Ah, they could dictate how their economy worked. Originally, before the war, it would have been done through the commerce clause as the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863 would have been enforced. ...

As to the cause, it was political in nature. The southern states had spent time negotiating to be allowed to be slave states, but they did not have enough population to hold such a position in congress due to the proportional voting for congress. The northern abolitionist states had the votes to renege on those agreements. As they saw themselves losing they decided to withdraw. Withdrawal could not be allowed so blood was shed.

It still seems to me that the root cause, if you will, is centered around slavery, with the southern states trying to keep it. Whether they believe they had economic reasons to keep it is only tangentially related. I'm sure all the Kings and Nobles didn't want their peasants to be free either.

Now as to the word dictate, it is correct. The tyranny of the majority. Public opinion shifted, correctly, that slavery was wrong. So the majority dictated to all what their morals were to be. A similar thing happens today, but cigarette smoking isn't seen as something to go to war over. Government revoking a former right will always be seen in the same light by those who exercised the now forbidden right, no matter how correct the ban is. Today of course it is seen from the other side of the fence as granting freedom to the oppressed. It is all a choice of perspective, as every view of the universe is different.

Fair enough. I can see 'dictate' being used in such a context. It would seem to me, though, that using dictate in this context, with an apparent tip of 'view' toward the perspective of the southern states, could be construed as somehow lending credibility to that, as you state, incorrect perspective.

It still seems to me that the root cause, if you will, is centered around slavery, with the southern states trying to keep it. Whether they believe they had economic reasons to keep it is only tangentially related. I'm sure all the Kings and Nobles didn't want their peasants to be free either.

If you look at agribusiness today, you still see the same economic issue. They feel the need to employ illegals at sub-minimum wage in below standard working conditions to compete on price. They have teamed up with the repugnants to create this false sense of invasion to keep their workers terrified to report the numerous labor law violations, if they are even aware they are violations. In effect they have their slaves again, except they aren't actually owned property. As long as conditions in their home countries are far worse this will continue to exist, and by supporting banana dictators the USA supplies a ready source of workers to agribusiness.

Of course this is becoming worse due to the USA's 35% corporate tax rate, so these agribusiness now offshore by simply doing their farming in the banana republics at even lower wages and worse working conditions and exporting the produce to the USA forcing USA agribusiness into even worse conditions to stay competitive.

Far too few people understand how all these systems interact.

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Far too few people understand how all these systems interact.

Oh, We Understand. Yes We Do.

We Don't Care.

What, We All Stop Eating? Boycott? Protest? Care? ROTFLMAO.

Let The Lessers Do What They Need to Do.

If they Think they are Less, and Need More. Get 'it'.

'Cause My Fat Ass Ain't Gunna Do A Thing to Help Them.

It's Us or Them.

Can NEVER be We. The World United For Fairness?

Give Me A Frakkin' Break.

Yep.

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If the American civil war was not about slavery, what was the purpose of the Reynolds's political map of the United States 1856 - Library of Congress published.

It shows the comparative area of the free and slave states and the territory open to slavery or freedom by the repeal of the Missouri Compromise.

If the American civil war was not about slavery, what was the purpose of the Reynolds's political map of the United States 1856 - Library of Congress published.

It shows the comparative area of the free and slave states and the territory open to slavery or freedom by the repeal of the Missouri Compromise.

As throughout History: Relativity short periods of time (IE: 1856 -1861), sometimes changes Everything.

The South attempted a Successful Succession, because the Abolitionists were gaining power within The Federal Government.

The South's Slavery, and therefore Economy, supported by The British Mercantile Class, may be in danger.

The North's reason (Initially) for fighting was varied, and conflicting. Very few were willing to die, to free African Slaves.

This changed, for The North, on a hot summer afternoon, in 1863.

A samll twon in PA. Called Gettysburg.

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Library of Congress is a great place for info.

See The Same Black Person TOOK AWAY The Moment for A Second Time, from A White Person, at The Yearly Music Awards Show dat starts with a G.

Blacks are SO SERIOUS 'bout R E S P E C T.

I, R E S P E C T F U L L Y, R O T F L M F A O at This Person and Blacks Supporting this person.

Yeah, Art. All 'bout Art, eh?

do re mi fa so la ti do Now, Syncopate 'it'.

Blacks are Syncopatists. In The Worse Way.

Yep.

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When one's leaders are racist, just what chance has the population have?

The baby that divided a nation

This has some applicability to Racism, especially for those convinced that only the WASP is racist to the black in America.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0208-quinones-parks-gangs-20150208-story.html#page=1

This shift is important beyond providing access to more outdoor space. Parks were part of the primordial soup from which gangs emerged here. Parks were open areas where members could be the occupying force that police could not. Several gangs took their names from nearby parks. Establishing a presence in them added to a gang's reputation. Because members were out in the open, some parks became crime magnets — places where shootings happened and long-running feuds could erupt.

