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Message 1284941 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1284940.

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Message 1284946 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:20:46 UTC - in response to Message 1284941.

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Was very very serious. The way the world is heading, a "Hard Cold Reboot" is required.
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Message 1284947 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:31:02 UTC
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21st December 2012 the fuse is lit?
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Message 1284952 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 1284947.

so other than armegeddon you guys don't feel a meaningful dialog can develop to get both sides to come to an understanding.

1) the US has freedom of speech. regardless of how tasteless it is. Generally speaking,(honey boo boo aside and toddlers in tiaras) things in poor taste are generally discarded by this society very quickly. That is the glory of free speech. YOu can say but if nobody cares or listens nobody is hurt.

2) get your facts be for you acts(needed the "s" to rhyme). As we've seen many times in recent years the mideast and arab states seem to be spoiling for a good riot. screw logic or reason lets tear crap up.

3) I know for a fact there are good and honest people everywhere that are appalled not just by the video but the unnecessary and gratuitous violence that occurred. These people need to be heard and they need to step forward and demand peace.
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Message 1284953 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:41:11 UTC

seems to be a lot of religious people hating each other out there


SkilDUDe: I've seen plenty of Your Hate displayed here on This Message Board.

You and Kittyman have shown the Most Hate of any posters I have read.

So, watch The Vid and Love The Hate. It will make You Feel Good.

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Message 1284957 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:53:15 UTC - in response to Message 1284953.

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Message 1284958 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:55:23 UTC - in response to Message 1284953.
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I'm not a hater. I'm a believer in truth and Justice.

I'm also not looking at myself as a solution. I'm not one to step forward for fear of lacking followers. I like to muse and amuse. I would hope you'd see the difference between idle chitchat and searching for a solution.

Quite frankly I am a bit taken aback. I'm being as thoughtful and considerate as possible to a sensitive subject. What more can you ask of me.

Forgive me for I have offended thee. Though I don't know you, nor you me. You see me as a threat or a problem. I am neither. I wish to lead my life as I choose and my wish is for you to lead yours as you choose. I do not wish to diminish nor deny someones need express themselves as long as I am allowed to express myself in kind. I have never found violence as a solution to any problem. If more people would think down these lines life could be a little simpler and perhaps quieter.
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Message 1284959 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 1284952.

So getting Muslim leaders demanding that we respect Islam while they continue to ignore our customs, laws & regulations while bending over backwards to kiss their asses is alright then?

define "Support"

Track Down? no need! its well noted he's in the USA - going to behead him then?

Ooops, we better be careful hadn't we? The muslims own the oil!
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Message 1284965 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 21:10:39 UTC - in response to Message 1284959.
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Nice pics. I bet every last one of the idiots protestign and burning flags was paid to do so. It's a well known gimic. lets not put to much weight to it.

No, Muslim leaders such as those found in Iran are nothing more than oligarchy. The they command but do not specifically rule. The people have no power in those situations.

What 1 thing brought about the arab awakening. peaceful protest. In Egypt, when the peaceful demonstrators for people attempting to incite riots in the crowds they immediately removed the provocatours. the same in Tunisia.

The people took power through peaceful protests. Demanding change for good.

Lets not forget that most of the middle east(egypt, libya, tunisia, lebanon, jordan, Iraq, Iran(the people not the gov't) all want us to be around.

What we do takes decades to finish but the biggest thing is educating everyone(men and women) in these countries. Education is the tool that provides exponential dividends in the end. If you paid any attention you'd find that educated islamic people are less likely to be terrorist or allow their children to be one. It also decreases birth rates and gives children a healthier childhood.

Simply put an education is a gift that just keeps giving.
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Message 1284968 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 21:19:39 UTC - in response to Message 1284965.

Nice pics. I bet every last one of the idiots protestign and burning flags was paid to do so. It's a well known gimic. lets not put to much weight to it.

No, Muslim leaders such as those found in Iran are nothing more than oligarchy. The they command but do not specifically rule. The people have no power in those situations.

What 1 thing brought about the arab awakening. peaceful protest. In Egypt, when the peaceful demonstrators for people attempting to incite riots in the crowds they immediately removed the provocatours. the same in Tunisia.

The people took power through peaceful protests. Demanding change for good.

Lets not forget that most of the middle east(egypt, libya, tunisia, lebanon, jordan, Iraq, Iran(the people not the gov't) all want us to be around.

What we do takes decades to finish but the biggest thing is educating everyone(men and women) in these countries. Education is the tool that provides exponential dividends in the end. If you paid any attention you'd find that educated islamic people are less likely to be terrorist or allow their children to be one. It also decreases birth rates and gives children a healthier childhood.

Simply put an education is a gift that just keeps giving.


