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Message 1383195 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 20:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 1383193.  

Thanks for reminding me of "all my details" which I already know. Dig up somemore and you will see I ran with so-called older versions for long periods of time until I CHOSE TO CHANGE as I upgraded my computer systems.. To me it is like a hobby watch some numbers go by without affecting the real things I CHOOSE to do. Years before I was much more involved with United Devices Cancer reseach projects until they choose to cut it off. Now for a charge you can use their software to run your own projects. I left, as I will do here.


No, you didn't stay with older versions until you chose to change. You must be confusing the BOINC framework, for which you do have a choice to upgrade, with the SETI@home science app, for which you do not have a choice.
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Message 1383196 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 20:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 1383177.  

I disagree.....been here 11 years and never have been informed any NEW VERSIONS will automatically be installed on my system without my permission. I understand the file "updates". A new version should be my choice, especially when it "bogs down" peoples systems farther....like this was is doing.

Go here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project

Change your preferences to not accept work except from any other app, and tick only the apps you like.

Be happy.

Sorry the default is to accept work from all applications. I know that is covered in the BOINC wiki. OBW BOINC, not SETI@home.


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Message 1383199 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:01:47 UTC

Yeah I could swear that TPTB did not automatically select SETI@home v7: yes
I had to do it manually

and if you didn't want work for newer applications should have said no
to "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?" no

my current selections
they seem to work fine

Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: no
Astropulse v505: no
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no



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Message 1383200 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:04:19 UTC

You are right on one point the old "legacy version" did run out of workunits ////but it was ALWAYS my choice to upgrade if I elected to continue. I decided to continue I upgraded my system....again my CHOICE....
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Message 1383202 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1383200.  

You are right on one point the old "legacy version" did run out of workunits ////but it was ALWAYS my choice to upgrade if I elected to continue. I decided to continue I upgraded my system....again my CHOICE....


Still incorrect. I've been here just as long as you and there has never been a choice not to upgrade. The option to receive newer workunits is relatively new; it didn't exist 11 years ago.
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Message 1383203 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:14:40 UTC - in response to Message 1383200.  

You are right on one point the old "legacy version" did run out of workunits ////but it was ALWAYS my choice to upgrade if I elected to continue. I decided to continue I upgraded my system....again my CHOICE....

As OzzFan already mentioned, you are obviously confusing BOINC and SETI@home.

I'm still running BOINC 5.10.45 on this host (my choice), but at the same time, I'm running SETI@home v7 with that BOINC (not my choice).

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Message 1383205 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:18:12 UTC

Thanks Tom.......and Gary C. I am always Happy..... I which I would have been given a choice. I was not. I rest my case. Good Luck and Enjoy your Day!!!!
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Message 1383206 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 1383205.  

I'm still wondering why you wanted a choice this time, but you had no choice through SETI@home v5, v6, and v6 Multibeam. Why should this time be any different?
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Message 1383210 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:29:36 UTC

Mister Volunteer tester.......read what you wrote I did have a choice....in the past............End of my Story.
Good Luck all!!!!!!
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Message 1383212 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 1383210.  

Mr. MELund, read what everyone here has been telling you; you did not have a choice. The functionality to automatically upgrade the science applications has always been a part of the BOINC framework.

I still think you are confusing your choice to upgrade BOINC with SETI.


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Message 1383213 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 1383210.  

Mister Volunteer tester.......read what you wrote I did have a choice....in the past............End of my Story.
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Melund--sorry man you have never had a choice in the type of workunits you ran--you do have a choice on the version of Boinc you run. Please try to see the difference.


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Message 1383215 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 1383177.  

A new version should be my choice, especially when it "bogs down" peoples systems farther....like this was is doing.

@MELund, oddly enough, my system seems to have become faster in the weeks since the latest SETI application upgrade, both in browser functions and other local apps offline. I don't, however, attribute any changes to the SETI application or BOINC. Any change in system performance is likely coincidental.
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Message 1383216 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 21:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 1383177.  
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I disagree.....been here 11 years and never have been informed any NEW VERSIONS will automatically be installed on my system without my permission. I understand the file "updates". A new version should be my choice, especially when it "bogs down" peoples systems farther....like this was is doing.


