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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Guy, I hope they don't find your hidden bunker. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
Guy, I hope they don't find your hidden bunker. I kinda hope they do.. but that aside I think we see the reason that at LEAST a certification of mental health is needed before firearms can be aquired. Janice |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
... Ban the crazy? So crazy people are less than human and should be afforded no rights, no liberty? Should we go back to the Victorian era and lock them all away in asylums so no one has to look at them? Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? Mentally ill people are still people. Please try to remember that. Reality Internet Personality |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 18996 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
... Mental Disorders in America The National Institute of Mental Health, The Numbers Count: Mental Disorders in America |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30593 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? I didn't expect Godwin's law out of you Es? |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
... I would recommend they be treated.. yes even forcibly if they present a threat. But of course that would fit well with a national health plan. Extended to cover mental health. Janice |
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Should not The People Surrounding Wyatt Earp, Today, been The Real Victims Of Firearm Crazyness? A bunch Of Young Black Men In Hoodies. They are dying at the rate of A Mass Killing A Week. Especially In Wyatt Earp's Home Of Chicago. Pitiful. Anyways, I Feel Safer Already. Don't You? Yepper, it is Small, Incremental, DISCRETE Steps needed For Our Safety. 23 Federal Today. States Chiming In(NY) with theirs. Soon Soon Soon, Duck and Cover, like In The Nuke Scares Of Yesteryear, will Be A Thang Of The Past. So, As Hustlin' Hussein, aka Wyatt Earp is Slowly Increasing Our Safety, maybe by Election Day 2016, The Gruesome Daily News, will Be History. We Can Only Hope, For The Change. PROFessor S. Say: High Noon Will Soon Be, Just Another Time For A Relaxing Drink and Tasty Meal. May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? So, you're saying Hitler (or Stalin) made no such attempts? Sorry, but most times, Godwin's Law probably applies. There are, however, times when the response is germane to the conversation. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? I was driven to it because what you were suggesting was so appalling...I am sure you are aware I wouldn't invoke a Hitler comparison lightly. Sometimes it is appropriate. Reality Internet Personality |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? P.S.-when I asked you a few weeks back or so what experience you had with the mentally ill, and you responded with passing by them on the streets often enough (though I wonder if homeless and drunk or whatever is enough to make that designation), I meant what experience with family members or friends suffering a mental illness (to whatever degree). |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? Personally I think there there is something very wrong with a society that would lock up innocent people for something they 'might' do rather than restrict access to guns. So much for land of the free. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30593 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Or better yet, shall we go the way of Hitler and get rid of the mentally infirm using a more permanent method? I simply replaced the word GUN with CRAZY in the strident calls for gun control I hear. You are right that the thought process behind such bans is appalling. I do see Obama addressed some of the Crazy recognition issues with his batch of orders. I also forgive you for not realizing in the USA how screwed up we are because of HIPAA and other such medical privacy laws in assessing crazies. Without the ability to share information -- never mind a requirement to do so -- on crazies it becomes impossible to evaluate them. Say there are 10 acts a person has done, but treated by 10 different professionals. Without the professionals permitted to share the 10 acts, each might assume that the person isn't crazy, just having a really bad day. Put them together and the picture may be "a clear and present danger to himself or others." That is the reason that it requires police action before many crazies are diagnosed and by the time the police become involved it is already too late. |
Karl-Heinz Send message Joined: 5 Dec 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 30,062 RAC: 0 |
This ID dude is seriously thinking that guys in the woods with guns are an army. yes that is the way people thinking in the US you absolute right!! |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Who would treat people as if they were guns? I am afraid I don't understand your analogy. I do see Obama addressed some of the Crazy recognition issues with his batch of orders. I also forgive you for not realizing in the USA how screwed up we are because of HIPAA and other such medical privacy laws in assessing crazies. Without the ability to share information -- never mind a requirement to do so -- on crazies it becomes impossible to evaluate them. Say there are 10 acts a person has done, but treated by 10 different professionals. Without the professionals permitted to share the 10 acts, each might assume that the person isn't crazy, just having a really bad day. Put them together and the picture may be "a clear and present danger to himself or others." That is the reason that it requires police action before many crazies are diagnosed and by the time the police become involved it is already too late. You really are seriously talking about legislating people and tracking them rather than legislating and tracking guns? Are you aware how bizarre that is? Reality Internet Personality |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 18996 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
How do you classify people as crazy? And if you do find a test that fits the hypothesis how will it work out? Go see if you can watch a BBC Horizon program called "Are you good or Evil" and see if you idea's are valid. I very much doubt it, you would end up locking up 1000's just to stop a couple of "crazies". Amongst those you would lock up would be "Captains of Industry" and Scientists. http://bilstonjay.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/bbc-horizon-are-you-good-or-evil-i-don%E2%80%99t-know-any-more-after-watching-your-documentary-maybe%E2%80%A6/ edit] Also go look up the warrior gene. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30593 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
You really are seriously talking about legislating people and tracking them rather than legislating and tracking guns? You want to lock guns up. Fine. Who gets the key? Suddenly we are back to people. It always has been about people. We might as well quit beating around the bush and accept that it is a people control/tracking issue. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30593 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
WK, if the titans of the Banks would have been locked up, then it sounds like it is sorting correctly. |
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