In the 1990s, when the Mexican Mafia prison gang imposed a truce between feuding Latino gangs and instituted a system in which gang members “taxed” local drug dealers, the meetings happened in parks in Chino, San Bernardino, Santa Ana, South El Monte, Pacoima and Echo Park, to name a few.

After that, Latino gangs undertook a kind of ethnic cleansing in many of the surrounding neighborhoods, attempting to rid their areas of black people, whether they were affiliated with a gang or not. That terror was often spread at parks. Pacoima's Humphrey Boyz gang made the Hubert Humphrey Memorial Recreation Center — Humphrey Park, as it's known — off-limits to blacks for several years, according to residents and members of that gang I have interviewed. In Montecito Park, just across the 110 from Sycamore Grove, Avenues gang members staged assaults against black Highland Park residents; federal prosecutors convicted four of them of violating hate crime laws in 2006.

This harkens to the days when the KKK held total sway over the south and lynching was a frequent occurrence.

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This harkens to the days when the KKK held total sway over the south and lynching was a frequent occurrence.

<edit>I'm going to revise this. It is worse than the glory days of the KKK. The KKK generally only targeted "uppity" blacks or the random unlucky individual. The Avenues systematically targeted all blacks, more similar to the Armenian Genocide, but obviously on a smaller, neighborhood, scale.

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Not a clip but I suspect near and dear to ES99 ...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/398709/new-high-school-physics-curriculum-includes-lessons-white-privilege-katherine-timpf

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http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/2/black-consumers-can-hold-corporations-accountable.html

Many of the largest U.S. corporations rely heavily on black consumers, and they know that we can vote with our dollars. In turn, these companies want to build a positive perception of their brands among black people and avoid associating themselves with things that offend and harm us.

So black consumers have a lot of power to demand accountability when corporate funding enables inflammatory rhetoric that threatens our safety or laws that threaten our rights. This dynamic fueled two of the most successful campaigns of ColorOfChange, the nonprofit I direct that seeks to strengthen black Americans’ political voice.

In 2009, Glenn Beck, the media personality who used to have a show on Fox News, called President Barack Obama a “racist” who “has a deep-seated hatred for white people.” It was only the latest in a stream of race-baiting statements that Beck has unleashed during his daily TV show.

We have long campaigned against race-baiting commentary at Fox News — but Beck’s rhetoric represented a new low for the network in inflammatory and dangerous rhetoric. We were especially concerned about the way Beck was using his platform to stoke racial tension and animosity. When Beck accused the president of hating white people, we recognized that the statement could be turned against him. It encapsulated the extremity of Beck’s race baiting in a short, understandable sound bite that would likely make advertisers very uncomfortable.

We asked our members to sign a petition calling for Beck’s advertisers to stop supporting his show. At the same time, our staff reached out to the leadership of these corporations to begin a private dialogue.

We explained what Beck had said and demonstrated how it was part of a larger pattern. We made sure they knew what their advertising dollars were supporting. We told them that more than a hundred thousand people were calling on them to stop supporting Beck — and that our members were prepared to hold companies accountable that refused to act. We helped them understand what it would look like for their brand to be associated with Beck’s race baiting. Finally, we gave them a chance to act before naming them publicly.

A week into our campaign, three major advertisers left Beck’s show. Over the coming months, the number snowballed. AT&T, Walmart, CVS, Procter & Gamble and other big companies continued to abandon Beck’s show until he was left with no mainstream advertisers. His commercial breaks were now filled by obscure companies selling gold coins and exercise machines.

Eventually, more than 300 companies left Beck’s show — and Beck left Fox News.

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Well , well the American show there true colours .

While watching the new in the last couple of days there was a story on it that show Americans for what you really are a bunch of Racist pigs ,


The racist sler against Aboriginals on 2 broke Girls , the t.v sitcom was extremely offensive to all Australians and to Aboriginals .

Australians what you yank to apologise for this .


I won't hold my breath from a bunch of traitors and racists that you are

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Well , well the American show there true colours .

While watching the new in the last couple of days there was a story on it that show Americans for what you really are a bunch of Racist pigs ,


The racist sler against Aboriginals on 2 broke Girls , the t.v sitcom was extremely offensive to all Australians and to Aboriginals .

Australians what you yank to apologise for this .


I won't hold my breath from a bunch of traitors and racists that you are

Never seen 2 Broke Girls, but I don't watch sitcoms, which are more properly referred to as sh*tcoms either.

