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Message 1315788 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 22:59:50 UTC

GTX 295 only used to run SETI. Tried Windows 7 Windows Experience Index (WEI) assessment. BSOD. Removed GTX 295 and installed GTX 570. WEI worked. Tried different GTX 295 and WEI worked. Tried GTX 295 in another computer and ran WEI - BSOD. After WEI, that GTX 295 did a BSOD while running SETI. Never overclocked. Cooling fins completely clean - dust-off and pipe cleaners. Cooling fan seems to work fine. Running fan at 100%. Any ideas or suggestions?
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Message 1315802 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 23:35:30 UTC - in response to Message 1315788.


Sounds like a faulty video card.
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Message 1315831 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 0:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 1315802.

ditch it and replace it with a newer video card...it is only going to create pain for you down track...


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Message 1315861 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 2:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 1315788.

GTX 295 only used to run SETI. Tried Windows 7 Windows Experience Index (WEI) assessment. BSOD. Removed GTX 295 and installed GTX 570. WEI worked. Tried different GTX 295 and WEI worked. Tried GTX 295 in another computer and ran WEI - BSOD. After WEI, that GTX 295 did a BSOD while running SETI. Never overclocked. Cooling fins completely clean - dust-off and pipe cleaners. Cooling fan seems to work fine. Running fan at 100%. Any ideas or suggestions?

It could be the heatsink compound needs replacing or it's just a bad old card...
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Message 1315865 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 2:44:07 UTC

Had another GTX 295 that was running hot. Replaced old heatsink compound with Artic Silver. Long messy job! When finished, it looks nice, but only one side works! Been in a parts box for almost a year. After these responses, I'm thinking about selling both of those defective GTX 295s on eBay with a clear label of "Broken, not working GTX 295" along with a description of everything I know that is wrong with them. Questions: is it wrong to sell problems to somebody else? How much to ask for both if sold separately?
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Message 1315877 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 5:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 1315865.

Had another GTX 295 that was running hot. Replaced old heatsink compound with Artic Silver. Long messy job! When finished, it looks nice, but only one side works! Been in a parts box for almost a year. After these responses, I'm thinking about selling both of those defective GTX 295s on eBay with a clear label of "Broken, not working GTX 295" along with a description of everything I know that is wrong with them. Questions: is it wrong to sell problems to somebody else? How much to ask for both if sold separately?

Not if You say 'as is' in the ad, just make sure You do mention what you do know to be true, don't speculate. Start at $0.99 and let them ride and no reserve, that just costs You more money from what I've heard.
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Message 1316213 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 21:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 1315865.

Had another GTX 295 that was running hot. Replaced old heatsink compound with Artic Silver. Long messy job! When finished, it looks nice, but only one side works! Been in a parts box for almost a year. After these responses, I'm thinking about selling both of those defective GTX 295s on eBay with a clear label of "Broken, not working GTX 295" along with a description of everything I know that is wrong with them. Questions: is it wrong to sell problems to somebody else? How much to ask for both if sold separately?

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some old tricks

1 take a #2 pencil with good eraser and clean the edge connectors on the card

2 remove heat sink,s and fan's clean both, if you do not has heat transfer cream

Valvoline will do for a temporary replacement for test.

3 take a magnifying glass and look at the high current solder connections on

the back of card i.e. the power connectors and traces if you see a ring the

connection is broken and needs to be re-soldered.

do not try to re-solder chips transistors or cap's unless you really know what

you are doing.

as to value the heat sink fan portion of the card looks to be worth about 100

dollars on ebay so selling the cards for parts should net you at least that.

also if after cleaning the edge connectors and repasteing the heat sink's

it still does not work a local electronic repair person may be able to help,it

usually cost little or nothing to have them look.working card here would mean

200 to 300 dollar instead of 100 dollars for parts.

As to is it ok to sell problems, if you mark the card not working for parts only

the person bidding knows it is broken and is betting he can fix x number of

cards out of the number of broken cards bought or can salvage enough to make

money, if he bets wrong that is his problem.

last option I take donations and have no nvidia cards:)

if I can help in any way feel free to e-mail me.


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Message 1316215 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 21:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 1316213.

Valvoline? That's oil, don't use that, use heatsink compound on heatsinks.
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Message 1316218 - Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 21:24:48 UTC
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Strip it down, place it in the oven at 400 degrees for 5 minutes. It has been known to work. Worked for me, a couple of times. Just make sure the capacitors are on the top. I made a boo boo on an ATI9000 and baked it too long with it upside down. It didn't work anyway, and it was just an ATI9000.... Also, check to see if the capacitors have bulging tops. It's really not that hard to replace them, on some cards.

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Message 1316374 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 9:27:18 UTC

heat sink compound has oil in it or it would be powder.

and I said temporary.

the point on heat sink compound is to maximize contact between 2 metal surfaces.

vaseline will be a thinner coating and while it liquefies at about 160 Fahrenheit

capillary action will keep it between the plates.

heat sink compound use to have a lot of silver in it but with silvers high price

vary little if any is in current heat sink compound this makes the new stuff less

effective.


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Message 1316376 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 9:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 1316218.

Strip it down, place it in the oven at 400 degrees for 5 minutes. It has been known to work. Worked for me, a couple of times. Just make sure the capacitors are on the top. I made a boo boo on an ATI9000 and baked it too long with it upside down. It didn't work anyway, and it was just an ATI9000.... Also, check to see if the capacitors have bulging tops. It's really not that hard to replace them, on some cards.

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while the solder will remelt at around 400 deg. fh this runs the risk of damaging

electrolytic capacitors on the board this is something you should only do after

you have decided the card is scrap any way.
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Message 1316478 - Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 18:39:29 UTC - in response to Message 1316374.


vaseline will be a thinner coating and while it liquefies at about 160 Fahrenheit
capillary action will keep it between the plates.



YES YES YES!! The main thing thermal compounds do (like 90%) is fill the not-so-smooth micro size gaps between G/CPU and HS/F. Vaseline really does work - I've used it for years on all my machines, including all my 24/7/365 crunchers with no problems at all. No rising temps over time either, as it really doesn't dry out or run out. And so much easier to clean up. (I like to play with my machines, and regular thermal paste is a royal pain to clean up). I was inspired by an article I read several years ago by an Aussie (Google "thermal goop" to find it).

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Message 1317331 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 21:31:17 UTC - in response to Message 1316213.

Thank you very much for such a detailed reply! This weekend, I will try most of these suggestions and send a report about any progress.
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