I am starting to wonder if you have reading problems.

No reading or comprehension issues here.

I now understand that you feel that Mark Berndt is equal to Jaime Escalante.

Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

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Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

I use baseball but it can be any physical property. If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

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If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

They do. Just not in the very backwards USA!

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If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

They do. Just not in the very backwards USA!

That is the only country that is the topic in 99 and 44/100% of the post.

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If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

They do. Just not in the very backwards USA!

That is the only country that is the topic in 99 and 44/100% of the post.

And how does that refute the validity of Gary's post. Part of the problem we face as a country is that many people seem to think that we are the center of the universe.

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If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

Batterup :) I see what you're doing there... It's right-wing mythical arguments of "biological inferiority" from within the U.S. military that stands in the way of your much lamented {?? :)} female draft - and the embarrassing statistic that one in three female American soldiers experience some form of sexual harassment, and when on active combat, are far more likely to be raped by their fellow soldiers than be killed by enemy fire. Time to catch up with the rest of the world perhaps? :)

If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

They do. Just not in the very backwards USA!

That is the only country that is the topic in 99 and 44/100% of the post.

And how does that refute the validity of Gary's post. Part of the problem we face as a country is that many people seem to think that we are the center of the universe.

Actually that is there problem as most of US don't even know they exist. They all want to be city states; how relevant can they be. I give Putin credit, most of US know and care about what he does. He definitely doesn't care what the city states think ether.

If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

Batterup :) I see what you're doing there... It's right-wing mythical arguments of "biological inferiority"

Not inferiority but differences. Batter Up is not alone in this as the so called Equal Rights Amendment to our constitution did not pass. I wish it did, then men would have equal treatment under the law. No more having twice as many women only toilets at sporting events. Not only is that separate but totally unequal.

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I am starting to wonder if you have reading problems.

No reading or comprehension issues here.

I now understand that you feel that Mark Berndt is equal to Jaime Escalante.

Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

Is it men you likening to paedophiles, or women? I am not clear on the point you are trying to make here.

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Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

I use baseball but it can be any physical property. If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

I didn't respond to this point the first time you made it because I thought you were still talking about baseball.

...are you talking about baseball?

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I am starting to wonder if you have reading problems.

No reading or comprehension issues here.

I now understand that you feel that Mark Berndt is equal to Jaime Escalante.

Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

Is it men you likening to paedophiles, or women? I am not clear on the point you are trying to make here.

The point is: "Do you think all human beings are equal?" Are Mark Berndt and Jamie Escalante equal?

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I am starting to wonder if you have reading problems.

No reading or comprehension issues here.

I now understand that you feel that Mark Berndt is equal to Jaime Escalante.

Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

Is it men you likening to paedophiles, or women? I am not clear on the point you are trying to make here.

The point is: "Do you think all human beings are equal?" Are Mark Berndt and Jamie Escalante equal?

Doesn't your constitution?

They both have rights, they also both have responsibilities. They are judged by their actions, not by what they are when they are born. Again, this is a false equivalence.

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If humans were truly equal women would have to register for the draft.

They do. Just not in the very backwards USA!
That is the only country that is the topic in 99 and 44/100% of the post.

And how does that refute the validity of Gary's post. Part of the problem we face as a country is that many people seem to think that we are the center of the universe.
Actually that is there problem as most of US don't even know they exist.
They all want to be city states; how relevant can they be. I give Putin credit, most of US know and care about what he does. He definitely doesn't care what the city states think ether.

Batter your responce does not address my point.

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anniet said:

American soldiers experience some form of sexual harassment

Why Yes, I did. The Hunka burnin' Love was persistent and I finally relented. Did I report 'it'. NO WAY!

But dat was many many many many Decades ago, When Men were Men and Did Not Tell.

Oh Da Shame I Felt and Feel.

Got Draft? Beer? Horse? heeeheeeheee. Well, he were'nt No Horse thankeee kindleee. again heeeheeeheee

Just An Ordinary Chap from Santa Rosa.

Memories, like da something something something. lalalala laaaaaaaaaaaa laaaaaaaaaaaa laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa laaaa laaaa

THE WAY WE WERRRRRRRRRrrrrre.

Sweetness

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

anniet said:

American soldiers experience some form of sexual harassment

Why Yes, I did. The Hunka burnin' Love was persistent and I finally relented. Did I report 'it'. NO WAY!

But dat was many many many many Decades ago, When Men were Men and Did Not Tell.

Oh Da Shame I Felt and Feel.

Got Draft? Beer? Horse? heeeheeeheee. Well, he were'nt No Horse thankeee kindleee. again heeeheeeheee

Just An Ordinary Chap from Santa Rosa.

Memories, like da something something something. lalalala laaaaaaaaaaaa laaaaaaaaaaaa laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa laaaa laaaa

THE WAY WE WERRRRRRRRRrrrrre.