From what I gather it is a hick remake of Alice with some Archie Bunker thrown in. Write CBS and bitch up a storm. But don't forget to pitch a bitch to your local importer.

CBS and the writers have some apologizing to do, but Americans?

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Gary I will talk your comment as a apology . Thank you

I am very peed of because I have been accused of being a racist because of the trouble I had with my nabour whom I tried to help in many way for over 18 months before I said enough is enough she is black trailer trash . she happened to of been Koori(aborignal)
I am not a racist to for you Americans to come out and call me a racist when you make comment like what was said on 2 broke girls has realy peed me off as well as the crypto thing aka me calling Americans traitors .

just so you all understand even thou this is the rong thread I will explain why I'm peed of about crypto curries (namecoins)

1941 German U boats sank 1600 supply ships and almost broke England at the time they had only 3 more months to stop the U boats sinking the supply ships .
With a bit of luck and a very clever rues the Brits got a hold of the Enigma code machine the Germans where using and was able to stop the U boats as they knew where they where . Releasing crypto is one off the biggest mistakes you guys have done . so stop thinking we live in a Utopian world and stop the b/s about freedom as it's only a illusion your attitudes are fine in a Utopian world but not in these times . I just hope it doesn't cause a big problem
after all if the brits did not get the Enigma machine they would have lost the war

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Never seen 2 Broke Girls...

I watched it once. It made me cringe and it was pretty sexist.

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Never seen 2 Broke Girls...

I watched it once. It made me cringe and it was pretty sexist.

I agree. Ive watched it twice.
I cant for the life of me figure out why it is even being aired. It's not funny,It's demeaning to women and men.
Mainstream comedy nowdays? If thats the case Im glad I watch science and history shows.

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Gary I will talk your comment as a apology . Thank you

I am very peed of because I have been accused of being a racist because of the trouble I had with my nabour whom I tried to help in many way for over 18 months before I said enough is enough she is black trailer trash . she happened to of been Koori(aborignal)
I am not a racist to for you Americans to come out and call me a racist when you make comment like what was said on 2 broke girls has realy peed me off as well as the crypto thing aka me calling Americans traitors .

just so you all understand even thou this is the rong thread I will explain why I'm peed of about crypto curries (namecoins)

1941 German U boats sank 1600 supply ships and almost broke England at the time they had only 3 more months to stop the U boats sinking the supply ships .
With a bit of luck and a very clever rues the Brits got a hold of the Enigma code machine the Germans where using and was able to stop the U boats as they knew where they where . Releasing crypto is one off the biggest mistakes you guys have done . so stop thinking we live in a Utopian world and stop the b/s about freedom as it's only a illusion your attitudes are fine in a Utopian world but not in these times . I just hope it doesn't cause a big problem
after all if the brits did not get the Enigma machine they would have lost the war

Glenn,
I am sorry you got offended by some stupid, dumba$$ TV show. I am sorry that TV nowadays is of such poor quality. *I* get offended by the drivel that is shown on TV over the last decade or two, and it is not easy to offend me.

I have NEVER seen an episode of the show you are ranting about, but from what I can find out about it you have every right to do so. As others have said, write to the makers of the show, and to the people that show it where you live and express your doubtlessly justified outrage. Boycott them. Organize.

I don't even have a TV set up in my house. It is too... Evil. I do NOT want to expose my children to the CRAP that is TV.

Now, as to your 'crypto' rant... Don't be so quick to poo-poo and dismiss Freedom. After all, you have the Freedom now to be offended by things and to publicly say so.

Freedom is an illusion? Hardly... But I will grant you that it is beginning to become an endangered species, it seems.

Since Glenn has Been Demonized as A Race Baiter, then Glenn and Al Together can be The 'Go Two Guys' for PitifulPeacePrizin'DroneHitManKingOfRaceBaitin'HawaiianHustlin'Hussein's PrezDenseCy and Admin.

They Can Be The Three Amigos of Race Baitin'. What A Team!

With AG Backin' 'em All The Way, WOWSA!

Who Needs TV, with This Show.

Future 'is' Bright.

Yep.

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already posted this on the hospital thread, but it deservedly needs to be mentioned here as well...

MP for Bosworth says people who oppose astrology were 'racist'

...Astrology a race?

Tomorrow's zodiac:

Aquarius; Stay in bed, much safer
Pisces: Not bad, how about thinking up some more "crazy" comments?
Aries: Stay in bed...
Taurus: Stay in bed...
Gemini: stay in bed...
Cancer: Stay in bed...
Leo: Stay in bed...
Virgo: Stay in bed...
Libra: Stay in bed...
Scorpio: Stay in bed...
Sagittarius : Stay in bed...
Capricorn: Stay in bed...