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Message 1299790 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 15:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 1299723.  

The HDD shows up as disc 0 unknown 931.15 GB not intialized. Then in the next box over says 931.Gb not allocated.

The drive shows up in device manager as working but I cant get to show up in the BIOS start up.

Ill try switching out the cables later.


Ok, if iit shows up in that control panel route, right click on it and inialize
it. At that point there are two options on how you want to inialize it. One
way is if you have files on that hard drive it will keep them. The other way
will format the drive, so of course you'll loose everything that was on it.
I am very sorry but I do not remember which is which. Hopefully it's a bare
drive so it won't matter.

As far as it showing up in your BIOS that really doesn't mater to much unless
you plan to use it as your boot drive at some point down the line. You will
get so spoiled to the SSD I don't see that happening, LOL!!

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Message 1299810 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 1299790.  

The HDD shows up as disc 0 unknown 931.15 GB not intialized. Then in the next box over says 931.Gb not allocated.

The drive shows up in device manager as working but I cant get to show up in the BIOS start up.

Ill try switching out the cables later.


Ok, if iit shows up in that control panel route, right click on it and inialize
it. At that point there are two options on how you want to inialize it. One
way is if you have files on that hard drive it will keep them. The other way
will format the drive, so of course you'll loose everything that was on it.
I am very sorry but I do not remember which is which. Hopefully it's a bare
drive so it won't matter.

As far as it showing up in your BIOS that really doesn't mater to much unless
you plan to use it as your boot drive at some point down the line. You will
get so spoiled to the SSD I don't see that happening, LOL!!



The HDD is empty so that wont matter. I want to use the SSD as my boot drive and the HDD for running SETI and other programs. Plus as back up.
I sure do like how fast that SSD loads .
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Message 1299817 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:33:38 UTC

What im trying now is I unpugged my SSD and am doing an insatll on my HDD it is installing now. I hope that works.
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Message 1299819 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:35:30 UTC - in response to Message 1299810.  

Good deal. Then go ahead and inialize it with the format. After that you should
be good to go!! In that same control panel is where you can change your drive
letters if that is important to you. I am a stickler for everything to be as
I feel it should, even though I know it does not matter, LOL!! I.E. boot drive
named "C", storage drive named "D", DVD/CD/Blue Ray drives, "E", "F" ect., ect.
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Message 1299827 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:43:28 UTC - in response to Message 1299817.  

What im trying now is I unpugged my SSD and am doing an insatll on my HDD it is installing now. I hope that works.


With Windows 7 you can do a complete back up to your storage drive.

Start/ Control Panel/ Backup and Restore.

Just follow the screen promts. You'll just need to make a boot disk that will
allow you to boot your computer to get to that back up copy. You don't really
have to do a complete install to your back up hard drive unless you just want
to. In fact simce it doesn't show up in your BIOS I would think it would be
just a waste of your time. But then again it's a l earning thing as well.
Might help you in the future.
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Message 1299831 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 16:46:25 UTC

Well lets hope after it gets formatted that HDD gets recognized. I will name it just so I know what it is.

Do I have to type in the license key again? and The SSD will be the boot, But how do I make all other downloads go to the HDD? LIke SETI for instance. As soon as all tasks finish I will move the files from the boot to the HDD. I hope any way.
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Message 1299838 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 17:02:40 UTC
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It shows my HDD now. BUT it shows the SSD as two drives C and E . the E shows as system reserve.

The dvd shows as D and the Hdd as F.

Well I quess you cant win them all on a new build. And seeing this is my first one and I didnt know squat about doing it, A little hard drive problem is ok i quess:)

Edit-I think MY mistake was watching the newegg guy when he did the installing. He unplugged his HDD and just did the SSD. Then plugged in the HDD and did that.
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Message 1299867 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:15:57 UTC

Yes, any time you do a clean install unplugging any other hard drives is the
best way to go. That way Windows can not put any files on the other hard
drive. If you leave any other drives but the boot during the install you can
not later remove the other hard drive. Because Windows puts important files
on it even though you didn't want it to.

Yes, if you do a full install on your back up drive you will have to re-key in
your license. Another reason to just do the backup through the control panel.
Might be more trouble than what you want to do, because it doesn't matter your
system will run fine. But I would unplug the back up drive and do a complete
re-install on your boot drive. Again, you don't have to but it might avoid
future comlications.

Rename the drives how ever you want through the control panel I first told you
about.

It's all a learning curve. But you get to tell everybody you built your system
yourself. And you got to set it up just how you wanted. Far better I.M.O.
than buying a system!!

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Message 1299868 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:18:04 UTC - in response to Message 1299838.  

