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Message 1542081 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 15:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 1542044.  

You need not look any further then Al Gore to find the lie about climate change/global warming.

Did "The Great Soul" preach non-violence and take up the firearm?


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I'm a wealthy man myself, however I work. I have nothing against being wealthy. It is the wealthy man who puts another to work so he/she can bring home the bacon. There is no doubt I am a Constitutionalist and Capitalist.

Indeed there are plenty of idiots who want to rebuild the Temple Mount in Israel, yada, yada, yada... I'm not one of them.

The Bible is once again very clear about this, best off worry about your own personal end then the end of the world.
Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...
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Message 1542116 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 15:45:50 UTC
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Climate change: How do we know?

The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives. The current warming trend is of particular significance because it is human-induced and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented in the past 1,300 years Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. Studying these climate data collected over many years reveal the signals of a changing climate.



This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples
contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements,
provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased
since the Industrial Revolution.
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Message 1542121 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 15:56:14 UTC
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NASA Climatologist Gavin Schmidt Discusses the Surface Temperature Record

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis

GISS Annual Temperature Summation for 2008 and NASA News Release



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Except for a leveling off between the 1940s and 1970s, Earth's surface temperatures have increased since 1880. The last decade has brought the temperatures to the highest levels ever recorded. The graph shows global annual surface temperatures relative to 1951-1980 mean temperatures. As shown by the red line, long-term trends are more apparent when temperatures are averaged over a five year period. (Image credit: NASA/GISS)



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As seen by the blue point farthest to the right on this graph, 2009 was the warmest year on record in the Southern Hemisphere. credit: NASA / GISS)
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Message 1542334 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 0:25:18 UTC

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Thorium has 1 realy big problem most of the good quality Thorium is in rear earths which is being held by CHINA and they have no plans to allow anybody else to use it .
Also the Thorium that everybody else can get there hands on is not good enough to use as it pushes the cost up so much it's not fesible to use so unless CHINA changes it view Thorium for the rest of the world is a no goer

And it's still not as safe as ppl think shore safer than normal Uranium Reactors but still not safe
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Message 1542340 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 0:43:57 UTC - in response to Message 1542334.  

FYI

Thorium has 1 realy big problem most of the good quality Thorium is in rear earths which is being held by CHINA and they have no plans to allow anybody else to use it .
Also the Thorium that everybody else can get there hands on is not good enough to use as it pushes the cost up so much it's not fesible to use so unless CHINA changes it view Thorium for the rest of the world is a no goer

And it's still not as safe as ppl think shore safer than normal Uranium Reactors but still not safe



the existing stockpiles of atomic waste would power hundreds of reactors for 1000s of years
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Message 1542344 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 1:11:51 UTC - in response to Message 1542340.  

As I said the stockpiles your talking about make it more expensive to get the Thorium out and is prohibitive because of the cost you need the stuff in the rear earths to make it possible and cost effective

Plus we don't freaking need it we can get all the power from the sun and wind and ocean

19tve falls on Earth each day we use about 3tve world wide or something plenty of extra energy there if we want it and that's not what can be used from wind or ocean
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Message 1542348 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 1:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 1542344.  

As I said the stockpiles your talking about make it more expensive to get the Thorium out and is prohibitive because of the cost you need the stuff in the rear earths to make it possible and cost effective

Plus we don't freaking need it we can get all the power from the sun and wind and ocean

19tve falls on Earth each day we use about 3tve world wide or something plenty of extra energy there if we want it and that's not what can be used from wind or ocean

Except, of course, some of those same rare earths are needed to make the stuff used in those green energy sources. Like making the very strong magnets needed to make the wind turbines efficient enough to be usable.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/a_scarcity_of_rare_metals_is_hindering_green_technologies/2711/
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Message 1542349 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 1:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 1542348.  
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Winternight what was the point of the post . The Thorium is a by product of rear Earth's we may need the rear Earths but we don't need the Thorium so what is your point ?

there also used in touch phones & Ipad's so again what was your point
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Message 1542384 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 2:57:46 UTC - in response to Message 1542344.  

not only do you not need to get the other radioactive out of a thorium cycle reaction it can eat the hard to break down one's as well.
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Message 1542929 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 4:25:09 UTC
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I'm sorry, but, is 'rear Earth's' a butt joke?
The super rich just don't care, no matter how much the 'tree hugger's' complain nothing will be done until the very few people actually running the show give a damn.
I guess it's probably easier to blame the subsistence farmers around the world for decimating the rainforest and preventing CO2 capture plus McDonald's for using South American beef (more rain forest clearing plus more methane production from cow farts)
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Message 1542966 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 5:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 1542929.  

