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Interesting ... The vast majority of the guns in the database were confiscated because of illegal-possession charges. The vast majority guns were taken from otherwise law abiding citizens who were stopped for a traffic ticket and didn't have an unavailable concealed carry permit. "Assault weapons were rarely used in gun crimes even before the ban," he said in the report. No s*** Sherlock. They cost too damn much for the average street hoodlum to buy. Now I just wonder if someone will run the numbers to see if the ban drew attention to the weapons, making them more likely to be used in the ban than before because of the publicity concerning their effectiveness. Wouldn't that be sweet. :) ____________ | |
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Interesting ... I think you misread the story. The story only seems to point out that weapons with High Capacity magazines were more commonly confiscated after the ban was lifted. God bless Capitalism. It seems the ban was doing its job. preventing the illegal use of high capacity magazines by criminals and citizens alike ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school | |
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Interesting....... But we end up with situations like this. Not the first nor will it be the last unless some sensible regulations are enforced. | |
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Interesting....... No problem. As I have stated, I'll give up my assault ready weapons and 30 shot clips. But, you try to take my .45 stainless Ruger and it's 9 shot clip, and you, and many others, will have to answer for that. And it might not be an argument of words at that point. Do we have an agreement? I hope we do. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done. | |
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Interesting ... I think you didn't read deep enough. If the only charge is illegal-possession, then why are they criminal? The old adage, outlaw guns and then only outlaws will have guns, seems to apply. Now if they were taken off a criminal who was charged with some other crime, those weren't part of "the vast majority" which is important. Does this mean police are chasing down otherwise law abiding citizens to turn them into criminals because they are carrying a gun or failed to register it, and not chasing robbers, rapists and murderers? Is this how you want your tax dollars spent on police matters? Or are you saying police only stop people who are guilty of a crime? If so why do we even bother to have judges and juries? The database study doesn't apparently address a critical issue; the reason the police stopped the individual. If all stops were of parolees and felony suspects then there is a point to the data. If the stops were of people at random, e.g. traffic stops, then the data do not show a cause an effect relationship between criminal activity and high capacity magazines. What it shows is that honest people didn't get high capacity magazines, not that criminals didn't get high capacity magazines. ____________ | |
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It seems to me that there are at least four separate types of problems with firearm control. | |
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If we want to reduce the killings a broad approach will not work, these discrete problems require discrete solutions. We Already Have MILLIONS OF LAWS, REGULATIONS, PROCEDURES, etc. etc. etc. They Are Discrete. Where have they gotten US? Discrete Is A NO NO NO. NO WORKEE. BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA is The Only Way to Stop Humans From Being Human. Or. Something Put In The Air, Water, Food to make US Compliant. Or When Born, Doctors will Slip Something Into Our System To Make US Behave. Discrete? Laws? Regulations? All That Type Of Guv Rubbish? NO WAY. Society Shunning/Banning/Exiling US. NOPE It Will Have To Be A WORLDWIDE VOODOO CURSE OF GOODNESS. Poof! Done! HAPPY PILL CITY. PROFessor S. Say: Got White Rabbit? ____________ | |
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If we want to reduce the killings a broad approach will not work, these discrete problems require discrete solutions. A couple of points for the one who used to be a worm. We are people therefore we are not perfect but that does not mean we can not try to better. To do less is not the nature of the beast. I did not mention laws I do suggest new ideas are needed, you contributed none. You are a quitter. ____________ | |
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It seems to me that there are at least four separate types of problems with firearm control. Number one is education. Technology can only do so much. However, idiots are more ingenious than genius can plan for. Education will help, but some can't be taught; note this applies to 2, 3, and 4 as well. Number two is intractable. However if we get rid of drug laws, and other prohibitions e.g. prostitution, gambling, then we lessen at least one large driver of crime. Number three is simple. Ban the crazy. If there are no crazies on the street then there are no crazies shooting up schools. -- Sounds about the same as banning guns to accomplish the same thing. The thing to remember is a crazy can go off with a knife or a bomb as well as a gun. Control the crazy and get better results. Number four is two different problems. Organized crime isn't that different than street crime. Political organizations -- only terrorists if they fail -- aren't likely to be dissuaded. The only thing that can be done is better compromise is society. ____________ | |
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So, when The Shoot 'em Up Hollywood Movies are MADE IN NY(With Sandy Relief Monies), is there going to be A 7 SHOT CLIP/MAG LIMIT for the Blast Away Scenes between Good Guy and Bad Guy? You Know, Like The NEW LAW/REG Gov C. has implemented? | |
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Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns . | |
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Guy, I hope they don't find your hidden bunker. | |
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Guy, I hope they don't find your hidden bunker. I kinda hope they do.. but that aside I think we see the reason that at LEAST a certification of mental health is needed before firearms can be aquired. ____________ Janice | |
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... Ban the crazy? So crazy people are less than human and should be afforded no rights, no liberty? Should we go back to the Victorian era and lock them all away in asylums so no one has to look at them? Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? Mentally ill people are still people. Please try to remember that. ____________ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams | |
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Duck Hunting Shotgun Proven To Be more Dangerous Than A Huldra AR-15 . | |
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... Mental Disorders in America The National Institute of Mental Health, The Numbers Count: Mental Disorders in America | |
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Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? I didn't expect Godwin's law out of you Es? ____________ | |
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... I would recommend they be treated.. yes even forcibly if they present a threat. But of course that would fit well with a national health plan. Extended to cover mental health. ____________ Janice | |
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