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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
So then, the moon is needed for life here in this rock? Climate change is good? Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
This thread is about SOLUTIONS to climate change, not denial, so let's get back solutions not denying that climate change is happening. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Somebody say something negative? I hate it when that happens. I have been showing everyone what causes climate change. That would be the moon, and our tilt in our axis. Everyone is up set about that change, this is evident by the nomenclature used, thay have asked for solutions. I don't see how my offering solutions to their problem can be called off topic. Bottom line---it is NOT off topic. I will ask again, is climate change needed for life on this rock, human life in particular? Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Somebody say something negative? I hate it when that happens. You would think the change in climate evolves with us at some point, the more we evolve together in close dialogue with nature and not destroying it, the more we will be 'educated' by nature in a good way. Imo that is rOZZ Music Pictures |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Somebody say something negative? I hate it when that happens. We have evolved with nature. You however are being disingenuous, this bothers me greatly and I ask you to stop. I have asked a direct question and I would like a direct answer to that question. The nomenclature used is 'climate change' the change is made up of 4 seasons, due in part to the moon and tilt in our axis. Is this a good thing for life and in particular human life? You would not believe how 'educated' by nature I am so I wont even start. But I am much more so then you, count on that. ;-) Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The answer depends on your timescale - billions of years then yes as we wouldn't be here with the climatic conditions that existed way back, but in the short (100's) no, we (and the whole eco-system we depend on for food etc.) can't change (evolve) fast enough to cope. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
If I was talking to you I would have used your name... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
You have obviously learned very little from nature, because otherwise you would have seen the changes that have occurred in our own life time, the changes when wild plants bloom, when migratory birds arrive, when birds nest, the variety of weather, the intensity and frequency of storms, the average seasonal temperatures - the list of evidence of climate change nature provides us with is endless, and we don't need to go very far to see these changes. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Please, by all means, avoid the question... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Somebody say something negative? I hate it when that happens. Hi ID - not my question I know :) Life definitely needs seasonal change (where those seasonal changes have been relatively constant over time) - and some life can adapt to a changing pattern in seasons if the change is gradual enough or of short duration. But I'm not sure the words: season, and; climate, are interchangeable? I understood the definition of climate to be an averaging of weather conditions over a period of time, with the standard averaging period being about thirty years. Perhaps that's why no one has answered your question to your satisfaction yet. I'll need to look a bit more thoroughly into how much the moon affects the world's climate - I know it affects tides and wind to varying degrees, but as you know I have a lot of homework to do on another thread :) so it could be awhile before I get to that - and I'm not sure which thread it would fit into once I've got the info :) |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Somebody say something negative? I hate it when that happens. Now I know what people mean when they say you're flaming the boards grmpf BTW If you were so 'educated' by nature you wouldn't do that in the first place Ever heard of megalomania ID? [last edit] Do you even know what the word disingenious means? rOZZ Music Pictures |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
I have been showing everyone what causes climate change. That would be the moon, and our tilt in our axis.No you haven't, leaving aside the fact that stating something does not equal proving something, the moon doesn't cause climate change. Nor is it responsible for the tilt in our axis, what it does do is stabilise the Earth to stop it wobbling around that tilt, so if anything, the moon prevents climate change. Everyone is up set about that change, this is evident by the nomenclature used, thay have asked for solutions. I don't see how my offering solutions to their problem can be called off topic. Bottom line---it is NOT off topic.Getting rid of the moon (apart from being a silly idea), is off-topic for the reason stated above. I will ask again, is climate change needed for life on this rock, human life in particular?Human beings are one of the most adaptable macro-life species on the planet, as evidenced by the fact we can survive at all latitudes from the poles to the plains of Africa. Even if some other species die out as a result of the planet warming, more will take their place, that's what evolution does. So whilst climate change may not be necessary for life to continue, i have no doubt that life will continue despite climate change. That answer your question? Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
I disagree with you both, very much. I simply aim to follow the rule of law in this thread. Climate change is achieved the tilt in out axis, and in part by our moon. If our moon is removed our planet moves on its axis in varying degrees. This would place many parts of our planet in what was only the equator zone. This is but one solution for climate change. Making fair what is unfair, stopping climate change. Leftist should love this idea. No one said you had to like it. Unlike what is being done to me, the government gun is not being held to your head with the government voice telling you that you must accept my solution. The Spanish Inquisition is not putting the thumb screws to you, or teaching your children in school my solution to climate change. Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
I apply 'I don't know.', to things I don't know. Don't ya know? Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
ID has a problem with the common, accepted, normal definitions of many words and would rather use his own inventions... Most of the time recently he had meant "seasons" when using the word climate... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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