During the Windows 7 setup phase, it should have listed all drives for which hard drive controllers it recognized. At this point is when you can initialize and format all drives, then select the one you want to install the OS on.


If you only saw the SSD during Windows 7 setup, or only choose to initialize/install on that drive, the hard drive would have remained a "raw" drive with no file system. In that case, using Disk Management to initialize the drive is the best way to go (as was mentioned).

During the OS installation, it actually creates to partitions, the OS disk and the system reserve/recovery partition required for many of Windows 7's built-in recover tools. This is why you see two partitions on the SSD. If you boot off the SSD, you will see two partitions on the HDD too (but the system reserve partition for the SSD will remain hidden like it's supposed to).


I gotta say James, installing Windows 7 twice just to format the other drive is doing things the hard way. ;)
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Message 1299880 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 1299868.  

During the Windows 7 setup phase, it should have listed all drives for which hard drive controllers it recognized. At this point is when you can initialize and format all drives, then select the one you want to install the OS on.


If you only saw the SSD during Windows 7 setup, or only choose to initialize/install on that drive, the hard drive would have remained a "raw" drive with no file system. In that case, using Disk Management to initialize the drive is the best way to go (as was mentioned).

During the OS installation, it actually creates to partitions, the OS disk and the system reserve/recovery partition required for many of Windows 7's built-in recover tools. This is why you see two partitions on the SSD. If you boot off the SSD, you will see two partitions on the HDD too (but the system reserve partition for the SSD will remain hidden like it's supposed to).


I gotta say James, installing Windows 7 twice just to format the other drive is doing things the hard way. ;)

Yeah I have to agree. And here I thought the hardware was going to be ther scary part. Turns out the software is doing me in. Well you cant be a jedi knight untill you build a light sabre.

last quetsion for today . Can I just move the BOINC files to the HDD and start running them?
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Message 1299882 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:46:59 UTC - in response to Message 1299880.  

Yes. just make sure you note the location you've moved them to and then point the BOINC installer to that same location as the data directory.
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Message 1299886 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:53:01 UTC - in response to Message 1299882.  

And how do I do that?
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Message 1299889 - Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 18:55:40 UTC - in response to Message 1299886.  

When installing BOINC, it will show you the two default locations of the program directory and the data directory, and they are grayed out until you press the Advanced button in the lower right-hand corner. Once you press the button, you'll be able to modify the location of the data directory - point it to wherever you save the data directory on your hard drive.
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Message 1300269 - Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 17:01:26 UTC

I mucked that up and ended up aborting 95 WU's, OOoops.

The new build is doing work though. Just on CPU. I havent installed the EVGA 550Ti as it wont run stock and Lunatics is still doing the legal dance.

I can wait, Be a good bench mark on what that I7 3770 can do running by itself.
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Message 1300280 - Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 17:40:47 UTC

If I read this correct you can use your 550 with the stock app. You'll just
need to tell your system to not turn off the screen.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69735

Start / Control Panel / Power Options / Choose when to turn off display / Never


Then all you have to do is actually power off your screen when you are not
using it. Your video card won't know it's actually turned off so it should
keep working.
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Message 1300342 - Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 19:55:12 UTC

I havent installed the EVGA 550Ti as it wont run stock and Lunatics is still doing the legal dance.
If I read this correct you can use your 550 with the stock app. You'll just
need to tell your system to not turn off the screen.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69735


James, I agree your 550TI can run the stock apps. It's the 6xx cards that have the problem with the stock application and need the environmental variable or the 301 driver. Also, you won't have the sleep bug if you avoid the 295.xx and 296.xx drivers, so you dont need to fix the monitor turnoff setting if you are using another driver. The sleep bug was fixed for the 300 series drivers. Think I've read that fermi cards run better on the older drivers - maybe 285 or something.
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Message 1300395 - Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 23:40:10 UTC - in response to Message 1299493.  

Now I dont know what to do now that im there. I think I have to select the dvd to boot .


Is the SSD already formatted? I've experienced this, it wasn't recognized by
BIOS.
(IMHO, this shouldn't be necesarry).


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Message 1300473 - Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 7:53:48 UTC - in response to Message 1300395.  

My SSD was not formatted and BIOS on a HP laptop recognized it immediately. I loaded on it a SuSE Linux 12.2 and it works 24/7, with very little heat.
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Message 1300732 - Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 16:24:19 UTC

I found one reason to build your own that I never had thought of. You dont get the tons of preloaded crapware that is on a commercial rig.
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Message 1300733 - Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 16:28:39 UTC - in response to Message 1300732.  

I found one reason to build your own that I never had thought of. You dont get the tons of preloaded crapware that is on a commercial rig.

LOL...so true. Only the crapware one chooses to load.
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