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Message 1377318 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 5:59:28 UTC


NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily - revealed


The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.

The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.


The law on which the order explicitly relies is the "business records" provision of the USA Patriot Act.

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Message 1377325 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 6:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 1377318.


U.S. Is Secretly Collecting Records of Verizon Calls


WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is secretly carrying out a domestic surveillance program under which it is collecting business communications records involving Americans under a hotly debated section of the Patriot Act, according to a highly classified court order disclosed on Wednesday night.

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Message 1377334 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 6:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 1377325.


U.S. Is Secretly Collecting Records of Verizon Calls


WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is secretly carrying out a domestic surveillance program under which it is collecting business communications records involving Americans under a hotly debated section of the Patriot Act, according to a highly classified court order disclosed on Wednesday night.

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Pity but not surprised and it's not the only thing going on and being collected and remember whom brought the patriot act in and what party . Not that it lets the current gov of the hook it needs to be repealed , otherwise you are living in a police state . So much for your constitution ay
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Message 1377339 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 6:59:50 UTC

I think this is just the tip of the iceberg regarding surveillance of the general populace. One the one hand, I don't like it, but on the other if an individual isn't breaking the law why worry about whether your calls are being monitored. Drug dealers must really be dumb if they use cell phones to conduct business as well as anyone else conducting shady business. Once a call hits the air waves anyone with the right equipment can listen in on what you have to say.

Big brother is watching and listening and getting better at it all the time.
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Message 1377343 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 7:10:14 UTC - in response to Message 1377318.


The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.

The law on which the order explicitly relies is the "business records" provision of the USA Patriot Act.


It seems like the FBI in conjunction with the NSA are conducting an investigation (more than likely terrorism based) & sought a court order to obtain records of those being investigated....

....if you check page 4 of that guardian article you'll find that "the court order expires at 5pm Eastern time on 19th July".


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Message 1377345 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 7:16:15 UTC - in response to Message 1377343.
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I agree with everyone's comments. Please read this from Time Mag. I just skipped to #3.



7 Things to Know About the Government’s Secret Database of Telephone Data



3. But Telling Americans That Their Data is Being Collected Isn’t Legal: The order specifically forbids Verizon from informing customers (or anyone else) that their data is being collected, stating “no person shall disclose to any other person that the FBI or the NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order.”


I wonder how their stock will fair today??
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Message 1377346 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 7:20:15 UTC

The phone tapping is not as much of a problem than what else is going on and guess who has had first hand experience with it ......

F&*(ers didn't get far thou

One day I may tell you all about what umm they tried to do

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Message 1377428 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 12:26:30 UTC
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Message 1377584 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 19:12:22 UTC

Let em collect my records...I have nothing to hide
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Message 1377594 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 19:31:01 UTC - in response to Message 1377428.

[quote]It's Bush's fault but Obama supports it?

Communism doesn't work without hypocrisy.

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Ummmmm you've not seen our congress in action lately have you.

Instead of investigating W on Treason charges Dems get called unpatriotic.

Big O coughs in public and we have congressional hearing in ever facet to see if hes a Muslim or even born here. Yeah only communists are hypocrites
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Message 1377631 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 20:53:05 UTC
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Message 1377642 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 21:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 1377584.

Let em collect my records...I have nothing to hide

Rather boring life, I feel sorry for you ... ;-)

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Message 1377653 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 21:19:00 UTC - in response to Message 1377642.

Let em collect my records...I have nothing to hide

Rather boring life, I feel sorry for you ... ;-)


I'm not totally boring. I just don't do much via my phone.
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Message 1377665 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 21:39:09 UTC

If Anyone has Nothing To Hide, then put a post in your front yard and on a hook in the post, put your house key on it. With a big sign on the post saying: Here is The Key to My Home, Please Use. I Have Nothing To Hide. No Stealing, just Look in Every Nook and Cranny. And Take Your Time. Take Pics, Vids, Audio. Ask any question(if I'm Home) and Get an Honest True answer-About Anything. Have A Cuppa and Cake. No Need For Appointment. Anytime 24/7/365.

Got Nothing To Hide. Then Privacy In Any Way, Shape, or Form is Not Needed/Necessary.

Come And Look See. Ok? Good?

I Am Totally Boring. But I DO NOT WANT ANYONE or ANYTHING Snooping, Looking, Checking, Recording etc etc etc My Life. Stay The Frak Away. Got IT? Again, Good.

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Message 1377691 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 22:35:19 UTC - in response to Message 1377653.

Let em collect my records...I have nothing to hide

Rather boring life, I feel sorry for you ... ;-)


I'm not totally boring. I just don't do much via my phone.

Since the surveillance includes license plate cameras, e-mail, US Mail, ...

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Message 1377695 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 22:54:09 UTC

what people should be asking is why 7mil people what alerted them to ask for so many , where did they get the tip off from , when you figure that out then you will know just how big , big brother has become . There are people that come here and say things that will set the alarm bells off and they put themselves on the watch lists . The phone taps are just to get legal evidence to use in a court . They already know who , why and what but can't use there info in a court room as it has been collected illegally . Everything you type is scanned no matter what chat room you use , message board , social media , blog and text you send . Every phone call you make . There biggest problem is using the info they have in a court room . At that is what the court order for the phone taps is all about to get legal info they can actually use in a court room .
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Message 1377697 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 22:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 1377631.

Instead of investigating W on Treason charges...


You're being delusional. What when where and why?


The only one that is delusional is you .

Everyone go and look at this P$%k's profile to see how a coward works and what he really thinks of everyone here and what he stands for .
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Message 1377698 - Posted: 6 Jun 2013, 23:00:43 UTC - in response to Message 1377631.

Instead of investigating W on Treason charges...


You're being delusional. What when where and why?

A case could be made for war criminal.
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Message 1377708 - Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 0:06:00 UTC
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Message 1377711 - Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 0:24:32 UTC

Firstly before I have areal discussion take down what you have as a profile . Profiles are for personal info about the user not a back door way of dissing people here or the project when you do that maybe i'll have a real conversation but I am very offened what you have there .
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