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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,156,445 RAC: 866	Message 1239077 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:01:08 UTC
	If they didn't have more notice, than I can understand that. Because how it happened was more like "oh by the way, in an hour we'll be down for days..." ;-) ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
	ID: 1239077 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 5416 Credit: 20,210,578 RAC: 123,398	Message 1239079 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:02:42 UTC
	There was certainly a hint of panic in Matt's announcement - "Going down about 90 minutes after I post this". The vague description he gave suggests to me that this was the campus maintenance men knocking on the door, saying things like "Turn it off NOW"... ____________ Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
	ID: 1239079 ·

Ageless Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 11633 Credit: 1,986,632 RAC: 4,179	Message 1239081 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:03:35 UTC - in response to Message 1239072.
	(And, I still don't quite understand why the forum's servers have anything to do with the scientific servers....... I think it's kind of- erm - dinosaurish that the forums have to go down for scientific maintenance) It's a backup of the databases that they make on Tuesdays. The BOINC forums run with the same data from the BOINC database that keeps track of your credits etc. So when they make a full backup of this one, they take the databases off line (primary and secondary) to be sure that they won't corrupt anything. Other projects may be able to do their maintenance and backups on the fly, but then they usually have large servers as well (Einstein). In retrospect, WCG goes down for a couple of hours every evening! And then there's projects which make a backup once every month or so, which means that when something does go wrong with them, you'll have lost credit and lots of posts. ____________ Jord - BOINC FAQ Service - BOINC User Wiki Real is just a matter of perception.
	ID: 1239081 ·

Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,156,445 RAC: 866	Message 1239085 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:05:47 UTC Last modified: 31 May 2012, 20:06:15 UTC
	I figured it had something to do with the credit system Jord. Just too bad they can't "disconnect" the forums from the system, during the outage. And on that note, I try to remind myself we are here to help them, not the other way around. ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
	ID: 1239085 ·

Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2665 Credit: 1,502,236 RAC: 1,277	Message 1239091 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:10:20 UTC
	I finally managed to get info regarding this last outage via the Lunatics web site. I was surprised that none of the Boinc sites had any info at all regarding Seti being down? Berkeley. edu made no mention of seti having any problems, to my mind this was a very poor public relation failure. Berkeley University should be our first point of contact when looking for info regarding any problems with the seti project. So, can our project leaders use this universities web site as a means of keeping us all in touch when the seti/ boinc systems go down. ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
	ID: 1239091 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 3360 Credit: 25,948,202 RAC: 1,353	Message 1239110 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:39:35 UTC - in response to Message 1238961.
	Hosts with Boinc 6.12.x and Boinc 7.0.x should get a notice about the power outage, But my Boinc 7.0.28 equiped Laptop has yet to receive it, hopefully it'll get it in the next 24 hours!! Claggy
	ID: 1239110 ·

Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 2665 Credit: 1,502,236 RAC: 1,277	Message 1239114 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 20:49:31 UTC - in response to Message 1239110.
	Hosts with Boinc 6.12.x and Boinc 7.0.x should get a notice about the power outage, But my Boinc 7.0.28 equiped Laptop has yet to receive it, hopefully it'll get it in the next 24 hours!! Claggy Nope, I didn't get a message from boinc either!! ____________ The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
	ID: 1239114 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10313 Credit: 5,067,439 RAC: 6,385	Message 1239133 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 21:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 1239114.
	Hosts with Boinc 6.12.x and Boinc 7.0.x should get a notice about the power outage, But my Boinc 7.0.28 equiped Laptop has yet to receive it, hopefully it'll get it in the next 24 hours!! Claggy Nope, I didn't get a message from boinc either!! You will be waiting forever. It wouldn't have done any good anyway. Very short notice to the lab before the normal outage. The notice tab can't be updated then because the servers are off line. Yes the 90 minutes after the normal outage and the power problem, but how many of you would have requested work successfully in that 90 minutes? With the new request system 7.xx, it can be days between requests for the vast majority of participants. So the notice on the home page -- home page is reachable in the normal outage -- was the best way to get the word out. MORAL --- Always check the home page first! ____________
	ID: 1239133 ·

Eric Korpela Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 952 Credit: 5,642,141 RAC: 5,204	Message 1239166 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 22:51:05 UTC - in response to Message 1239133.
	It turns out that there are two mechanisms for sending "Notices" to the BOINC client. Apparently one of them has stopped working, or never worked for us. I've enabled the other mechanism. Next time your BOINC client gets an update from SETI@home you'll see some old messages. If we fix the broken mechanism you might start seeing double messages, at which point I'll disable one. ____________
	ID: 1239166 ·