I'm sorry, but, is 'rear Earth's' a butt joke?


no I just can't spell

it's called dyslexia I read one thing but see something else unless I realy look hard a re read it 3 times before bingo that's not right so expect my grammer and spelling to be wrong even after I proof check it it may still be wrong

I'm also harf blind dam it nearly failed the driving eye sight test 2 months ago so sorry everyone
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Message 1542973 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 6:07:21 UTC - in response to Message 1542966.  

things happen it's the draen bramage.
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Message 1542978 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 6:31:25 UTC - in response to Message 1542973.  

things happen it's the draen bramage


cheeky bugger you
all though the green stuff might not have helped I gotta stop I'm 50 and the flower power years are gone
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Message 1542980 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 6:35:10 UTC - in response to Message 1542978.  
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things happen it's the draen bramage


cheeky bugger you
all though the green stuff might not have helped I gotta stop I'm 50 and the flower power years are gone

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Funny I'm 54 temporarily bed ridden dyslexic and just staring where do you think

I got drain bramage?
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Message 1542982 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 6:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 1542980.  

Funny I'm 54 temporarily bed ridden dyslexic and just staring where do you think

I got drain bramage?


oh no I better throw that bong away or i'll end up just like you staring into space

na stuff it gotta go out 1 way or the other better be a vegie and I won't know the difference when the nurse comes to wipe me bum and feed me , at least i'll get a better quality of drug oh yeh bring it on
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Message 1543044 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 11:15:21 UTC - in response to Message 1542929.  
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... The super rich just don't care, no matter how much the 'tree hugger's' complain nothing will be done until the very few people actually running the show give a damn. ...

And that is a big problem.

Which is where we need enough 'tree huggers' to shout loudly enough to persuade or to scare the aloof 'super rich' to care enough to save the planet for everyone else...


Is that why we have revolutions?...

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Message 1543129 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 15:23:53 UTC

Which is where we need enough 'tree huggers' to shout loudly enough to persuade or to scare the aloof 'super rich' to care enough to save the planet for everyone else...


+100! The problem is the rich aren't scared of the poor and they think money is the solution to all problems:(
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Message 1543399 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 20:42:03 UTC - in response to Message 1543129.  
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Which is where we need enough 'tree huggers' to shout loudly enough to persuade or to scare the aloof 'super rich' to care enough to save the planet for everyone else...


+100!


+200!

The problem is the rich aren't scared of the poor and they think money is the solution to all problems:(


They're getting a teensy bit scared of the poor - and are using their money in an attempt to solve it... hence their luxury gated communities (resembling fortresses) staffed by armed private security guards... (with panic buttons straight to the police - who ACTUALLY turn up within minutes if someone even so much as loiters outside or is an architecture student taking a photograph of the building).

Poor things. They did get so upset too when our life expectancy shot up after they were no longer allowed to fit bullbars to the front of their fuel guzzling offroad landrovers (thank you EU :)) and had to pull out of their enclaves into London's east end traffic and risk denting themselves on us local riff raff.
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Message 1543404 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 20:47:58 UTC

I Like The Richie Riches. The Best Craftsman in The World are due to Work Done for The Moneyed Ones. Craftsman are Tresures.

Poor, Not so much.

Again, I Deny Climate Change as 'Expressed' by The 97 Percent.

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Message 1543627 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014, 2:00:59 UTC - in response to Message 1543404.  

Again, I Deny Climate Change as 'Expressed' by The 97 Percent


Richie Rich don't give a dam about anybody other than Richie Rich and so the 97% don't you mean the 3%

your getting old mate your math is slipping :)
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