So now Obama has negated a 200 year policy of not negotiating with terrorists

Message boards : Politics : So now Obama has negated a 200 year policy of not negotiating with terrorists
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Bob DeWoody
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 May 10
Posts: 3387
Credit: 4,182,900
RAC: 10
United States
Message 1524690 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 7:13:17 UTC

I think this was a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.............for now.
Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.
ID: 1524690 · Report as offensive
Мишель
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 13
Posts: 3073
Credit: 87,868
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1524708 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 9:29:52 UTC

As the senator said in that Rachel Maddow show video, if Obama had not gone in to save this soldier, and he would have died in captivity, the Republicans would have gone after him saying that its wrong to leave anyone behind in the field and that he should have made this deal.

Ah Rachel Maddow, along with Colbert and Steward she does an excellent job debunking all that right wing nonsense.
ID: 1524708 · Report as offensive
Profile Cliff Harding
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Aug 99
Posts: 1432
Credit: 110,967,840
RAC: 67
United States
Message 1524740 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 12:39:11 UTC - in response to Message 1524708.  
Last modified: 5 Jun 2014, 12:41:57 UTC

As the senator said in that Rachel Maddow show video, if Obama had not gone in to save this soldier, and he would have died in captivity, the Republicans would have gone after him saying that its wrong to leave anyone behind in the field and that he should have made this deal.

Ah Rachel Maddow, along with Colbert and Steward she does an excellent job debunking all that right wing nonsense.


+1

I was watching Rachel and All In w/Chris Matthews last night and a segment on both programs dealt with how the conservatives (Tea Party/Republicans), for the last couple of years, all begged President Obama to bring Sgt. Bergdahl home. There even was a segment, I believe it was on Rachel's show, where John McCain, a decorated POW himself who I have lost all respect for since he first ran for president, suggested that President Obama trade some of the Taliban held at Gitmo for him. As soon as the president did exactly what McCain suggested, McCain and the rest of the Tea party/Republicans pounced on him like a pack of rabid wolves. Chris Matthews, as part his show even had a segment from Oliver North on Faux News, you know the guy from Iran-Contra, pounce of the president for doing this. Did anyone take a look at http://www.huffingtonpost.com last night or this morning and see the headlines? And there are people here, I won't name names you know who you are, who still think I'm on the wrong side of things here.

Can you imagine the uproar if the president did not do anything to bring Bergdahl home and he had died? The fake outrage would have been like a Tsunami.


I don't buy computers, I build them!!
ID: 1524740 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1524777 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 16:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 1524612.  

I'm having a lot of fun 'tweaking' the nose's of non-American's.

I call that trolling which you have been getting better at the last few months.
ID: 1524777 · Report as offensive
Profile Es99
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 Aug 05
Posts: 10874
Credit: 350,402
RAC: 0
Canada
Message 1524785 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 16:52:14 UTC - in response to Message 1524777.  

I'm having a lot of fun 'tweaking' the nose's of non-American's.

I call that trolling which you have been getting better at the last few months.

He really can't understand the fact that you are an American.
Reality Internet Personality
ID: 1524785 · Report as offensive
Profile betreger Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Jun 99
Posts: 11361
Credit: 29,581,041
RAC: 66
United States
Message 1524787 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 17:02:45 UTC - in response to Message 1524785.  

Being unencumbered by facts makes it very easy to post any nonsense that comes to mind.
ID: 1524787 · Report as offensive
Batter Up
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,860,347
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524791 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 17:30:18 UTC - in response to Message 1524708.  

Nobody knew, nobody cared about the Private until it became a political football. The shame is dragging veterans through your petty political squabbles.
ID: 1524791 · Report as offensive
Profile MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 02
Posts: 6895
Credit: 6,588,977
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524798 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 17:59:03 UTC

Deserter Traitor

Brig.

Enjoy Cry Baby Talibaner Wannabe

Crunchin' Troll Wannabe

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
ID: 1524798 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24879
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1524799 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 18:03:30 UTC

Who says he is a deserter? He hasn't had a court martial yet to determine that!

Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"...

...Oh I forgot, this is the US after all!
ID: 1524799 · Report as offensive
Profile MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 02
Posts: 6895
Credit: 6,588,977
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524805 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 18:27:04 UTC

It has Now Been Reported: The Deserter WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED 'if' US Leaked the News of The Deal/Swap/Trade/Release. So, The Need for Instant Decision by OBlabbster and Crew.

Confirmation of TOTALLY POLITICAL Decision for Deal/Trade/Swap/Release.

The FAKE OUTRAGE by The Right if The Deserter Had Been KILLED.

Crunchin' Troll Wannabe

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
ID: 1524805 · Report as offensive
Batter Up
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,860,347
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524816 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 19:09:09 UTC

ID: 1524816 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24879
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1524818 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 19:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 1524816.  

He became disillusioned and tip toed through the tulips to bring peace to the world.