Roger Martinez Send message Joined: 23 Mar 12 Posts: 3 Credit: 52,158 RAC: 164	Message 1239169 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 23:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1232771. Last modified: 31 May 2012, 23:09:01 UTC
	Thank you for the message, Standing by......R
	ID: 1239169 ·

VETERANS-GAMING Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 707,373 RAC: 71	Message 1239197 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 0:25:06 UTC - in response to Message 1232771.
	Bummer man! Glad you're back up. Thanks for the update. VG www.veterans-gaming.com
	ID: 1239197 ·

Enzeder Send message Joined: 30 Jan 01 Posts: 6 Credit: 10,951,455 RAC: 31,715	Message 1239204 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 0:39:48 UTC - in response to Message 1239075.
	See the word "HOME" in the upper left. Press it. It will take you to the notice posted at 17:11:12 UTC that there was an outage in the works. That notice was up from then until the system was taken down. And it was up all the time the maintenance outage was going on. Nope. There is no "HOME" button when the website is offline. I wasn't talking about maintenance, I was talking about the power outage yesterday and the day before. No power = no website (as the news item on the homepage states). And I don't have the time to hit the SETI homepage every hour in the hopes of catching updates like that. As such I didn't have a cached page to stare at either. Once I noticed work units stacking up I went to investigate, but found no website. Wondered if SETI@home went down the same path as the Allen Telescope Array. I stumbled upon the answer at BOINCstats - and they had used the Google cached page of SETI@home to get the update. Because the website was down. Because there was no power. Hence no "HOME" button. ____________
	ID: 1239204 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10313 Credit: 5,067,439 RAC: 6,385	Message 1239229 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 1:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 1239204.
	See the word "HOME" in the upper left. Press it. It will take you to the notice posted at 17:11:12 UTC that there was an outage in the works. That notice was up from then until the system was taken down. And it was up all the time the maintenance outage was going on. Nope. There is no "HOME" button when the website is offline. I wasn't talking about maintenance, I was talking about the power outage yesterday and the day before. No power = no website (as the news item on the homepage states). And I don't have the time to hit the SETI homepage every hour in the hopes of catching updates like that. As such I didn't have a cached page to stare at either. Once I noticed work units stacking up I went to investigate, but found no website. Wondered if SETI@home went down the same path as the Allen Telescope Array. I stumbled upon the answer at BOINCstats - and they had used the Google cached page of SETI@home to get the update. Because the website was down. Because there was no power. Hence no "HOME" button. Normally you should look here if you can't reach any projects home page. However because of this, which isn't normal, it wouldn't have done you much good. Point is there was about 5 hours notice. ____________
	ID: 1239229 ·

Will Send message Joined: 2 Jun 01 Posts: 1 Credit: 943,790 RAC: 1,701	Message 1239312 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 5:41:13 UTC
	hallo,I´m glad to see your system running,I guess it`s not good to have a brack,then we never now whate we lose on this time,so the hole Comnunity is happy. ____________
	ID: 1239312 ·

tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 2890 Credit: 257,895 RAC: 249	Message 1239324 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 6:59:18 UTC
	I am running 7 BOINC projects. When one is down, I have six others. Tullio ____________
	ID: 1239324 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7453 Credit: 39,538,405 RAC: 32,216	Message 1239368 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 9:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 1239166.
	It turns out that there are two mechanisms for sending "Notices" to the BOINC client. Apparently one of them has stopped working, or never worked for us. I've enabled the other mechanism. Next time your BOINC client gets an update from SETI@home you'll see some old messages. If we fix the broken mechanism you might start seeing double messages, at which point I'll disable one. LOL. I've now got one copy of the notice about the original (unscheduled) outage, dated 18 May, but nothing about the second outage yet.
	ID: 1239368 ·

Ivan Send message Joined: 23 May 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,238 RAC: 1	Message 1239407 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 12:43:53 UTC
	I thought that only in Russia failed power.
	ID: 1239407 ·

Miki Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Aug 03 Posts: 1 Credit: 434,215 RAC: 559	Message 1239422 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 13:19:32 UTC - in response to Message 1232771.
	Thanks ____________
	ID: 1239422 ·

perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,610,027 RAC: 10,042	Message 1239439 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 14:05:18 UTC - in response to Message 1239407.
	I thought that only in Russia failed power. No, we all get it, it was just inwented in Russia according to Ensign Chekov. :) ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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D0lphina Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 1 Credit: 69,519 RAC: 119	Message 1239477 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 15:34:59 UTC
	K...this is a dumb question, but...I am not sure how to read the Seti screen saver? How do I read it?
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