also shows that man is tribal. But we are left that black police are biased against blacks, or members of their own tribe. This is new research and may begin to explain a lot of what the real issues are. Can you accuse someone of being a racist for this when it only is in the subconscious and therefore not under their conscious control?

Is it a learned behavior, perhaps at a very early age? Is it some strange left over from a long long time ago in our DNA, when we were still chimps and big dark skinned gorilla's terrorized us? This is very interesting when we remember that black police have the same trait. What does it come from and why?

Perhaps this research will eventually shed some light on why some whites will swear they are not racist, and they even test not biased, yet they will still do things that are called racist. The research is showing that 100% of the people are racist. Perhaps this subconscious bias needs a different label as it appears to come about from a different place then traditional overt racism.

It is well known that racism is largely unconscious, which is why it is so important that we are made aware of how it affects our judgement so we can compensate for it.

it might be partly biological, but that is only a small part of the story. A lot of it is socially constructed, otherwise how would you explain why black people (and other oppressed races, such as native americans) often view themselves in the culturally negative ways of the dominant culture? I've known black people to injure themselves trying to bleach their skin so they could look 'beautiful'. There is no way this self hate is biological, it is a reflection of what all the countless tv shows, magazines and moves tell us is good and beautiful. "White is innocent, black is bad.". American Black women spend a fortune trying to straighten their hair to look more like white people and therefore less threatening. They might not realise that is why they are doing this, they think they are making themselves more beautiful. Why would they think that their natural 'black' hair is not beautiful? There is no biological explanation for that. There is however a very powerful social explanation for it. It is called Internalised Racism.

Black people who hate or dislike white people do not do so for the same reasons that white people hate black people. There is no equivalence here as implied by Clyde because there is no equality. I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

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I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

Do you remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi#Burundi_genocide_.281994.29
Or this?
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/04/iraq-kurds-press-states-recognise-genocide-anfal-201441371637191288.html

I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

Do you remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi#Burundi_genocide_.281994.29

Do you remember that these differences between Tutsi and Hutus were actually emphasised by the white Belgian colonists? They were the ones that imposed the idea that the Tutsi's were superior because they were more white and therefore instigated the racial hatred?

Not the best example to use.

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http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/02/06/anonymous-creates-map-turtle-islands-missing-and-murdered-aboriginal-women-147502

Does this belong in the against all women thread or the race thread? Or perhaps the policing thread as they won't investigate these disappearances?

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I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

Do you remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi#Burundi_genocide_.281994.29

Do you remember that these differences between Tutsi and Hutus were actually emphasised by the white Belgian colonists? They were the ones that imposed the idea that the Tutsi's were superior because they were more white and therefore instigated the racial hatred?

Not the best example to use.

Of course I know that Belgium have some dark pages in the history.
But that conflict has nothing to do with skin color.
Its about groups of peoples who feel they are more superior to other groups.
Us and Them!

I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

Do you remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi#Burundi_genocide_.281994.29

Do you remember that these differences between Tutsi and Hutus were actually emphasised by the white Belgian colonists? They were the ones that imposed the idea that the Tutsi's were superior because they were more white and therefore instigated the racial hatred?

Not the best example to use.

Of course I know that Belgium have some dark pages in the history.
But that conflict has nothing to do with skin color.
Its about groups of peoples who feel they are more superior to other groups.
Us and Them!

Indeed..and skin colour was used as a way of differentiating one group from another.

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I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

Do you remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi#Burundi_genocide_.281994.29

Do you remember that these differences between Tutsi and Hutus were actually emphasised by the white Belgian colonists? They were the ones that imposed the idea that the Tutsi's were superior because they were more white and therefore instigated the racial hatred?

Not the best example to use.

Of course I know that Belgium have some dark pages in the history.
But that conflict has nothing to do with skin color.
Its about groups of peoples who feel they are more superior to other groups.
Us and Them!

Indeed..and skin colour was used as a way of differentiating one group from another.

Actually I can not see the difference in skin color in this case:)
Maybe Tutsi's can...
Anyway racism is "only" a part of the problem.
It's when groups of peoples start to blame other groups where it's starts to be ugly.

Interesting column
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-1206-banks-black-stereotypes-20141206-column.html

Police expectations damage black men's realities

Black men are dangerous, violent and criminally inclined.

You don't have to be a bigot to have that image embedded in your psyche. Growing up in America is enough. Our country's history, culture and social divide feed a subconscious attachment to stereotypes, even in the minds of people with no measurable racial bias.

Decades of research have demonstrated that a mere subliminal flash of a black man's face can make us fear the worst — to evaluate ambiguous behavior as aggressive, to miscategorize harmless objects as weapons, to shoot quickly and to inappropriately dispatch a perceived threat.

In video game experiments requiring split-second judgments, subjects — no matter their race, age or attitudes — are quicker to fire at an armed black man than at a white man carrying a gun, and more likely to shoot unarmed blacks than unarmed whites.

That raises criminal justice issues that won't be resolved by body cameras. It's a problem centuries in the making, and belongs to all of us.

Brings a very interesting issue. Can someone who has no measurable racial bias be a racist? Can a black officer be racist against blacks?

