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Message 1243191 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 6:04:22 UTC

I'm worried about the economy tanking. It seems mysteriously slow everywhere going into this summer...
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Message 1243218 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 7:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 1243191.  

It isn't mysterious -- there are enough world economic problems to make a slow down easy, and there seems to be a political incentive for both the TeaPublicans and their major supporters to facilitate a slow down from now to the election.

Why would big business want a slowdown? Well if Romney wins, they expect a far more forgiving attitude toward regulations, profit and top end compensation. So tanking for a quarter or two pays off in the intermediate term.

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Message 1243301 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 14:22:41 UTC - in response to Message 1243218.  

It isn't mysterious -- there are enough world economic problems to make a slow down easy, and there seems to be a political incentive for both the TeaPublicans and their major supporters to facilitate a slow down from now to the election.

Why would big business want a slowdown? Well if Romney wins, they expect a far more forgiving attitude toward regulations, profit and top end compensation. So tanking for a quarter or two pays off in the intermediate term.



I started down the same thought process in my own head after posting that last night...
They are the ones in the positions of control. They stop spending, and yep I agree they could and would cause a slowdown for their own purposes.

But if people think it's bad now, and decide a presidential change is in order, then we'll really see how low we can go.

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Message 1243459 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 19:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 1243301.  

Obama does make it easier not to vote for him when we does a 'the private sector is fine' spin in a news conference. Gosh, he sounds like Romney will sound as President in 2013 if elected.

Then again, Obama is a center or center/right sort of President on a very large number of issues (Faux news notwithstanding).
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Message 1243831 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 5:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 1243459.  

Obama does make it easier not to vote for him when we does a 'the private sector is fine' spin in a news conference. Gosh, he sounds like Romney will sound as President in 2013 if elected.

Then again, Obama is a center or center/right sort of President on a very large number of issues (Faux news notwithstanding).


I'm worried Barry. That's for sure. I made a statement that Obama wins hands down. But I am worried that will only hold true if the young, and female populations, get their vote out.

If not, I'll be eating my own words, while I watch the economy tank further, and watch the separation of wealth start to resemble Brazil.
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Message 1243840 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 5:57:08 UTC - in response to Message 1243831.  

Ex -- I hear you. And as I've noted before, I get exercised quite a bit over 'the reason why the poor are poor and the rich are rich is because the poor are lazy' stuff I see in too many blogs.

The thing is, an Obama win won't stop the concentration of wealth -- because the House is not likely to go Democrat, and the Senate *even if the Democrats manage to retain a majority* will not have enough Democrats to get super majorities. And of course even if those two conditions were dealt with (and they won't), the Republicans have a 5/4 majority in the other legislative branch of government.
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Message 1243841 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 6:14:00 UTC - in response to Message 1243840.  

Ex -- I hear you. And as I've noted before, I get exercised quite a bit over 'the reason why the poor are poor and the rich are rich is because the poor are lazy' stuff I see in too many blogs.

It plays well to ditto heads. The poor are poor because of poor skill sets. --try that again-- The poor are poor due to disadvantaged skill sets. --no sounds too PC-- The poor have low income due to the lack of highly sought after talents. --hum a bit too much like a stump speech-- Failure of education creates low income. --true but not on the mark-- The poor are poor due to a whole host of different reasons.

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Message 1243845 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 6:21:28 UTC - in response to Message 1243841.  

Agreed -- too bad politics has (on both sides of the aisle) so effectively stripped out nuance. Everything is Manichean.

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The poor are poor due to a whole host of different reasons.


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Message 1246033 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 18:04:55 UTC - in response to Message 1242114.  

Guy, you don't have to answer this, but are you over 60 years old? (It could explain a lot to me)


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I suspect Guy is in his mid-fiddies.
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Message 1246041 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 18:27:51 UTC

I'm going to vote for the American. Whomever that may be.
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Message 1246088 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 20:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 1246041.  

I'm going to vote for the American. Whomever that may be.

Is there an American running for President?

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Message 1246311 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 5:28:15 UTC - in response to Message 1246088.  

I'm going to vote for the American. Whomever that may be.

Is there an American running for President?

How about the Mexican-American that consumes mass quantities of "Just For Men-Touch of Grey"?
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Message 1246492 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 17:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 1246477.  

I see that Obama would prefer a rational rather immigration policy -- perhaps more like that suggested by McCain before he got 'TeaParty fever'. I can see how a rational policy would antagonize those for whom rational is a bad, evil word.
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Message 1246626 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 22:38:56 UTC - in response to Message 1246492.  

I see that Obama would prefer a rational rather immigration policy -- perhaps more like that suggested by McCain before he got 'TeaParty fever'. I can see how a rational policy would antagonize those for whom rational is a bad, evil word.


Barry, I think the fever McCain caught is Bieber.
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Message 1246656 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 23:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 1246626.  

That would be more recent, the other is ongoing.




Barry, I think the fever McCain caught is Bieber.

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Message 1246663 - Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 0:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 1246661.  
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Guy -- indeed, it is one of the components of that left wing radical John McCain's position of 2006. Unrest and evil for sure.

As I noted before, rational is so revolutionary and radical to some.
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Message 1246685 - Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 1:52:04 UTC - in response to Message 1246661.  
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No, I'm closer to the high end of my 40's.

As for his latest edict, that's going to get him as many as 800,000 votes!

And this is going to cause civil unrest no matter how it turns out.

This !@##@*^&!?? outrages me.
That's about all I can say within the confines of this forum.
Election year political posturing at the expense of this country's well being.
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Message 1246688 - Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 2:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 1246685.  

Mark, this country spent much money educating these people and you think we should discard our investment? A poor investment strategy for our economy IMO.
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