Sweetness

I think you should go to the police if what you are saying is true. :/

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anniet said:

American soldiers experience some form of sexual harassment

Why Yes, I did. The Hunka burnin' Love was persistent and I finally relented. Did I report 'it'. NO WAY!

But dat was many many many many Decades ago, When Men were Men and Did Not Tell.

Oh Da Shame I Felt and Feel.

Got Draft? Beer? Horse? heeeheeeheee. Well, he were'nt No Horse thankeee kindleee. again heeeheeeheee

Just An Ordinary Chap from Santa Rosa.

Memories, like da something something something. lalalala laaaaaaaaaaaa laaaaaaaaaaaa laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa laaaa laaaa

THE WAY WE WERRRRRRRRRrrrrre.

Sweetness

I think you should go to the police if what you are saying is true. :/

+ 1 :(

Yes, I'm sorry I didn't include the statistics relating the sexual abuse of men :( they weren't pertinent to my reply to Batterup.

es99 said:

I think you should go to the police if what you are saying is true. :/

Maybe The VC got 'im.

Anyways, wat you said: Dat Be REAL FUNNY.

REAL MEN don't RUIN Other Men's Lives.

Also, Maybe I Liked 'it'. The Other Sex wasn't Offerin', so, Youse Gets wats Offered.

Sweetness.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

es99 said:

I think you should go to the police if what you are saying is true. :/

Maybe The VC got 'im.

Anyways, wat you said: Dat Be REAL FUNNY.

REAL MEN don't RUIN Other Men's Lives.

Also, Maybe I Liked 'it'. The Other Sex wasn't Offerin', so, Youse Gets wats Offered.

Sweetness.

It was your comment about being ashamed that made me think it was not consensual.

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I am starting to wonder if you have reading problems.

No reading or comprehension issues here.

I now understand that you feel that Mark Berndt is equal to Jaime Escalante.

Personally I don't think baseball players are worth squat, but you can continue to ass-u-me.

Is it men you likening to paedophiles, or women? I am not clear on the point you are trying to make here.

The point is: "Do you think all human beings are equal?" Are Mark Berndt and Jamie Escalante equal?

Doesn't your constitution?

Actually no. It is technical. Ignoring the technicalities AFIK both are/were citizens, so yes.

They both have rights, they also both have responsibilities. They are judged by their actions, not by what they are when they are born. Again, this is a false equivalence.

Obviously you don't mean the mathematical identity for equivalence. If it is a false equivalence, then you are going to need to specify what things are to be considered and what this are to be ignored when someone says "Do you think all human beings are equal?"

23 chromosome pairs?
two arms and two legs?
Hair color?

The statement is really an identity. You can't be human unless you already are human.

I do know that a strict reading of the words is not the intended meaning.

A dictionary
equal: (of people) having the same status, rights, or opportunities.

However I don't agree with that. It ignores talent and skills with the effect of time. The measure as written may work at birth. But once talent and skill are applied over time, status and opportunities are no longer the same. Rights should not change and that part I agree with.
<ed>I just noted the word "or" not "and" Even more interesting.

You might wish to read Animal Farm.

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Obviously you don't mean the mathematical identity for equivalence.

Really Gary? Are you clutching at straws here to be right about something?

If it is a false equivalence, then you are going to need to specify what things are to be considered and what this are to be ignored when someone says "Do you think all human beings are equal?"

23 chromosome pairs?
two arms and two legs?
Hair color?

The statement is really an identity. You can't be human unless you already are human.

I think the key piece you are missing here, and really missing, is how woman have been and still are being treated as less than human.

I do know that a strict reading of the words is not the intended meaning.

A dictionary
equal: (of people) having the same status, rights, or opportunities.

This seems good.

However I don't agree with that. It ignores talent and skills with the effect of time. The measure as written may work at birth. But once talent and skill are applied over time, status and opportunities are no longer the same.

Wow Gary. You really are hung up on status.

Rights should not change and that part I agree with.

Considering that was the context of the discussion, I am glad to hear that.

You might wish to read Animal Farm.

ffs.

Can you hear yourself sometimes? Classic bit of mansplaining there, Gary.

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I think the key piece you are missing here, and really missing, is how woman have been and still are being treated as less than human.

Ah, agenda, reason to insist on a result, even when the present discussion is about two males.

Wow Gary. You really are hung up on status.

No. You are. I don't particularly like the fawning over celebrities that society seems to enjoy. But I do know it occurs. As I've said elsewhere I don't herd well.

OBW if you think status is only $$$ or skin color or or X or Y chromosome or some other thing, then that is your personal prejudice showing. Status is what you make it. Another thought is does status exist without "entitlement mentality?" Best be careful with that one.

You might wish to read Animal Farm.

ffs.

Animal farm is your utopia, even if you refuse to see it.

BTW never did I indicate, nor do I believe that women are not being treated as subhuman on this planet. However you need to be far less dense and realize someone may challenge your stated or unstated assumptions and preconditions about a position you have without disagreeing with you on that position.

Something you may not have seen http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/29/slut-shaming-study.html

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