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Message 1687859 - Posted: 4 Jun 2015, 21:51:32 UTC - in response to Message 1687846.  

I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

I've heard the stereotypical myth of the lazy Mexican. It is bovine excrement. A people who endure an incredibly dangerous trip to the USA, and somehow you think they won't succeed? Maybe you need to learn just how hard working and industrious they are. http://www.latimes.com/nation/immigration/la-fg-enriques-journey-sg-storygallery.html Now you tell me why you think they don't succeed? Oh, first you better find out if they already have. And maybe that is their culture.

Again, I'm not the one making arguments that culture has anything to do with it. Thats you.
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Message 1688036 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 9:56:00 UTC

Here is a breathtaking step for the slow shift (drift?) out of nearly a thousand years of self-imposed isolation for a country:


The beauty contest winner making Japan look at itself

... In just two years here I have clearly absorbed a lot of the local prejudices about what it means to be "Japanese".

My confusion lasts only until Ariana opens her mouth. Suddenly everything about her shouts out that she is Japanese, from the soft lilting tone of her voice, to her delicate hand gestures and demure expression.

Well of course she is. Ariana was born in Japan and has lived here all her life...

... In Japan the reaction to Ariana's victory has been oddly muted...




Times change and culture evolves out of xenophobia only slowly in some places...

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Message 1688045 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 10:19:00 UTC - in response to Message 1688036.  
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Japanese Single Eyelid to Double Eyelid.
Easy Instant Eyelid Lift Without Surgery...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SMPB3X5Osc
This is just crazy.
Are the "White" race more beatiful than others?

btw Are muslims a race? They sure are treated like some inferior race in Europe.
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Message 1688088 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 13:04:20 UTC - in response to Message 1688045.  

Janne most Asians don't like there eyes . There always trying to look like westerners . Hair colour is another thing they hate too .

So to answer your question , apparently the Japanese think we are . And no Muslims are not a race any more than all catholic's are Italian
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Message 1688093 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 13:24:06 UTC - in response to Message 1688088.  
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And no Muslims are not a race

At very least muslims are treated in the very same way in Europe as black people in America.
We met some marrocan guys in Casablanca.
They looked like muslims usually do.
But one guy and a girl was more darker then the others.
It turned out that they where berbers, a nomadic people that lives in Northern Africa.

Here is a berber.
Lorine Zineb Nora "Loreen" Talhaoui, born October 16, 1983 in Ã…kersberga, is a Swedish singer, songwriter, voice actress, TV host and television producer. She won the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 with the song "Euphoria".
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Message 1688097 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 13:26:33 UTC - in response to Message 1688088.  

Janne most Asians don't like there eyes . There always trying to look like westerners . Hair colour is another thing they hate too .

So to answer your question , apparently the Japanese think we are . And no Muslims are not a race any more than all catholic's are Italian

There's a certain irony in that. White westerners spending a fortune on tanning products to look brown, and brown orientals spending a fortune on paling products to look white.
Maybe we should just swap countries.
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Message 1688099 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 13:29:55 UTC - in response to Message 1688097.  

Janne most Asians don't like there eyes . There always trying to look like westerners . Hair colour is another thing they hate too .

So to answer your question , apparently the Japanese think we are . And no Muslims are not a race any more than all catholic's are Italian

There's a certain irony in that. White westerners spending a fortune on tanning products to look brown, and brown orientals spending a fortune on paling products to look white.
Maybe we should just swap countries.

Very good idea:)
We white people like warmer climate...
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Message 1688103 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 13:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 1688093.  

mmm She's a good sort . typical libra , Singers , actors , songwriters , tv host s and producers .
One of the most likely places you find Libra's is the entertainment industry .

Boy i chose wrong then . And to think i've even been told by professional singers i have a good voice , wonder if that's why my mates never ever told me to shut up when i'd start singing in the car when we where out cruising smashed of me face .:)
And i'm not joking i've been told a few times i can sing .
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Message 1688106 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 13:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 1688103.  
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mmm She's a good sort . typical libra , Singers , actors , songwriters , tv host s and producers .
One of the most likely places you find Libra's is the entertainment industry .

Boy i chose wrong then . And to think i've even been told by professional singers i have a good voice , wonder if that's why my mates never ever told me to shut up when i'd start singing in the car when we where out cruising smashed of me face .:)
And i'm not joking i've been told a few times i can sing .

I'm also a Libra:)
Astrology is yet another way to categorize people just the very same way to categorize people by race.
And the entertainment industry has a very high gay factor.
Does that means that Libra's are more gay then others?
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Message 1688113 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 14:03:02 UTC - in response to Message 1688099.  

Very good idea:)
We white people like warmer climate...

Not me, it's 23 Celsius here at the moment, that's too warm, i'd be happier in your country.
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Message 1688121 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 14:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 1688106.  

I'm also a Libra:)


Hello, fellow Libra!
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Message 1688126 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 14:27:01 UTC - in response to Message 1688113.  
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Very good idea:)
We white people like warmer climate...

Not me, it's 23 Celsius here at the moment, that's too warm, i'd be happier in your country.

Well you haven't been here in the Winter.
It's both cold and dark.
Sweden −53.0 °C (−63.4 °F) Malgovik, Västerbotten County 1941-12-13 Thats Lucia day...
Weird though that I never heard africans and muslims complaining about our climate.
The other day a kid from the middle east was running on the yard only dressed in his underwears when it was about 9 degrees C. Brrr.
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Message 1688139 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 15:30:17 UTC - in response to Message 1688106.  

