Panic Mode On (78) Server Problems?

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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7462 Credit: 39,755,116 RAC: 33,829	Message 1302086 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 1302085.
	I was just checking the same thing. Across 7 machines, the server thinks I've got more than 1500 tasks in progress. But I've actually got 91 - and almost all of those are because two machines have started getting lost tasks resent within the last hour.
	ID: 1302086 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3370 Credit: 25,961,384 RAC: 1,902	Message 1302088 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:35:44 UTC - in response to Message 1302073.
	Results ready to send is now 0 and 0, and scheduler contacts to Main and Beta are going through without problem, Claggy Not necessarily so. Take my host 5828732, which Sorry, i should have said scheduler contacts are going through more speedily when reporting only, trying to get the resends resent is still hit and miss, Claggy
	ID: 1302088 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 241 Credit: 19,141,032 RAC: 25,416	Message 1302090 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:40:27 UTC - in response to Message 1302086.
	I have one computer that has just over 400 tasks on it while the server thinks it has just short of 5,200........ It can not connect to the server and should I get that many tasks I will have to abort most of them because they will never finish in time. I do keep trying to connect but am unable to. I guess there is nothing I can do about this right now. ____________
	ID: 1302090 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,953 RAC: 6,273	Message 1302096 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:49:04 UTC
	Shortly the server will break from the ghost storm it is creating. It will run out of result storage space. Perhaps then Eric and or Jeff will take action. With Matt out I hope they have notes on the last time this happened. ____________
	ID: 1302096 ·

fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 41	Message 1302100 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:58:54 UTC - in response to Message 1302053.
	The tasks in progress is now showing 592 with only 1 completed completed task on the machine. Is there something I need to do? Or do I just sit back and wait for it to correct itself? this machine has only received 2 tasks in the last 18 hours. Wow..within minutes of posting this the machine actually got 20 "resent lost tasks" Hoping this is a sign of things to come, After getting the 20 resent task crunched and reported have not got anything else. since it appears the lost tasks are all for my GPU I set it to only use the gpu. however, instead of getting lost tasks resent it appears to try to send new tasks and the number of lost tasks is up to 701.
	ID: 1302100 ·

Filipe Send message Joined: 12 Aug 00 Posts: 72 Credit: 1,958,103 RAC: 6,504	Message 1302102 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 15:03:36 UTC
	What if some of us just suspend network contact with the seti server for maybe 12hours? It could help, since the server is hamerred with 1300queries/second. Most of witch are the same computers trying again an again to report or receive new tasks desesperately? ____________
	ID: 1302102 ·

Fred E. Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 436 Credit: 13,044,725 RAC: 35,868	Message 1302106 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 15:09:35 UTC
	What if some of us just suspend network contact with the seti server for maybe 12hours? It could help, since the server is hamerred with 1300queries/second. Most of witch are the same computers trying again an again to report or receive new tasks desesperately? I've gone NNT and will stay there for a day or two - have 2.75 days of CPU work and 5 days of gpu work, so I will wait it out. After my last post, I again received a new task rather than a lost task resend, so that's when I went NNT. If you suspend network operations, you can't report completions, and some folks crunch a second project (or more). ____________ Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web or shop online with GoodSearch and GoodShop
	ID: 1302106 ·

Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 19502 Credit: 21,204,523 RAC: 25,968	Message 1302119 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 15:35:10 UTC - in response to Message 1302102.
	What if some of us just suspend network contact with the seti server for maybe 12hours? It could help, since the server is hamerred with 1300queries/second. Most of witch are the same computers trying again an again to report or receive new tasks desesperately? Maybe a good idea. No server contact from me for the next 12 hours. ____________
	ID: 1302119 ·

fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 41	Message 1302139 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 16:36:47 UTC
	If I reset the project will it abort the lost tasks and resend them to me or someone else?
	ID: 1302139 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7462 Credit: 39,755,116 RAC: 33,829	Message 1302141 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 16:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 1302139.
	If I reset the project will it abort the lost tasks and resend them to me or someone else? No - reset applies to your local machine only. You would lose all the work you have managed to download (without telling the server anything). Exactly the opposite of what you're trying to achieve.
	ID: 1302141 ·

fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 41	Message 1302146 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 16:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 1302141.
	If I reset the project will it abort the lost tasks and resend them to me or someone else? No - reset applies to your local machine only. You would lose all the work you have managed to download (without telling the server anything). Exactly the opposite of what you're trying to achieve. Ok thanks. I didn't know what it did and therefore I asked the question.
	ID: 1302146 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7462 Credit: 39,755,116 RAC: 33,829	Message 1302148 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 16:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 1302146.
	I didn't know what it did and therefore I asked the question. Now that is exactly the right thing to do. So many click first, and ask questions afterwards...
	ID: 1302148 ·

