SETI@home Version 7 has been released

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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 37300 Credit: 498,910,283 RAC: 502,860	Message 1374865 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:07:43 UTC - in response to Message 1374861. Last modified: 1 Jun 2013, 17:08:27 UTC
you earn enough money to pay such a bill? i have not so much, and now the bill starts to hurt I understand, and did not mean to be rude to you...... You played that card, friend. I am blessed with a good job, I build fire trucks for the best fire apparatus company in the world, Pierce Manufacturing. That does not mean bills don't get a bit tight when I have to shell out over half a grand in one month to keep the freaking lights on. I am glad that you consider the project worthy enough to spend what you can afford on it. Yes, it's a cost that is hard at times to justify. I have some friends and relatives that think I am stark raving mad. I drive a 1990 Oldsmobile Ciera when I could perhaps have a shiny new 'Stang in the driveway. I have chosen my priorities. My 1985 Maxda RX7 'fun' car is still pockmarked from a hail storm that smacked it a few years ago because I did not have the $4000.00 the body shop wanted to fix it. Yes, I have made choices. ____________ ****************** Crunching Seti, loving all of God's kitties. I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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Ageless Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 12127 Credit: 2,519,735 RAC: 280	Message 1374869 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1374854.
Car??? Seti is giving away cars??? They're auctioning off a moon buggy. Problem is... it's on the moon. ;-) I got me almost enough creds to reach there and back........ If I fetch it, does it run on regular gas? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Roving_Vehicle#Wheels_and_power says Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a capacity of 121 A·h each. So be sure to bring the correct replacements, as I don't think the tow truck can get that far. ____________ Jord Loving awareness is free.
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Eric Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1076 Credit: 7,773,248 RAC: 6,903	Message 1374870 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 1374223.
Only errors: hostid=6598140. What is here the problem? Could be a bad/overheating card or bad driver. My bigger concern is why the daily quotas are being reduced when the invalid results are found. That needs to be fixed. ____________
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Eric Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1076 Credit: 7,773,248 RAC: 6,903	Message 1374871 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:19:48 UTC - in response to Message 1374844.
Eric said he'd post some details on the differences with the new app back on Thursday. I guess he didn't get around to doing it Yeah, should have done it first. Spending too much time putting out the fires v7 started. Hopefully today I'll get to it. ____________
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 37300 Credit: 498,910,283 RAC: 502,860	Message 1374873 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1374869.
Car??? Seti is giving away cars??? They're auctioning off a moon buggy. Problem is... it's on the moon. ;-) I got me almost enough creds to reach there and back........ If I fetch it, does it run on regular gas? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Roving_Vehicle#Wheels_and_power says Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a capacity of 121 A·h each. So be sure to bring the correct replacements, as I don't think the tow truck can get that far. Oh, no problem. I have a couple of then silver zinc thingys in my garage. Always wondered what I was gonna do with them. ____________ ****************** Crunching Seti, loving all of God's kitties. I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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Eric Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1076 Credit: 7,773,248 RAC: 6,903	Message 1374874 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:21:03 UTC - in response to Message 1374762.
When i checked last night i couldnt get to this site, now i cant get any work units,only units running are on my gpu. Our racks at the colo lost their internet connection for several hours. We're trying to figure out why. ____________
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 37300 Credit: 498,910,283 RAC: 502,860	Message 1374875 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:22:28 UTC - in response to Message 1374874. Last modified: 1 Jun 2013, 17:23:18 UTC
When i checked last night i couldnt get to this site, now i cant get any work units,only units running are on my gpu. Our racks at the colo lost their internet connection for several hours. We're trying to figure out why. Saw that...... Your colo guys were asleep? I thought that was supposed to be one of the benefits. ____________ ****************** Crunching Seti, loving all of God's kitties. I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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Eric Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1076 Credit: 7,773,248 RAC: 6,903	Message 1374877 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:24:51 UTC - in response to Message 1374875.
Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now. ____________
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 37300 Credit: 498,910,283 RAC: 502,860	Message 1374880 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1374877.
Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now. Send me the secret handshake, and I shall intervene on your behalf....LOL. I do keep some rather odd office hours at times. ____________ ****************** Crunching Seti, loving all of God's kitties. I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 4812 Credit: 71,586,911 RAC: 8,777	Message 1374884 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:33:41 UTC - in response to Message 1374880.
Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now. Send me the secret handshake, and I shall intervene on your behalf....LOL. I do keep some rather odd office hours at times. I suspect Jeff may be on a rampage looking for David right now.. No reason, just intuition. ____________ "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change." Charles Darwin
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 37300 Credit: 498,910,283 RAC: 502,860	Message 1374886 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 1374884.
Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now. Send me the secret handshake, and I shall intervene on your behalf....LOL. I do keep some rather odd office hours at times. I suspect Jeff may be on a rampage looking for David right now.. No reason, just intuition. I'll check the news for CA murder mysteries later tonight...... ____________ ****************** Crunching Seti, loving all of God's kitties. I have met a few friends in my life. Most were cats.
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BMH Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 308 Credit: 76,738,097 RAC: 89,705	Message 1374887 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:37:42 UTC - in response to Message 1374854.
Car??? Seti is giving away cars??? They're auctioning off a moon buggy. Problem is... it's on the moon. ;-) I got me almost enough creds to reach there and back........ If I fetch it, does it run on regular gas? Nope (electric), nor regular gravity (apparently). It has less than 25 miles on the clock though. Actually, the 'buyer to collect' stipulation isn't so bad... if you live near Hollywood ;) ____________ Brian.
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Bogie Send message Joined: 21 Dec 06 Posts: 19 Credit: 16,594,430 RAC: 56,606	Message 1374893 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 17:59:00 UTC
I really need some help plz, i have v7 checked should i uncheck setiathome enhanched, all that is running on my pc's is the gpu, and nothing shows dling, i am lost as to how to fix this any help would be great,ty
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Gatekeeper Send message Joined: 14 Jul 04 Posts: 887 Credit: 176,366,876 RAC: 1,026	Message 1374898 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 18:14:33 UTC - in response to Message 1374893.
I really need some help plz, i have v7 checked should i uncheck setiathome enhanched, all that is running on my pc's is the gpu, and nothing shows dling, i am lost as to how to fix this any help would be great,ty You really should post this type of question in the NC forum, or in the Q&A section, but: You're still running anon. platform. Set your rig(s) to NNT, run out the old work and report it, then rename the app_info.xml to something else. Reset the project, and change back to accepting new work. Voila'! ____________
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Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3963 Credit: 31,848,281 RAC: 10,782	Message 1374899 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 18:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 1374893.
I really need some help plz, i have v7 checked should i uncheck setiathome enhanched, all that is running on my pc's is the gpu, and nothing shows dling, i am lost as to how to fix this any help would be great,ty You're running Setienhanced v6 apps on Anonymous platform, until you get a app_info with v7 apps in it you won't be able to run Setienhanced v7 Wu's, unless you remove the app_info and revert to the Stock apps. Claggy
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Francesco Forti Send message Joined: 24 May 00 Posts: 280 Credit: 131,370,466 RAC: 46,376	Message 1374903 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 18:24:39 UTC - in response to Message 1374800. Last modified: 1 Jun 2013, 18:25:07 UTC
1) All the Stock v7 GPU apps are Lunatics apps now! 2) You did go and enable 'SETI@home v7: yes' in your project preferences didn't you? 3) No, you copy and paste it from one of the posts in Number Crunching, and edit it to your requirements. 1: great! But Only GPU? Why not CPU Too? Sooner or Later? 2: NO, I didn't. Now I've done it on project page and I'v done "update" on the host 25 min ago. Nothing, untill now. Have I to reset again or have I only to wait? 3: What do you mean with (mine) requirements? I have found this: Make a new text file named app_config.xml and have this in the contents <app_config> <app> <name>setiathome_v7</name> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>.04</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> </app_config> and this <app_config> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> <max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> </app_config> As I understand I will have V6 and V7, both GPU and CPU. On some Hosts I run only one GPU task, on three ones I run two. Sorry but I have to bump my message. There are too many silly discussions and flames about "cars". Forum should be left clean for important and tecnical info. Avoid noise if you want info. ____________
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Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3963 Credit: 31,848,281 RAC: 10,782	Message 1374905 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 18:34:29 UTC - in response to Message 1374903.
This is a News thread, if you want further answers read the already started threads in Number Crunching, or start your own. Claggy
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Borgholio Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 648 Credit: 11,495,802 RAC: 3,390	Message 1374906 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 18:36:41 UTC - in response to Message 1374903.
Still no explanation on what v7 does. Yesterday has come and gone... ____________ You will be assimilated...bunghole!
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5563 Credit: 51,320,056 RAC: 40,048	Message 1374917 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 19:58:15 UTC - in response to Message 1374906.
Still no explanation on what v7 does. Yesterday has come and gone... As mentioned in this very thread, there have been other more urgent issues that have required people's attention. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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gs Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jan 07 Posts: 29 Credit: 2,661,021 RAC: 2,547	Message 1374925 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 20:39:26 UTC - in response to Message 1374871.
Spending too much time putting out the fires v7 started. Hopefully today I'll get to it. Self induced. To be honest, moving to v7 was prepared poorly: - no heads up message explaining what the changes are - no quick guide for fixes that need to be done - obviously no work ahead with lunatics developers, so they were not ready to provide an enhanced app and new installer for the v7 I'm disapointed how this is managed.
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you earn enough money to pay such a bill?
i have not so much, and now the bill starts to hurt