Could it be that this perceived police bias, isn't racism as traditionally known, but some deeper uncontrollable subconscious reaction? The research reported in my first post, shows that there is something going on that is not part of the conscious mind. It also shows that man is tribal. But we are left that black police are biased against blacks, or members of their own tribe. This is new research and may begin to explain a lot of what the real issues are. Can you accuse someone of being a racist for this when it only is in the subconscious and therefore not under their conscious control?

Is it a learned behavior, perhaps at a very early age? Is it some strange left over from a long long time ago in our DNA, when we were still chimps and big dark skinned gorilla's terrorized us? This is very interesting when we remember that black police have the same trait. What does it come from and why?

Perhaps this research will eventually shed some light on why some whites will swear they are not racist, and they even test not biased, yet they will still do things that are called racist. The research is showing that 100% of the people are racist. Perhaps this subconscious bias needs a different label as it appears to come about from a different place then traditional overt racism.

It is well known that racism is largely unconscious, which is why it is so important that we are made aware of how it affects our judgement so we can compensate for it.

How can you compensate for it if the time period to act is so short the thought never enter the conscious mind, as happens in policing?

it might be partly biological, but that is only a small part of the story.

First time you have ever allowed that biology may have a part to play in human interactions.

A lot of it is socially constructed, otherwise how would you explain why black people (and other oppressed races, such as native americans) often view themselves in the culturally negative ways of the dominant culture?

Culture. Is this the word that should be "ism'd"?

I've known black people to injure themselves trying to bleach their skin so they could look 'beautiful'.

Young white women similary injure themselves, starving themselves to look like the anorexic models in popular culture. So your example is not unique to one race.

There is no way this self hate is biological, it is a reflection of what all the countless tv shows, magazines and moves tell us is good and beautiful.

Yes. Culturalism. The very thing that radical Muslims rail against, their children enulating TV, magazines, movies, etc. and ignoring their own culture.

"White is innocent, black is bad.". American Black women spend a fortune trying to straighten their hair to look more like white people and therefore less threatening.

Same as Latina women who spend money on hair dyes and bleach to look more Nordic and less like their Spanish or Portuguese mixed with Native American heritage. Others choose to play up their Native American side and spend money to look more Oriental.

They might not realise that is why they are doing this, they think they are making themselves more beautiful. Why would they think that their natural 'black' hair is not beautiful? There is no biological explanation for that. There is however a very powerful social explanation for it. It is called Internalised Racism.

I would not be so sure there is not some biologic basis, but only a partial one. On this planet, most species heard. Birds do. Fish do. Ruminants do. Elephants do. Chimps do. Wolves do. Why not humans? So looking like you aren't different may matter to becoming some predators meal. We may have some small dark corner of DNA making us want to look alike and the media supplies us with the image to emulate.

Black people who hate or dislike white people do not do so for the same reasons that white people hate black people. There is no equivalence here as implied by Clyde because there is no equality. I will not bother to respond to any comments by people who come out with the tired old trope "but black people are racist too" because it totally ignores 100s of years of mistreatment of one race by another.

So because of past history, in your eyes racism can never end until blacks enslave whites for 100s of years to make it all even. Anyway that is what it sounds like.

So if you have two job applicants, one a black youth and the other a white youth, with identical records on paper, what decides it? It is because one shows up with pants around their hips and their underwear showing and the other is in a suit and tie? Is it because you think your customers expect your employees to hold to a certain standard of dress? Is it Racism or Culturalism? Are we using the wrong word for this very real unconscious bias, because one carries a lot of baggage and thus plays better sensationalism?

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So, The Thread Title says I'm A Racist and I Admit I Am.

All The Way. Conscious, Un-Conscious, Sub-Conscious, and Dead.

Yet, I Cannot Make Racist Comments.

Man O Live.

Brainiac Racism I Say.

Yep.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

The first thing to do is think of all humans as ONE race!!!!!!!! Despite arguments to the contrary all humans are identical genetically. Color and other minor exterior differences are due to environmental conditions that had thousands of years to settle in before we started moving all over the planet on a regular basis.

I don't like to think of myself as racist but I do admit I am biased toward people of like mind and offended by people with closed minds no matter what their color.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Sub-Conscious Speaking Again:

If I Had A Multiple Personality Disorder, Could One Personality be Racist, One Non-Racist, Another White, but Racist, Another Black but Racist, Another White, but Not Racist, another Black, but Not Racist, One Asian and So On and So Forth, or Would All Be Racist, since Brainiacs Believe The Sub-Conscious 'is' Involved in Unintentional Racism and Rot Like Dat?

Wondering? At Least One of Us 'is'.

Yep.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

The first thing to do is think of all humans as ONE race!!!!!!!! Despite arguments to the contrary all humans are identical genetically. Color and other minor exterior differences are due to environmental conditions that had thousands of years to settle in before we started moving all over the planet on a regular basis.

I don't like to think of myself as racist but I do admit I am biased toward people of like mind and offended by people with closed minds no matter what their color.

I'll admit Bob that I also have biases against some others (colour or race though is not part of them), but after all the years taxes that I've paid I hate professional bludgers. :-(

Cheers.

after all the years taxes that I've paid I hate professional bludgers. :-(

+1 wiggo

+1 Bob

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