First off: this poster has ONLY v6.03 units on his only rig; so he can't blame v7 as he probably never ticked it to accept them. He IS, however, running 7.0.28, which, IIRC, was buggy. But, as everyone points out, 7.0.28 was HIS choice.
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Message 1383217 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:01:24 UTC - in response to Message 1383213.  
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you have never had a choice in the type of workunits you ran--

Actually, you do have a choice as to which type of tasks you run, be it Astropulse, Seti Enhanced (for as long as these are still around), Seti v7 and only on CPU, only on GPU or on both CPU and GPU. But unless you use the anonymous platform, you don't have a choice as to which application version you run.
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Message 1383224 - Posted: 20 Jun 2013, 22:38:23 UTC - in response to Message 1383170.  
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MeLund, I looked at your computer's tasks and you do not have any downloaded V7s.
Why are you upset about them since you have none? When V6 runs dry you will have none of them also.
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Message 1383241 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 0:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 1383205.  

I wish I would have been given a choice

Don't take us wrong, probably all of us hate automatic updates to Windows, browsers, etc. (e.g. I use SRWare Iron instead of Google Chrome to avoid automatic updates)

But new versions of science apps (which do other type of research) can't be avoided if the project stops distributing the old type of tasks (and if the user want to stay with the project)
(it's like if your country changes the currency - you can't continue to use the old currency much longer)

All projects do this.

Look your Einstein@Home tasks:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=6212307

They are "Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo) v1.33 (BRP4SSE)"

Looking here:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/apps.php

... you can see when this app was first distributed (at some point after that date this app was automatically downloaded to your computer)
Windows/x86 1.33 (BRP4SSE) 25 Jan 2013 10:04:33 UTC

Your Computer joined Einstein@Home on: "Created 27 Nov 2012 0:15:14 UTC")
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6212307

And ~2 months later 'your' BOINC automatically downloaded this new app from Einstein@Home servers.


 


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Message 1383257 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 3:26:14 UTC

Seems everyone is still confused. It has nothing to do with Seti@home applications. It has nothing to do with what BOINC client software is on your machine. It is what BOINC SERVER version is hosting the project. IIRC when BOINC first went to supporting two applications on a project, someone had to make a choice what the default action was for the new project. That happened a long time ago. IIRC that was done when the first AstroPulse work units came online. There was lots and lots of bitching and carping on the boards at the time. The default chosen was when a new project is added the user wants to run these workunits. That is correct from a science standpoint. After all the carping and bitching was over with and other projects having more than one science app, Dr. A put in the switch for "if no work available run other applications." I think he also adjusted the server code so that if that switch was set to no, when a new application was added the default was not to process, and if set yes the default was to process, but don't quote me on that and it could have changed.

As Jord points out, if you use anonymous platform you can't get any work except for the applications you specify in your appinfo file. BTW you can run standard apps on anonymous platform, you don't have to have optimized ones.

The reality is you had and still have the choice. You just didn't know you did or how to exercise the choice. Good user level BOINC documentation is rather lacking.

[Jord, before you get upset, I am saying user doc, I know there is excellent doc for it if you have some programming experience. But for the rank user, it leaves a lot to assumption. It really could stand a hired tech writer to crank out a BOINC for Dummies book.]

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Message 1383266 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 4:03:23 UTC - in response to Message 1383257.  

The reality is you had and still have the choice. You just didn't know you did or how to exercise the choice. Good user level BOINC documentation is rather lacking.

[Jord, before you get upset, I am saying user doc, I know there is excellent doc for it if you have some programming experience. But for the rank user, it leaves a lot to assumption. It really could stand a hired tech writer to crank out a BOINC for Dummies book.]

Someone or a group of people can write more thorough BOINC documentation, but you still can't make people read it.
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Message 1383268 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 4:32:55 UTC - in response to Message 1383257.  

Seems everyone is still confused.

Everyone?
You mean these people? ;)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/user_search.php?action=search&search_string=everyone&country=any&profile=either&team=either&search_type=date&action=Search


 


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Message 1383329 - Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 9:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 1383212.  

I think people are missing the following bit:

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Back then it would have been Seti Classic. I don't recall Classic having auto-update build-in.
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