I understand, and did not mean to be rude to you......
You played that card, friend.

I am blessed with a good job, I build fire trucks for the best fire apparatus company in the world, Pierce Manufacturing.

That does not mean bills don't get a bit tight when I have to shell out over half a grand in one month to keep the freaking lights on.

I am glad that you consider the project worthy enough to spend what you can afford on it. Yes, it's a cost that is hard at times to justify. I have some friends and relatives that think I am stark raving mad.

I drive a 1990 Oldsmobile Ciera when I could perhaps have a shiny new 'Stang in the driveway. I have chosen my priorities. My 1985 Maxda RX7 'fun' car is still pockmarked from a hail storm that smacked it a few years ago because I did not have the $4000.00 the body shop wanted to fix it.

Yes, I have made choices.
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I have met a few friends in my life.
Most were cats.

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Car???
Seti is giving away cars???

They're auctioning off a moon buggy. Problem is... it's on the moon. ;-)

I got me almost enough creds to reach there and back........
If I fetch it, does it run on regular gas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Roving_Vehicle#Wheels_and_power says Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a capacity of 121 A·h each.

So be sure to bring the correct replacements, as I don't think the tow truck can get that far.
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Only errors: hostid=6598140.

What is here the problem?

Could be a bad/overheating card or bad driver. My bigger concern is why the daily quotas are being reduced when the invalid results are found. That needs to be fixed.
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Eric said he'd post some details on the differences with the new app back on Thursday. I guess he didn't get around to doing it

Yeah, should have done it first. Spending too much time putting out the fires v7 started. Hopefully today I'll get to it.
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Car???
Seti is giving away cars???

They're auctioning off a moon buggy. Problem is... it's on the moon. ;-)

I got me almost enough creds to reach there and back........
If I fetch it, does it run on regular gas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Roving_Vehicle#Wheels_and_power says Power was provided by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide non-rechargeable batteries with a capacity of 121 A·h each.

So be sure to bring the correct replacements, as I don't think the tow truck can get that far.

Oh, no problem. I have a couple of then silver zinc thingys in my garage.
Always wondered what I was gonna do with them.

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Crunching Seti, loving all of God's kitties.

I have met a few friends in my life.
Most were cats.

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When i checked last night i couldnt get to this site, now i cant get any work units,only units running are on my gpu.