Cheeky bugger speak for your self . Just because i know a few gays as friends NO BLOODY WAY AM I GAY . hehehehe

Ozzie you a Libra too ?
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Message 1688167 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 16:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 1688139.  
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Cheeky bugger speak for your self . Just because i know a few gays as friends NO BLOODY WAY AM I GAY . hehehehe

LOL
I was just saying that the entertainment industry has a high gay factor.
For instance Eurovision Song Contest that now Australia is part of.
Both male and female gays:)

I have met one gay guy who was the godfather of a very good friend of mine.
Once he asked me if I wanted to have Children. He wanted to.
btw. He rent an appartement in Southern Manhattan in september 2001.
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Message 1688181 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 16:56:05 UTC - in response to Message 1687829.  

They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]

I'm not saying that Americans aren't racist against Latino's as well. I'm saying that the way racism against Latino's manifests itself does so in a way that doesn't make cops more inclined to shoot them without cause.

Case in point, I've heard Gary here complain about 'Black culture' and how it supposedly prevents them from succeeding in society and how it somehow makes them look more suspicious to cops so they get shot sooner. I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

Exactly. You don't hear people calling Latino's "thugs".

I'd be interested to hear what exactly Gary thinks it is about black "culture" that makes them so "inferior".
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Message 1688307 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 22:42:06 UTC - in response to Message 1688181.  

They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]

I'm not saying that Americans aren't racist against Latino's as well. I'm saying that the way racism against Latino's manifests itself does so in a way that doesn't make cops more inclined to shoot them without cause.

Case in point, I've heard Gary here complain about 'Black culture' and how it supposedly prevents them from succeeding in society and how it somehow makes them look more suspicious to cops so they get shot sooner. I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

Exactly. You don't hear people calling Latino's "thugs".

I'd be interested to hear what exactly Gary thinks it is about black "culture" that makes them so "inferior".


I'm sorry, Es, but we do hear a term like that here. Have you not heard of the gang "Latin Kings" for example?
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Message 1688393 - Posted: 6 Jun 2015, 4:17:10 UTC - in response to Message 1688307.  
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Have you not heard of the gang "Latin Kings" for example?

I have.
The dude thought he was cool.
Because he had a pistool.
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Message 1688408 - Posted: 6 Jun 2015, 5:02:37 UTC - in response to Message 1688307.  
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They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]

I'm not saying that Americans aren't racist against Latino's as well. I'm saying that the way racism against Latino's manifests itself does so in a way that doesn't make cops more inclined to shoot them without cause.

Case in point, I've heard Gary here complain about 'Black culture' and how it supposedly prevents them from succeeding in society and how it somehow makes them look more suspicious to cops so they get shot sooner. I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

Exactly. You don't hear people calling Latino's "thugs".

I'd be interested to hear what exactly Gary thinks it is about black "culture" that makes them so "inferior".


I'm sorry, Es, but we do hear a term like that here. Have you not heard of the gang "Latin Kings" for example?

Somehow I think Mara Salvatrucha are thugs and in need of capital punishment. And Sarge, I think she lives too far Norte to understand.
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Message 1688427 - Posted: 6 Jun 2015, 6:19:13 UTC - in response to Message 1688408.  
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They over police Latino neighborhoods too, but I don't see any statistics indicating Caucasians (Latinos) are being shot out of proportion.

Yeah, but there isn't some idiotic racist notion about Latino culture.


WOuld you care to learn some of the slurs against HIspanics/Latinos? (Actually, I don't think I could bring myself to publish them here. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlXcwo-Ow8), an absolutely awful derivative of an ok sci-fi show. In this "last" episode of the watered-down version issued 1.5 years later, they attempt to includes racism against Hispanics as part of a larger overall story. Think 30 years is ancient history?)

WHy do you think, now, we have people demanding we have a fence along the entire US/Mexico border?[/url]

I'm not saying that Americans aren't racist against Latino's as well. I'm saying that the way racism against Latino's manifests itself does so in a way that doesn't make cops more inclined to shoot them without cause.

Case in point, I've heard Gary here complain about 'Black culture' and how it supposedly prevents them from succeeding in society and how it somehow makes them look more suspicious to cops so they get shot sooner. I've never heard him talk about 'Latino culture' and how that supposedly causes Latino's to not succeed in society.

Exactly. You don't hear people calling Latino's "thugs".

I'd be interested to hear what exactly Gary thinks it is about black "culture" that makes them so "inferior".


I'm sorry, Es, but we do hear a term like that here. Have you not heard of the gang "Latin Kings" for example?

Somehow I think Mara Salvatrucha are thugs and in need of capital punishment. And Sarge, I think she lives too far Norte to understand.


I don't know who Mara is off the top of my head.
While you may be right about Es being too far north (and, previously, across the pond), I do believe Es ... and Michel ... can be helped to see a big picture and they can help us. Often, we are talking past each other.

ES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PneRfRYysPA. In this video, Latin Kings are referred to as thugs. (Warning to Es and all, profanity in the video.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTXq-Eqsd6w (I have not watched all of this fuller length video.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuKv03FnBoc

Gary: do either of the following 2 videos at all have to do with the culture you are talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGqlrVmVULc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqpC_nrzEs

Note to all: my posting of these videos should in no way be construed as condoning either the views of those in the videos nor those against them. I post them for Es, Michel and others to get a better idea of the complex situation here in the USA.
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Message 1688561 - Posted: 6 Jun 2015, 15:33:04 UTC

A few minutes ago 2 kids aged 5 or 6 from a muslim country was playing on the yard. They was angry at some other kids.
Guess what they did?
They pointed at them with the middle finger and shouted "F**K YOU" in English.
I say the same to US Movie industry!
Only 30 years ago we didn't have obscene swear words!!!
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