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Message 1336472 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 1:42:18 UTC
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I guess it is still you and me...

What are the maximum capabilities of a Type 1 civilization?
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Message 1336493 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 2:22:03 UTC - in response to Message 1336472.  
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I guess it is still you and me...

What are the maximum capabilities of a Type 1 civilization?


Fusion power and Space elevators.

Up to the Type I technological break point, with either civilization destruction or survival.

How do you think we will get there using mans ethics? There is for sure a difference between mans ethics and God's morals. In every Faith one can see basic morals of God. Now before some opens their mouths and insert their foot allow me to define this just a tad bit more. In all Faiths, if used correctly we can see how all can live together in peace. Christ, Buddha, Mohammed, and many others.

In the Supreme Court of the United States outside as well as inside would be art work showing all of the worlds Faiths. Our very law comes from the 10 Commandments, it's basics are all there.

I think we get to Type I technological with out the break point and without civilization destruction only with God. And both Einstein and Fermi knew that. Wouldn't you think so?
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Message 1336503 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 3:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 1336405.  



We have the right to freedom of speech in this country. This is fully expressed in the allowance of Porn in print as well as on the web. Some places on the web are a little backward and don't FULLY understand such things as our Bill of Rights. Just a little fact I thought Id let you in on....{smile}


Why don't you share some of your favorite porn sites ID?
You seem like the type who'd have quite a list of online sources to compliment your print porn collection.

Hmmm. I have a few, rather rough sites though.
I don't think I could share them here.
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Message 1336507 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 4:26:55 UTC

Oh, it became a little long.
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Message 1336509 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 4:57:39 UTC - in response to Message 1336454.  

Hi Robert.

If you watch the picture of God with a gun in his right arm on that web-page, my best guess is that freedom of expression or speech is not necessarily the same as freedom of "belief".

Meaning that such a picture may go well for some people who are supposed to believe, but not so well for others. The same may very likely happen to those of us here who are either agnostics or atheists. They may either like or dislike this picture.

My best guess is that religion is not anything better off when such ideas of creationism are being displayed or portrayed.

Thinking a little about it - I guess you may be right on this since it was me that mentioned the Devil. Still ...


We have the right to freedom of speech in this country. This is fully expressed in the allowance of Porn in print as well as on the web. Some places on the web are a little backward and don't FULLY understand such things as our Bill of Rights. Just a little fact I thought Id let you in on....{smile}


And all web sites have TOS. edit- {smile}

Acronym Definition; TOS: Teacher Over Shoulder (chat) TOS: The Original Series (Star Trek) TOS: The Other Side: TOS: Type Of Service: TOS: Thoracic Outlet Syndrome


Define...

Steve gave you the answer. And Dont pretend you dont know.


I did not pretend. I asked you to define.
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Message 1336514 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 5:18:22 UTC - in response to Message 1336509.  

Hi Robert.

If you watch a picture of God with a gun in his right arm on that web-page, my best guess is that freedom of expression or speech is not necessarily the same as freedom of "belief".

Meaning that such a picture may go well for some people who are supposed to believe, but not so well for others. The same may very likely happen to those of us here who are either agnostics or atheists. They may either like or dislike this picture.

My best guess is that religion is not anything better off when such ideas of creationism are being displayed or portrayed.

Thinking a little about it - I guess you may be right on this since it was me that mentioned the Devil. Still ...


We have the right to freedom of speech in this country. This is fully expressed in the allowance of Porn in print as well as on the web. Some places on the web are a little backward and don't FULLY understand such things as our Bill of Rights. Just a little fact I thought Id let you in on....{smile}


And all web sites have TOS. edit- {smile}

Acronym Definition; TOS: Teacher Over Shoulder (chat) TOS: The Original Series (Star Trek) TOS: The Other Side: TOS: Type Of Service: TOS: Thoracic Outlet Syndrome


Define...

Steve gave you the answer. And Dont pretend you dont know.


I did not pretend. I asked you to define.

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Message 1336524 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 6:21:58 UTC

All my posts are rational posts. I will not post what will be taken down and used against me by haters. ;-)

If you have a rational post, that is on topic I'll think about a answer for you and post it for all to see. But, it has to be a rational post.
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Message 1336551 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 8:54:02 UTC

From the list of films that ID has published he has extended the accepted definition of "pornography" in his usual manner. Perhaps he should withdraw from "our civilised Western Society" and join some order that espouses his rather remote-from-reality views?