They liked that so much, they promoted him twice :-)
ID: 1524818 · Report as offensive
Profile MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 02
Posts: 6895
Credit: 6,588,977
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524835 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 20:02:18 UTC

If the military stalls on turning over files to Congress pertaining to the five years of Bergdahl's absence, we will at least know that there is no national institution remaining to be corrupted.” - George Will

Go Blabby Go. You Makeee so Easy fO The Demise of DEM/Libbery

Crunchin' Troll Wannabe

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
ID: 1524835 · Report as offensive
Profile MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 02
Posts: 6895
Credit: 6,588,977
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524882 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:36:19 UTC

“The American people understand that this is somebody’s child, and that we don’t condition whether or not we make that effort to try to get them back,”
-DroneHitMan aka HustlinHussein dA PitifulPeacePrizin'POtus

5 Years. We Leave 'em There There FIVE YEARS so dey can Grow Into Adulthood.
and Cry Like Babies when 'Rescued', cause dey have to come back to Hated Amerika.

The U.S. has “basic principle — we do not leave anyone wearing the American uniform behind,” - ThrowDEMunderDaBusBarry aka HollywoodHypester

What Uniform? The Uniform He Deserted in? Yeah, The Deserter is dressed in Talibanner Garb and Lovin' 'it'.

Sweetness

Da Crunchin' Troll Wannabe

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
ID: 1524882 · Report as offensive
Batter Up
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,860,347
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524892 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 22:05:16 UTC

He didn't desert as he had every intention of coming back. He didn't leave until after his guard duty and even asked about taking his rifle off base and was told not a good idea. So off he went without his weapon to bring peace to the world. He was a home schooled religious loner, who volunteered for front line infantry duty.

...Bowe approached his team leader not long after he got off guard duty and asked his superior a simple question: If I were to leave the base, would it cause problems if I took my sensitive equipment?

Yes, his team leader responded – if you took your rifle and night-vision goggles, that would cause problems.

ID: 1524892 · Report as offensive
Profile MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 02
Posts: 6895
Credit: 6,588,977
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1524897 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 22:18:56 UTC

"Every day there, he was closer to dying" - Hairy Reed

No Shat Sherlock. EveryOne OVER THERE THERE, in HARMS Way, Every Day, Every Hour, Every Second, is CLOSER TO DYING.

So, Let's give The Deserter a Free Ride to Germany. Get Super Quality Physical and Mental Health Care, then send Him Home so He can live in The Amerika He Hates with His Talibanner Daddy.

They can both have beards and be Stars on dat Duck Show wif Christian Phil, or start a ZZ Top Tribute Band.

Twang 'it'.

Got Beard?

Da Crunchin' Troll Wannabe

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
ID: 1524897 · Report as offensive
Мишель
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 13
Posts: 3073
Credit: 87,868
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1525160 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 11:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 1524892.  

He didn't desert as he had every intention of coming back. He didn't leave until after his guard duty and even asked about taking his rifle off base and was told not a good idea. So off he went without his weapon to bring peace to the world. He was a home schooled religious loner, who volunteered for front line infantry duty.

...Bowe approached his team leader not long after he got off guard duty and asked his superior a simple question: If I were to leave the base, would it cause problems if I took my sensitive equipment?

Yes, his team leader responded – if you took your rifle and night-vision goggles, that would cause problems.

So the guy was a little stupid for going off base like that, even though it was technically not against any rules. Does that mean the US army should not have tried to rescue him? Well, if its a standing tradition and policy that no one gets left behind (which I find a very admirable policy) then it means you cannot set preconditions on who you save. No one gets left behind means no one gets left behind, it does not mean you can leave the people who made a stupid decision behind.
ID: 1525160 · Report as offensive
Batter Up
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 May 99
Posts: 1946
Credit: 24,860,347
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1525165 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 12:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 1525160.  
Last modified: 6 Jun 2014, 12:05:23 UTC

So the guy was a little stupid for going off base like that, even though it was technically not against any rules. Does that mean the US army should not have tried to rescue him?
He was AWOL, it has been reported he did this before but didn't get caught. Six men died trying to rescue him but they didn't deserve a thread on this supposed forum.

The "Rolling Stone" blamed this on war monger Obama's escalation of the war in 2009.
ID: 1525165 · Report as offensive
Мишель
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Nov 13
Posts: 3073
Credit: 87,868
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1525184 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 13:21:53 UTC

The six man died while trying to find him thing is just rightwing talk at the moment. Even so, say that the guy was captured during a normal patrol and six men died trying to find him then, what is the difference? 6 people died trying to save one men, tragic, but is that a reason to just let the guy rot and die?
ID: 1525184 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24879
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1525191 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 13:32:29 UTC - in response to Message 1525184.  
Last modified: 6 Jun 2014, 13:33:03 UTC

The six man died while trying to find him thing is just rightwing talk at the moment. Even so, say that the guy was captured during a normal patrol and six men died trying to find him then, what is the difference? 6 people died trying to save one men, tragic, but is that a reason to just let the guy rot and die?


So why didn't the EU step in when the Indian government stuck those guards from the ship they impounded in the Indian Ocean in prison without a trial?

After all, the majority of them were European.

The way I see it as that no matter what the Yanks do, they end up in a lose/lose situation.

They are not perfect & deserve knocking when it's due. Other than that, I would like to know why other nations & their citizens do that when their own histories are nothing to be proud of!
ID: 1525191 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · Next

Message boards : Politics : So now Obama has negated a 200 year policy of not negotiating with terrorists


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.