Agree with that 100% but there is & has been an underlying issue with Islam: -

Isn't it about time that these "educated" people finally speak up & condemn what is being done in their name?

Most of my customer base is Muslim & fairly recently, several of them while here brought up bin laden & wanted my views (they were in a very argumentive mood): -
I shut them up instantly by the following remark:-

"bin Laden was living smack bang next door to a major Pakistani Military base" Explain that!

Political & religious discussions ended & we got back to talking about their computer issues.
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Message 1284974 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 21:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 1284968.

I wonder if stagnation has caused this resentment in arabic lands.

IIRC the muslims that invaded Spain brought with them Greek texts that described algebra and mathematics the Christian world had never seen. Their archtechture was second to none.

Let's also not forget 3 crusades into their lands and subjugation by brits led to a bit of animosity.
It was the Crusaders that showed their barbarism when they couldn't negotiate a ransom for prisoners. Killing all their prisoner.

Muslims have a good reason to mistrust us. why feed a waiting fire.

Think about this. If the Crusaders would have asked permission to visit and setup churches in the holy lands, they probably would have been accepted. The Pope Chose to fight for the lands. THis is typical prewar behavior. never talk always spoil for a fight. Most fights can be avoided just by talking.
but there I go again explaining what everyone knows is true
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Message 1284981 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 22:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 1284974.

What's past is past...time they headed into the 21st century!
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Let's also not forget 3 crusades into their lands and subjugation by brits led to a bit of animosity. It was the Crusaders that showed their barbarism when they couldn't negotiate a ransom for prisoners. Killing all their prisoner.

The Pope Chose to fight for the lands. THis is typical prewar behavior. never talk always spoil for a fight


LET'S MAKE A MOVIE! About the 1300 Years of European/American/Christian Hate against The Muslim/Arab/Islamic World. Only show The Horror of this Hate. Totally about/slanted in Favor of The Islamists. Be sure to show only The Beauty Of The Koran and The HATE of the Old World/New World/Christians. WE MUST SHOW THE TRUTH. Let me say right now, I AM SORRY FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO YOU.

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Message 1284987 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 22:38:34 UTC - in response to Message 1284981.

What's past is past...time they headed into the 21st century!

OH NO!! It is all about what your great great great ... great great grand daddy did to my great great great ... great great grand daddy and how you blood line is corrupt and every person with your DNA must die for the offense. We will not accept that you are a completely different person. (If we did we couldn't line our pockets with cash and live the life of Riley.)
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Message 1284991 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 22:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 1284987.

Bejasus, I forgot about him....

now if only that was Oil & not Food
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Message 1284999 - Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 23:48:58 UTC - in response to Message 1284991.

Much ado about nothing. Video still going viral. Google will not remove the trailer. Trailer was removed in Libya.

Trailer still online.


'Innocence of Muslims' Trailer [HD]
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Message 1285154 - Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 14:20:46 UTC

So back to the point. How do we communicate that not one of us allowed this so-called movie to happen. An idiot with an agenda did.

Michael Moore was right you know. We should send Film of the nonviolent protests and sit down strikes that got us through a civil rights battle. If they want to get the message out then stop burning, looting, and killing innocent people. To succeed non violence is the only means available that will get your point across and garner international empathy. I don't think anyone can empathise with mayhem because you feel offended by a movie
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Message 1285186 - Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 15:51:36 UTC

Stupidity on stupidity.

Stupid idea to make the movie, but it is only a movie even though it was designed to inflame and be offensive. A really dumb thing to do in this climate.

Stupid people then rioting over stupid movie... and rioting at the wrong people.

This is what happens when you get a whole load of stupid together.

It only takes one or two stupid people to make everyone else look bad.
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Message 1285187 - Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 15:53:29 UTC - in response to Message 1284982.

Let's also not forget 3 crusades into their lands and subjugation by brits led to a bit of animosity. It was the Crusaders that showed their barbarism when they couldn't negotiate a ransom for prisoners. Killing all their prisoner.

The Pope Chose to fight for the lands. THis is typical prewar behavior. never talk always spoil for a fight


LET'S MAKE A MOVIE! About the 1300 Years of European/American/Christian Hate against The Muslim/Arab/Islamic World. Only show The Horror of this Hate. Totally about/slanted in Favor of The Islamists. Be sure to show only The Beauty Of The Koran and The HATE of the Old World/New World/Christians. WE MUST SHOW THE TRUTH. Let me say right now, I AM SORRY FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO YOU.

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I remember a big fuss about "The life of Brian". Stupidity knows no race/class/religion. It's an equal opportunity endowment.
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Message 1285195 - Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 16:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 1285187.

I remember a big fuss about "The life of Brian". Stupidity knows no race/class/religion. It's an equal opportunity endowment.

True but there was no rioting in the streets or bombing of British embassies over the "Life of Brian".

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