Our racks at the colo lost their internet connection for several hours. We're trying to figure out why.
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When i checked last night i couldnt get to this site, now i cant get any work units,only units running are on my gpu.

Our racks at the colo lost their internet connection for several hours. We're trying to figure out why.

Saw that......
Your colo guys were asleep?

I thought that was supposed to be one of the benefits.
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Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now.
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Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now.

Send me the secret handshake, and I shall intervene on your behalf....LOL.

I do keep some rather odd office hours at times.
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Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now.

Send me the secret handshake, and I shall intervene on your behalf....LOL.

I do keep some rather odd office hours at times.

I suspect Jeff may be on a rampage looking for David right now.. No reason, just intuition.
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Jeff was unreachable, and I didn't know the magic incantations that would open a service ticket at the colo. I do now.

Send me the secret handshake, and I shall intervene on your behalf....LOL.

I do keep some rather odd office hours at times.

I suspect Jeff may be on a rampage looking for David right now.. No reason, just intuition.

I'll check the news for CA murder mysteries later tonight......
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Most were cats.

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Car???
Seti is giving away cars???

They're auctioning off a moon buggy. Problem is... it's on the moon. ;-)

I got me almost enough creds to reach there and back........
If I fetch it, does it run on regular gas?

Nope (electric), nor regular gravity (apparently). It has less than 25 miles on the clock though.

Actually, the 'buyer to collect' stipulation isn't so bad... if you live near Hollywood ;)
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I really need some help plz, i have v7 checked should i uncheck setiathome enhanched, all that is running on my pc's is the gpu, and nothing shows dling, i am lost as to how to fix this any help would be great,ty

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I really need some help plz, i have v7 checked should i uncheck setiathome enhanched, all that is running on my pc's is the gpu, and nothing shows dling, i am lost as to how to fix this any help would be great,ty

You really should post this type of question in the NC forum, or in the Q&A section, but:

You're still running anon. platform. Set your rig(s) to NNT, run out the old work and report it, then rename the app_info.xml to something else. Reset the project, and change back to accepting new work. Voila'!
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I really need some help plz, i have v7 checked should i uncheck setiathome enhanched, all that is running on my pc's is the gpu, and nothing shows dling, i am lost as to how to fix this any help would be great,ty

You're running Setienhanced v6 apps on Anonymous platform, until you get a app_info with v7 apps in it you won't be able to run Setienhanced v7 Wu's, unless you remove the app_info and revert to the Stock apps.

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1) All the Stock v7 GPU apps are Lunatics apps now!
2) You did go and enable 'SETI@home v7: yes' in your project preferences didn't you?
3) No, you copy and paste it from one of the posts in Number Crunching, and edit it to your requirements.

1: great! But Only GPU? Why not CPU Too? Sooner or Later?
2: NO, I didn't. Now I've done it on project page and I'v done "update" on the host 25 min ago. Nothing, untill now. Have I to reset again or have I only to wait?
3: What do you mean with (mine) requirements?

I have found this:

Make a new text file named app_config.xml and have this in the contents

<app_config>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.04</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

and this

<app_config>
<app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
<max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

As I understand I will have V6 and V7, both GPU and CPU.
On some Hosts I run only one GPU task, on three ones I run two.

Sorry but I have to bump my message.
There are too many silly discussions and flames about "cars".
Forum should be left clean for important and tecnical info.
Avoid noise if you want info.
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This is a News thread, if you want further answers read the already started threads in Number Crunching, or start your own.

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Still no explanation on what v7 does. Yesterday has come and gone...
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Still no explanation on what v7 does. Yesterday has come and gone...

As mentioned in this very thread, there have been other more urgent issues that have required people's attention.
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Spending too much time putting out the fires v7 started. Hopefully today I'll get to it.

Self induced. To be honest, moving to v7 was prepared poorly:

- no heads up message explaining what the changes are
- no quick guide for fixes that need to be done
- obviously no work ahead with lunatics developers, so they were not ready to provide an enhanced app and new installer for the v7

I'm disapointed how this is managed.

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