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Message 1519826 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 16:36:26 UTC

Actually understanding what I'm reading Dull:)

We have to learn from our elders and teachers but mostly we must learn from ourselves is what I think.
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Message 1519843 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 17:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 1519826.  

Actually understanding what I'm reading Dull:)

We have to learn from our elders and teachers but mostly we must learn from ourselves is what I think.

First we learn from our parents. When I heard Trayvon was wandering around not in school because of a second suspension it was beyond my comprehension. I missed the school bus once because I was slow getting to the stop. ONCE is the key word.

According to Proverbs 13:24 Trayvon's father hated him, so true.
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Message 1519859 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 17:18:26 UTC

First we learn from our parents.


Agreed 100% (from caring parents, that is)
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Message 1519940 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 19:32:13 UTC - in response to Message 1519859.  

First we learn from our parents.


Agreed 100% (from caring parents, that is)

You learn from not caring parents too. Just a different lesson.
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Message 1519941 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 19:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 1519843.  

Actually understanding what I'm reading Dull:)

We have to learn from our elders and teachers but mostly we must learn from ourselves is what I think.

First we learn from our parents. When I heard Trayvon was wandering around not in school because of a second suspension it was beyond my comprehension. I missed the school bus once because I was slow getting to the stop. ONCE is the key word.

According to Proverbs 13:24 Trayvon's father hated him, so true.

He didn't deserve to get shot though.
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Message 1519943 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 19:35:47 UTC - in response to Message 1519657.  
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Students need to Learn to Study and Study to Learn. Takes Time and Effort. 'It' 'is' Hard Work and Extremely Boring at times.

Are Teachers teaching this? Effort is time consuming and hard.

We are trying to, yes.

Or are Teachers using Some Kind of Happy Time Magic?

Some try that method (I assume you are not suggesting that the teacher's are taking drugs to get through the day). Some try to be authoritarian. Some try a mixture. I guess it depends what works at the time.

There There One Moment and Gone Gone the next.

Gindstoning and Mental Sweat Out of Fashion.

Good Luck DEM/Libs.

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We all need luck. Teachers are the ones that have to deal with all the ills of society in our classrooms. All the angry, let down kids take it out on us because we are the only ones that are there for some of them.
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Message 1519946 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 19:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 1519940.  
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First we learn from our parents.


Agreed 100% (from caring parents, that is)

You learn from not caring parents too. Just a different lesson.


I don't see that as learning, something to forget, that is... We don't 'learn' anything with it, anything constructive I'd say.
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Message 1520686 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 20:05:57 UTC

Forget about parents, teachers, politicians & their role within education. There is one thing that all need to be taught...

...how to be bloody human!
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Message 1520807 - Posted: 25 May 2014, 1:25:31 UTC - in response to Message 1520686.  

Forget about parents, teachers, politicians & their role within education. There is one thing that all need to be taught...

...how to be bloody human!

Its a directive from the government. They decided because there was a correlation between school attendance and achievement that they would punish parents who take children out of school. Its all very Daily Mail. "Bad parents take their kids out of school" etc..

I have massive objections to this policy both as a parent and a teacher. As a parent I think that a trip to Paris might be way more educational than two days in a classroom completing fill the gaps worksheets. I think there is a very narrow view on what is educational or not.

As a teacher I do not think that there is a cause and effect relationship between attendance and achievement. I think they are both symptoms of more fundamental problems with the child's life. When you force a child into class who does not want to be there for emotional or other reasons, all you are doing is putting a child in a room where they are almost guaranteed to destroy the learning environment of the students in the room who do want to be there. They should be putting the effort into helping the actual problems the child has rather than punishing parents who are already clearly having difficulties.

As a parent my son's school threatened to put me in prison because my son's attendance was not very good. Considering that he had suffered a horrible assault a few weeks before I was busy trying to make sure he didn't commit suicide. Attending school every day seemed less of a priority at the time. I gave them a piece of my mind and they did apologise, but in the end I just took him out of school and moved him to Canada where they have a more civilised attitude towards children.
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Message 1520892 - Posted: 25 May 2014, 8:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 1520686.  

Forget about parents, teachers, politicians & their role within education. There is one thing that all need to be taught...

...how to be bloody human!


Another case, Mum ends up in court after taking son on last holiday with his dying grandfather
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Message 1520916 - Posted: 25 May 2014, 11:52:39 UTC - in response to Message 1520892.  

WTH?

"Ms Randall was given a six-month conditional discharge and a £15 victim surcharge by Blackburn Magistrates Court."

She was the victim!

The way the bureaucratic B/S is going it seems that from 5 to 65 we're just tax fodder. Before and after they don't give a shyte.

It really is time for change & to take the country back from liars & thieves.
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Message 1522428 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 16:28:34 UTC

It really is time for change & to take the country back from liars & thieves.


The most powerful people in this world reached the top by doing just that. Good people can't get it over their heart and mostly stay poor and anonymous.
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Message 1522437 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 16:41:19 UTC

Here in BC we are fighting the battle that teachers in the UK lost a long time ago on class size and composition. If we lose this one then we will go down the route that UK schools went down that led to such difficulties with class behaviour and teacher morale.

We are striking this week and it looks like next week.

The BC government are living in the cloud cuckoo land where they believe that free markets will somehow provide a good education system for everyone.
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Message 1522463 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 17:31:08 UTC - in response to Message 1520916.  

WTH?

"Ms Randall was given a six-month conditional discharge and a £15 victim surcharge by Blackburn Magistrates Court."

She was the victim!

The way the bureaucratic B/S is going it seems that from 5 to 65 we're just tax fodder. Before and after they don't give a shyte.

It really is time for change & to take the country back from liars & thieves.


Stay voting UKIP I say.....the only hope we have!!
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Message 1522516 - Posted: 29 May 2014, 20:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 1522428.  

It really is time for change & to take the country back from liars & thieves.


The most powerful people in this world reached the top by doing just that. Good people can't get it over their heart and mostly stay poor and anonymous.


That I'm fully aware of. Makes one wonder though as to why! One can only sleep in one bed at a time, live in one house at a time, eat one meal at a time etc etc...

...at the end of the day, you can't take it with you when your number is up!

Personally I think all public sector high earners should have their salaries capped at a maximum of 5x the lowest annual salary of their employees.

Want to earn more, leave & join the private sector!
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Message 1522654 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 12:25:09 UTC

Wasn't sure where to put this, but i have to point it out.

Here's a photo of a One Direction fan burning her ticket in the wake of their recent drug scandal.

Anyone else spot the irony?



(Hint: tshirt!)
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Message 1522661 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 13:38:08 UTC

Here's a photo of a One Direction fan burning her ticket in the wake of their recent drug scandal.

Anyone else spot the irony?
(Hint: tshirt!)

Drugs are bad, look at what it did to these guys.

Before.


After.

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Message 1522710 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 16:56:23 UTC

They look better in the second pic imo, although the third pic, beneath the line, shows more friendly creatures:)
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Message 1522713 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 17:09:00 UTC - in response to Message 1522710.  

They look better in the second pic imo, ..

I have the same condition so there is hope?
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Message 1522714 - Posted: 30 May 2014, 17:11:06 UTC - in response to Message 1522713.  

They look better in the second pic imo, ..

I have the same condition so there is hope?


If you lay off the drugs, possibly...
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