From the Oxford on-line dictionary:
Definition of pornography
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printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement.

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Message 1336703 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 17:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 1336551.  

From the list of films that ID has published he has extended the accepted definition of "pornography" in his usual manner. Perhaps he should withdraw from "our civilised Western Society" and join some order that espouses his rather remote-from-reality views?

From the Oxford on-line dictionary:
Definition of pornography
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printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement.

Nice try, no cookie...

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Message 1336805 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 20:14:31 UTC

OK, so no cookie, but if that is not the correct definition of "pornography" then what is?


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Message 1336814 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 20:31:26 UTC - in response to Message 1336805.  

OK, so no cookie, but if that is not the correct definition of "pornography" then what is?



Not going there--at all.

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Message 1336823 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 20:42:56 UTC

Why not? - Is it we have reached the limits of your ability to reason, or are you just a coward not prepared to admit that you have no logical basis for your classifications?
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Message 1336835 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 20:57:03 UTC - in response to Message 1336823.  

Why not? - Is it we have reached the limits of your ability to reason, or are you just a coward not prepared to admit that you have no logical basis for your classifications?


Simply because I do not want to. Really don't give a damn what you think. Truly, don't really give a damn what you think.

The right to free speech even has it's limits in porn. Having sex with a beast would be one.

However, nothing ever done here or said by myself warranted actions done by others. Is it we have reached the limits of your ability to reason, or are you just a coward not prepared to admit that you have no logical basis for your classifications?
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Message 1336841 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 21:06:01 UTC

I would now classify you as "coward".
For your information, my definition of "pornography" goes along the lines: "material, printed, visual or audible, that is produced with the anticipation that it will produce a state of sexual arousal in its audience, or is of such a nature that it produces a state of sexual arousal in an unintended audience".

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Message 1336876 - Posted: 10 Feb 2013, 23:07:35 UTC

Oh, even the best pornographic pictures (of women) are being regarded as "obscene", aren't they?

Rather watch the birds and the bees.

Check out the title of the thread. What was in the original post?
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Message 1336948 - Posted: 11 Feb 2013, 5:14:08 UTC

I think the discussion has decidedly turned away from my original intent.
If it is not rerouted, I shall have the thread locked.


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Message 1336952 - Posted: 11 Feb 2013, 5:26:22 UTC - in response to Message 1335801.  

And start responding to crap from the ACLU and others who wish to disassociate this country from him?

I am personally getting rather fed up with the bullsh^t from those who say there is no place for God in this country's schools. It's not like they are spoon feeding these kids a Christian agenda. But acknowledging him in a passive way should not be a problem except for those anally implanted.

The separation of church and state does not mean that God cannot be recognized.
It simply means that the state should not specifically use it's means to promote religion, or one religion over another.

God has had a very large part of the founding of the United States of America.
Look over all the original documents, and you would be hard pressed to find many that do not mention him.

In God we trust.....or at least we used to.

I suggest to you, that the demise of God in this culture has led to many of it's current downfalls.

This is simply starting to irk me........ACLU seeks removal of Ohio school's Jesus portrait.

And what percentage of the US population does the freaking ACLU purport to speak for, anyway???


ADDENDUM...
I suppose the frickin' ACLU purports to speak for 100% of Americans......
I should rephrase the question to ask what percentage of the US population purports that the ACLU speaks for them?


Mark,

The ACLU says it speaks for the Constitution. I find that laughable.

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Message 1336953 - Posted: 11 Feb 2013, 5:28:40 UTC - in response to Message 1336952.  



Mark,

The ACLU says it speaks for the Constitution. I find that laughable.

I don't find it very amusing at all..........
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Message 1336955 - Posted: 11 Feb 2013, 5:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 1336061.  

I should rephrase the question to ask what percentage of the US population purports that the ACLU speaks for them?

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Message 1336956 - Posted: 11 Feb 2013, 5:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 1336077.  

The only separation of Church and state is the one that forbids one Church to fit all at the federal level. As I have said here before Jefferson held Anglican Service in the Halls of congress. FULL SERVICE, not just prayer.

So he rented the building BFD.

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