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Message 1315186 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 18:30:46 UTC

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Message 1315226 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:40:35 UTC
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Free people own firearms. Slaves don't.

Firearms do not kill. People do, mentally unstable or not.
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Message 1315229 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 1315226.  

Free people own firearms. Slaves don't.

Firearms do not kill. People do, mentally unstable or not.

You are not free if you are shackled to your gun.
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Message 1315232 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:48:50 UTC

Absolutely shocking. Personally, I think that all schools should be totally locked down & secure - before any politico pops up & states that it will be too costly, just think on this: -

with all $$$ wasted on campaign elections, all the $$$ not paid due to tax evasion/avoidance, all the $$$$ wasted on military expenditure....

..children should be protected 100% for the simple reason is that they are the future!
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Message 1315234 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:49:47 UTC

If firearms kill people spoons make people fat!

Twenty-two primary school children were wounded in a knife attack Friday in central China.

The Israelies arm their teachers.
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Message 1315235 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:50:57 UTC - in response to Message 1315232.  

Absolutely shocking. Personally, I think that all schools should be totally locked down & secure - before any politico pops up & states that it will be too costly, just think on this: -

with all $$$ wasted on campaign elections, all the $$$ not paid due to tax evasion/avoidance, all the $$$$ wasted on military expenditure....

..children should be protected 100% for the simple reason is that they are the future!


Amen!
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Message 1315236 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:53:47 UTC

<RANT> I just had a chance to sit down at work and catch up on some news when I read about what had happened in Conn. This morning and my heart goes out to those kids. And after further reading, I came across this story as well. It happened today, but across the globe in China. Man with slashes 22 kids in elementary school. I haven't heard a single thing about this, in fact it was reported by an obscure eatern US newspaper, not CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, BBC, or Fox.

This isn't a gun issue, or a knife issue or a frakking stick issue for that matter. This is clearly a PEOPLE issue. I've scanned the posts on this thread and have seen nothing but bickering about the same moot points. People kill people, folks. I have yet to see a knife or a gun jump up and kill anything much less move unless in the hands of a person. You can argue that if there weren't any guns, there'd be less murder. WRONG! Humans, if anything else are masters at killing things in one way or another. </RANT>
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Message 1315244 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 20:15:27 UTC - in response to Message 1315236.  

Bill, how about all those Taliban that go into girls schools and blow them up? Why don't they get press coverage?

We have a problem world wide that crazy people are enabled to do horrible things. It doesn't matter why they are crazy either. Put them in a rubber room and weld the door shut or grow some cojones and reduce their carbon use to zero.

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Message 1315256 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 22:01:35 UTC

President Obama has just given a very emotional speech. Impressive.


Nothing Impressive about a man in charge of the UGLIEST, MOST NEGATIVE Election Campaign in History.

Could be said Hustlin' Hussein's NEGATIVITY Against His Opponent and The GOP has added to The Sickness of Any Killer's Decision to Do Harm.

DEMON...HOT As HELL

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1315263 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 22:16:32 UTC

His little talk was just political theater.

Never let a crisis go to waist.......
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Message 1315269 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 22:22:46 UTC

Latest on BBC says the two kids taken to hospital have both died.

N.B. for I.D. - Waist is where you have your belt, the word you are looking for is Waste.
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Message 1315270 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 22:23:54 UTC

The "people kill people not guns, knifes, swords, sticks etc" argument is correct.

However if you want the right to bear arms then you have to be able to accept that this sort of thing will happen. Brutal by true, unbalanced people in a civilised country that allows weapon ownership will be able to purchase guns and use them like we saw today. If you support bearing arms get over the bloody massacre and get on with your life. Please don't justify it here just accept it can and will happen again.

Even in the UK we have seen Dunblane, Hungerford and more recently the Cumbria shootings. Nowhere is really safe from a madman, but a gun bearing society makes it just that little bit easier.
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Message 1315307 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 23:19:10 UTC - in response to Message 1315270.  

The "people kill people not guns, knifes, swords, sticks etc" argument is correct.

However if you want the right to bear arms then you have to be able to accept that this sort of thing will happen. Brutal by true, unbalanced people in a civilised country that allows weapon ownership will be able to purchase guns and use them like we saw today. If you support bearing arms get over the bloody massacre and get on with your life. Please don't justify it here just accept it can and will happen again.

Even in the UK we have seen Dunblane, Hungerford and more recently the Cumbria shootings. Nowhere is really safe from a madman, but a gun bearing society makes it just that little bit easier.

Without a gun, you end up chasing everyone after the first one.


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Message 1315322 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 0:01:21 UTC

If you support bearing arms get over the bloody massacre and get on with your life. Please don't justify it here just accept it can and will happen again


I am An American. A U.S. Born Citizen. With Papers to Prove.(I Lived In Germany, because of The NSA. Not Born There).

I Support Gun Ownership. And Believe there should be More Of It.

I Don't Justify. I Accept. I Deal.

I Owned Guns Before. Don't Now. Wish I Had Some Now. Don't Plan On Buying in Future, but May Do So.

The Area I Live In, battled For The Honor(SICK) of Murder Capital Of The US, awhile back. Less Killings Now. Much Less.

However, I hear gunshots on an Almost Daily Basis. Shooting into The Air? I suppose.

Anyways.

Mother said to her children last week, when asked if it can happen here, One In A Zillion.

So It Goes.

DEMON...12-21-2012 HOT or Not

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1315328 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 0:17:32 UTC

Here, you have the USAs greatest thinkers.
They do not say things that have already been said, and most certainly not arguments along party lines.
Which is why they have already solved the problems.
And today did not happen.
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Message 1315364 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 1:18:36 UTC

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And the China incident with a man wielding a knife?
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Message 1315377 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 1:37:25 UTC
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It is my opinion that I have the right to defend myself. In my opinion it is a God given right.

How has the war on drugs worked out for us?

Every time there is a lack of morals/ethics we have a war on some thing that cost the tax payer a huge amount of money. Lets get this straight, IT IS A LACK MORALS/ETHICS by the very same people who raise these kids, not the drugs, guns or knives.

The only questions that remain is who is going to correct this problem? The nanny state who takes your money and makes the problem worse, not better. OR YOU, WHO MADE THEM KIDS AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UPBRINGING?

Every law that is made is a attempt to legislate morality. Make no mistake this is a truthful statement. Who's morality is it that you wish to abide by? Who's ethics do YOU wish to be FORCED on you?

You have my opinion, it is God's morality I accept. This is what I teach and this is what I accept. I will not accept anything less. And I will not have anything more added. God is more then enough and it is clear in the law handed to us by our founders and framers. I ACCEPT THAT THERE IS EVIL IN THE WORLD. I fight it every day within myself. It starts as a seed, and I 99% of the time beat it by never watering it. This young man who killed them little one's watered it and it was missed by HIS FOLKS, friends and everyone down the line. Our fault? No. His fault---YES!!!!! The firearms fault---that is a dumb argument.

Fight evil by simply asking-----May I help you? Repeat yourself if need be-many times if need be. In your heart of hearts you know...you know. It's evil and you know, it CAN'T be missed, you can see it in their eyes. I've seen true evil, it can't be missed....

May I help you?
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Message 1315407 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 2:54:58 UTC

Every time a tragedy like this happens, both sides of the gun control issue will USE it to argue their case.

I, for one, will not further discuss my views in the face of this unbelievable time of sorrow.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1315409 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 2:59:02 UTC

“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

― Jeff Cooper, Art of the Rifle
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