chromespringer Send message Joined: 3 Dec 05 Posts: 247 Credit: 7,751,961 RAC: 13,852	Message 1302153 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 16:55:52 UTC
	11/4/2012 9:25:57 AM \| SETI@home \| update requested by user 11/4/2012 9:26:00 AM \| SETI@home \| Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 11/4/2012 9:26:00 AM \| SETI@home \| Reporting 8 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI 11/4/2012 9:31:10 AM \| SETI@home \| Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached 11/4/2012 9:31:13 AM \| \| Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/4/2012 9:31:14 AM \| \| Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11/4/2012 9:39:25 AM \| SETI@home \| Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11/4/2012 9:39:25 AM \| SETI@home \| Reporting 8 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI 11/4/2012 9:43:44 AM \| SETI@home \| update requested by user 11/4/2012 9:44:32 AM \| SETI@home \| Scheduler request failed: Timeout was reached 11/4/2012 9:44:36 AM \| \| Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11/4/2012 9:44:37 AM \| \| Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. well, that was a somewhat short-lived spurt LOL :) ____________
	ID: 1302153 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7462 Credit: 39,755,116 RAC: 33,829	Message 1302155 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 16:59:13 UTC - in response to Message 1302086.
	I was just checking the same thing. Across 7 machines, the server thinks I've got more than 1500 tasks in progress. But I've actually got 91 - and almost all of those are because two machines have started getting lost tasks resent within the last hour. My notional list of "work in progress" has gone up from 1,500 to 2,100 in the last two hours. Everything is getting set to NNT and staying there, until I see zero tasks ready to send AND the splitters disabled.
	ID: 1302155 ·

WendyR Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Aug 05 Posts: 44 Credit: 1,959,203 RAC: 1,988	Message 1302162 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 17:06:40 UTC - in response to Message 1302155.
	Will it get resends when on NNT?? My total is now closer to 300 "missing" tasks. ____________
	ID: 1302162 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3370 Credit: 25,961,384 RAC: 1,902	Message 1302163 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 17:09:51 UTC - in response to Message 1302162. Last modified: 4 Nov 2012, 17:11:52 UTC
	Will it get resends when on NNT?? My total is now closer to 300 "missing" tasks. No, not at this project, some projects like Einstein (which uses older server software) do get resends when NNT is set, with newer Server software resends only happen if you ask for work. Claggy
	ID: 1302163 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7462 Credit: 39,755,116 RAC: 33,829	Message 1302169 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 17:20:03 UTC
	Anybody got any idea whether we're being haunted by Astropulse ghosts, to the same degree? I think it's getting to the point that I need to put out an urgent APB, reluctant though I am to do so on a Sunday - just to get a lid put on the situation, until they can look at it tomorrow or Tuesday. The question is - is stopping the MB splitters enough, or should I ask them to stop AP as well? With splitters stopped, and no new work entering the system, we could allow work fetch and fish for resends of the work we've already supposedly got.
	ID: 1302169 ·

Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22809 Credit: 4,527,478 RAC: 5,489	Message 1302173 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 17:27:59 UTC
	There is only so much that can be done remotely on a Sunday morning. But you have enough experience to make a judgement call.
	ID: 1302173 ·

GaryG Send message Joined: 17 Mar 12 Posts: 8 Credit: 2,587,719 RAC: 68	Message 1302174 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 17:28:32 UTC - in response to Message 1302169.
	Anybody got any idea whether we're being haunted by Astropulse ghosts, to the same degree? I think it's getting to the point that I need to put out an urgent APB, reluctant though I am to do so on a Sunday - just to get a lid put on the situation, until they can look at it tomorrow or Tuesday. The question is - is stopping the MB splitters enough, or should I ask them to stop AP as well? With splitters stopped, and no new work entering the system, we could allow work fetch and fish for resends of the work we've already supposedly got. My vote would be to stop both. If most systems are like mine upwards of 900 tasks assigned but not received so there is plenty of work to run if we can get it. ____________
	ID: 1302174 ·

chromespringer Send message Joined: 3 Dec 05 Posts: 247 Credit: 7,751,961 RAC: 13,852	Message 1302175 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 17:29:31 UTC
	I'm showing over 5000 "in progress" with 0 work in BOINC Manager ____________
	ID: 1302175 ·

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