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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Try if you can to imagine a world without privacy. Noone can lead a life so perfect and so aware of cultural norms as to not fall victim to straying away from the cultural values assumed and imposed by others. Or worse, it is impossible to always be 'correct' for the conflicting random arbitrary 'interpretations' made by whatever different groups of vigilantes, or religious groups, or political groups, or whoever else. And yet: For the sake of deliberately obscure and turgidly verbose "Terms of Service", and the frivolous lure of cheaply provided "free-of-cost" "cloud" services including such as email, our online population naively leave open to scrutiny all details of their personal lives. Worse, even those not 'online' suffer their personal details being equally vulnerable due to the companies and organizations they deal with being themselves 'online'. How soon before the deadly online "house-of-cards" collapses? IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
For the sake of deliberately obscure and turgidly verbose "Terms of Service", and the frivolous lure of cheaply provided "free-of-cost" "cloud" services including such as email, our online population naively leave open to scrutiny all details of their personal lives. This for starters |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
For the sake of deliberately obscure and turgidly verbose "Terms of Service", and the frivolous lure of cheaply provided "free-of-cost" "cloud" services including such as email, our online population naively leave open to scrutiny all details of their personal lives. Me, and only my opinion as always. However, I'm sure you can find examples for yourself. Just one small example... Have you seen some of the examples for the TOS for using a WiFi 'hotspot' in some places? One recent example I declined was over six pages of small-print, required personal identifiable details for marketing purposes, and you agreed to Phorm-like monitoring... All for just using a slow WiFi hot-spot to access the internet?! No thanks. IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Try if you can to imagine a world without privacy. Revealed: how US and UK spy agencies defeat internet privacy and security • NSA and GCHQ unlock encryption used to protect emails, banking and medical records • $250m-a-year US program works covertly with tech companies to insert weaknesses into products • Security experts say programs 'undermine the fabric of the internet' And yet still no great public outcry?... IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
A reminder and wake-up call for all those who believe they have nothing to hide? China's 'Big Vs' disown [them]selves online to avoid new gossip laws The Chinese government’s unprecedented crack down on online... ... it is the latter group, OffBeat China said, which have been most active in unverifying their accounts, after presumably calculating that the risk of sticking their heads above the online parapet is not worth the reward. All on our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
A reminder and wake-up call for all those who believe they have nothing to hide? Morocco teens held for kissing photo on Facebook A Moroccan teenage boy and girl have been arrested for posting an online photograph of themselves kissing. The couple - aged 14 and 15 - had their picture taken by a friend outside their school in the north-eastern town of Nador... They were held for violating public decency... Do you hold and follow all the same values and rules as those who are watching your every move and click?... All on our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And yet still no great public outcry?... The public outcry is to increase the loss of privacy, so the "bad guys" can be caught before they do the deed. All we have left are cowards. |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
A reminder and wake-up call for all those who believe they have nothing to hide? The good news is the US did not have the internet a century ago because even adults would have been arrested for kissing in public as a violation of decency. If just kids they might also risk reform school have they were showing moral turpitude. People love to say the middle east is behind the west. Few realize how little behind. Appear in public without a head covering of some sort? 60 years ago. Want to see the exact same head covering rules today? US military. Yes there is a difference in style but not in concept. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
Michael Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4608 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 |
Try if you can to imagine a world without privacy. It's really our fault (the collective)...Americans are too busy watching Pawn Stars, Honey BooBoo and the Kardashians to have any inkling about their loss of privacy. |
Matt Giwer Send message Joined: 21 May 00 Posts: 841 Credit: 990,879 RAC: 0 |
I don't like quoting the Mail, but in this case I think it is justified. Blanket surveillance is always a difficult call. Even in the old days automation was a challenge. It centered on computers recognizing words like bomb which was a real challenge with it started as was voice only. Email made it infinitely easier. PGP has been around since the late 1980s. How many use it? That said seems to me it could all be solved very simply. Define terrorism as 9/11 type activities. Strictly limit the use of anything uncovered solely to use is cases of legally defined terrorism. That means only an Al Qaeda plot to assassinate the president would count. A long gunman Oswald type could not be revealed. The idea is sound. Who will go along with not stopping the next Lee Harvey Oswald? But no surveillance means neither Al Qaeda nor Oswald is stopped. Which do you choose? Now if you choose to stop the next Oswald where do you draw the line? Members of Congress? Damned right any law will include Congress. Government employees? Remember the Navy Yard shootings a couple weeks ago? I worked for the targeted organization for 18 years. Damned right I want it included. Who do you work for? Everyone wants the benefits of it but so do potential perps. So where are there to be limits? Danger to live and property? What crime is not? It is all down to do it or not but if you do it there is no way to draw a line as to what is done. But lets be serious. The Soviet Union ran a quite fine horrible example of what a government should not be without any internet surveillance at all. it is difficult to imagine it being any worse. And it was communication which brought it down. The issue is the kind of government. With or without surveillance a totalitarian government can arise and take over. In any totalitarian government at least 10% is spying on the rest because they believe in that kind of government. That is more effective than any internet surveillance can ever be. Unvarnished Haaretz Jerusalem Post The origin of the Yahweh Cult |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Now PM Cameron Supports MI5Is there nothing the Mail won't twist into attacking the BBC? So does DPM Clegg 1984 was supposed to be warning, not a blueprint! Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
For just one example of how one country views online comment: Beyond the Great Firewall: China's global censorship campaign Web blocks, DoS, phishing the price hacks pay for negative China stories China’s fearsome censorship apparatus is increasingly expanding beyond the confines of the Great Firewall to influence media outside its borders, often by online attack... ... China's efforts can be split into four distinct areas: direct action from Chinese officials to prevent negative articles being published and punishing media owners that disobey; economic ‘carrots’ and ‘sticks’ to induce self-censorship; indirect pressure by advertisers, foreign governments and others; cyber attacks and physical assault. The report claimed that different strategies are used for different geographies and situations. ... Apply that to 'offline' comment also? Are you sure that isn't already happening??... All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Apply that to 'offline' comment also? Are you sure that isn't already happening??... Since the dawn of time Martin, the dawn of time. |
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