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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22203 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
42 - no t prime because it is divisible by 2, 3, and 7 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
42 - no t prime because it is divisible by 2, 3, and 7 But was Douglas Adams any more fallible/infallible than other writings we have seen quoted on this thread ? What is the significance of prime numbers anyway ? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22203 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
TA, perhaps you are right in questioning the role of prime numbers in any of the theories of Creation, Desing, or Evolution. So can we consider the question as posed in the thread title "What is the best evidence/argument for intelligent design?" - actually, as posed, it should really be up to ID to provide the evidence as he knows more about Intelligent Design than the most of the rest of us. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34748 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Have you seen David Copperfield, Doug Henning, Dynamo, Cosentino and many others like them? All of them have performed "Jesus" like acts in front of many. Personally myself I believe that Jesus was just another magician (or more likely a group of, if he or them ever existed) such as those listed above who just deceived the primitive and gullible minds into believing a setup rhetoric. And don't try to start quoting the bibles (or other religious printed garbage) at me as those books contradict themselves on so many levels on so many occasions it isn't funny. My faith is in myself to sort the bulldust from fact and that should be all anyone with half a brain needs in this world. Religion has been the main cause of so many wars in our history that it really should be banned outright, and then we can work on getting rid of the 2nd most cause of war, which is politics. Cheers. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
TA, perhaps you are right in questioning the role of prime numbers in any of the theories of Creation, Desing, or Evolution. The proof is in the pudding. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Super Nature by Lyall Watson did that years ago. So what is new? It isn't new, it's a little over 13 billion years old. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
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Religion has been the main cause of so many wars in our history that it really should be banned outright, and then we can work on getting rid of the 2nd most cause of war, which is politics. Super Highly Intelligent People were The Instigators of The Religious/Political Wars. So, How are The Brainiacs going to NOT CAUSE/START Wars in This NO WAR FUTURE, you envision? Somehow, Scientists RULE Da World and Prevent Any and All Hostilities? When is The Brainiac Influence For Good going to DOMINATE All EndeavoUrs? ROTFLMAO. You have to TAKE THE HUMANITY OUT OF The Scientific Mind for this to happen. GOT HUMAN? GOT DEATH BY WAR. Oh Yeah. Sweetness. Enjoy Your ROBOTIC/CYBORG Future. fO shO Borg 'it' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
Have you seen David Copperfield, Doug Henning, Dynamo, Cosentino and many others like them? But what you do not see is they all have warmup acts that go on before them. Similarly the gospels don't mention the warmup acts. For example, Judas was a comic and Peter was a juggler. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Religion has been the main cause of so many wars in our history that it really should be banned outright, and then we can work on getting rid of the 2nd most cause of war, which is politics. You have a damn good point! The American experiment of self governing is the best and only example of what true Humanity is capable of. Now even in America Brainiacs are farking up the mix and we have become the exporters of war and death. This is called smart. When in fact it's the dumbest thing EVER conceived by man! Let the idiots carry on...we'll pick up the pieces. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
So ID, in your opinion, American aggression is more of a recent turn of events brought on by "Brainiacs". You don't seem to think your nation has been in a state of almost perpetual war with damned near everyone since the start of the "American experiment". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
War nowadays in our country is waged by government and big biz. The last war that was lawful was WWII. The ONLY need for war without agreement of the population is nuclear war waged on us without warning. I'm sure you can place a big long list of the conflicts we have been in... ...I don't care about that list. As I said the last lawful war was WWII. The Constitution is Intelligently Designed, for self government. We don't have self government anymore. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Prove species change into another species. Prove Neo-Darwinism... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
So Korea wasn't justified by an International body? what about the Defense of Kuwait? again the international community agreed on its defense In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
We have one rule of law. We don't wage war over International law. The design of our Constitution is intelligent. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Prove species change into another species. Prove Neo-Darwinism... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
brendan Send message Joined: 2 Sep 99 Posts: 165 Credit: 7,294,631 RAC: 0 |
The best evidence/argument for intelligent design is that, because biological sytems look complex, they must have been designed. Therefore, Darwin and the other 30,000 or so evolutionary biologists are wrong. ID postulates design, but does not provide evidence that they shows different species were designed. You may as well postulate that life started yesterday at 8am EST, with everything and everyone designed, including all the preprogrammed memories to convince us that we were born 53 years ago (or however old you are now!). This is just as good as, and as unprovable as, ID. ID provides no evidence that systems are, in fact designed rather than resulting from long term evolutionary pressure exerted on the underlying DNA sequence. Show us the proof.... |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
Prove species change into another species. Prove Neo-Darwinism... Prove electrons exist. Have you ever seen one? Prove the Internet exists. Have you ever seen it? Yet, both are useful concepts that help me through my everyday life. Evolution is a theory - a useful theory based on observed facts that explains what has gone before and what may come. Just because something happened a million years ago doesn't mean it was not real, nor does it mean that we can't understand what happened way back when, and why. Religion is thousands of theories - each of which claim to explain what has gone before without any hard proof; each of which often gives me contradictory information. When scientific theories provide conflicting information, we look for observable facts (like the fossil record) and apply logic to select one theory over another. I'm still waiting for any religion to do this. I'm also waiting for somebody to show how a religious belief will help me in my daily life, besides helping me put up with sh*t I could be changing, or convincing me to hate other people for no good reason. By the way, here is an interesting link to stories of evolution underway today. No need for fossils for any of this. Got any links to physical proof of the existence of your god, or anybody else's gods? Visions, hearing voices, hallucinations, old books without traceable references and really strong hunches don't count without reproducible physical measurements. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
The best evidence/argument for intelligent design is that, because biological sytems look complex, they must have been designed. Therefore, Darwin and the other 30,000 or so evolutionary biologists are wrong. ID postulates design, but does not provide evidence that they shows different species were designed. You may as well postulate that life started yesterday at 8am EST, with everything and everyone designed, including all the preprogrammed memories to convince us that we were born 53 years ago (or however old you are now!). This is just as good as, and as unprovable as, ID. ID provides no evidence that systems are, in fact designed rather than resulting from long term evolutionary pressure exerted on the underlying DNA sequence. Not true, and you know it.... “God has given us more than fourteen billion cells and connections in our brain. Why would God give us such a complex organ system unless he expects us to use it?†~ Dr. Benjamin Carson (world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon) Designed By the numbers... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Prove species change into another species. Prove Neo-Darwinism... You must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... ...just that simple. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
By the numbers... Can't be by chance. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
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