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Message 1237052 - Posted: 26 May 2012, 5:13:06 UTC
Last modified: 26 May 2012, 5:56:12 UTC

I did a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04, then installed the PPA per my instructions, and it's running away... So I'm perplexed as to what's up here

However this bug has been mentioned on launchpad, so you are not the only one with the issue, I am just unable to re-create it.


Anyways, just try

sudo apt-get install boinc-app-seti


This package was added to the PPA presumably to fix your bug

That should install your missing dependencies? (please update here if it works for you, and I will update my instructions if so)
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Message 1237899 - Posted: 27 May 2012, 8:07:19 UTC - in response to Message 1237052.

Thanks for the response - I get:

boinc-app-seti is already the newest version

The version string is 5.13+cvs20060510-0-8-precise1

So I still have the problem :(

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Message 1238010 - Posted: 27 May 2012, 13:46:50 UTC
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Erm, something is not right then, perhaps they made another change...

The version (boinc-app-seti) currently in the PPA repository is "6.12~svn1305-0~9~precise1", NOT "5.xx..."
Try "sudo apt-get update" (To refresh your repository sources list)
Then try "sudo apt-get install boinc-app-seti" or "sudo apt-get upgrade"

If you still cant get it working, try these two commands.

sudo updatedb sudo locate libboinc_api.so



I'm pretty much out of ideas... You could try backporting the 7.0.27 from Quantal 12.10 repository, but I fear you will have this issue still.

Perhaps it's time me and you both learn how to compile our own installs. ;-)

[They definitely changed something with this PPA package, it was only installing 17MB of stuff, this time it installed over 200MB (I feel bad for dial-up people), either way, once again it's running for me (just by "apt-get install boinc" no other package needed), I cannot duplicate this bug. :-(]
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Message 1238101 - Posted: 27 May 2012, 16:35:19 UTC - in response to Message 1238010.

Thanks for the feedback. Something strange indeed! When I look at the ppa using the y ppa manager I see the version I previously posted; if I double click on the entry for the boinc app which takes me to launchpad and I'm shown the version you report! The other suggestions haven't done anything. So I tried removing and re-installing the ppa and the app - watching the output in the terminal window shows that it is picking up the app from the standard ubuntu respositories, not the ppa and that seems to be because the 6.xx series build has failed in the ppa for everything except 12.10 - see https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/boinc/+packages

Years ago I used to manually install all of this and never had problems so perhaps I should go back to the user unfriendly way!!

I'll give it a couple of days to see if the ppa is fixed.

Thanks again!
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Message 1238110 - Posted: 27 May 2012, 16:49:38 UTC

Anytime! I'm sorry you are having this issue. And yes manual install would avoid this issue.

I have been testing things with the Ubuntu folks however, because I like using the package manager for as much as possible, and being partial to Ubuntu I am interested in seeing the repository package fixed.

"LocutusofBorg" is actively working on this ppa repository, it usually works fine, except for this issue you (and others) are having. As I mentioned I think your bug is the very thing holding up the fix from the standard 12.04 repository.

They've all been pretty quiet at launchpad, I'm hoping after the holiday they get back on this and figure it out.

I see the ppa is having some failed builds going on, so perhaps that's why the version difference (as you mentioned). Hopefully he'll get a good build in there. Once that happens, your package manager should show an update available for it.

One last package you can try to fix the missing dependency is "boinc-dev".

I'm sorry I can't be of more help on this issue.
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Message 1238117 - Posted: 27 May 2012, 16:59:15 UTC
Last modified: 27 May 2012, 17:30:12 UTC

Since you seem to know your way around Ubuntu a little. You could try to cheat like this:

Remove the PPA, install the standard (broken) 7.0.24 from the regular repository.

Then, add the ppa, update your package manager, and remove only "boinc-client":

sudo apt-get remove boinc-client

Then install boinc-client (which will install JUST the 7.0.28 client from the PPA)


Maybe this will put everything in place nicely, and then it will run? Then maybe not, as we know you could still have the missing dependency from the out of date app. (If it works, remove the PPA before you do any "upgrade" command, or else something may break again! :-))

Just a thought.

Just let me know if that ppa starts working for you or not, likewise I'll update here if/when some changes happen.

UPDATE EDIT]
as I talked about how quiet they've been at launchpad: They updated the (your) bug, gave it "medium" importance (which is a high priority believe it or not) and they seem to know exactly what is wrong. They are building a package to test, I will give it a go in a day or two when I can. I'll add a link here later to this test package, AFTER I verify the test build actually built! :-)
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Message 1238703 - Posted: 29 May 2012, 3:57:23 UTC

I see a successful new build of boinc and boinc-app-seti in the ppa currently. If you still have the PPA installed on your system a quick:

sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade

should do the trick.

Recap on removing broken boinc, installing the PPA, and installing this boinc (for Ubuntu 12.04 desktop) Using a terminal:
sudo apt-get remove boinc sudo apt-get autoremove sudo add-apt-repository ppa:costamagnagianfranco/boinc sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install boinc



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Message 1239130 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 21:36:51 UTC - in response to Message 1238703.

So I have received a couple of units and... a different error:

<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process got signal 11
</message>
<stderr_txt>

</stderr_txt>
]]>


I've now got the 6.12 app too. Other BOINC projects seem to be fine. I did get another update tonight so I'll see if that has an effect.
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Message 1239147 - Posted: 31 May 2012, 22:07:58 UTC
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Yea Mark, a lot of updates... Whenever the git repository at Debian changes, that PPA package will get rebuilt, and we get updates.

Steffen (the Debian package maintainer) just in the past two days has made many many updates, There has been about 7 rebuilds on packages in the PPA in just the past two days.

Packages that may help issues would be boinc-app-seti, and boinc-dev.

And just so you know you are not alone, one of those 7.0.28 builds I tried out a few days back seemed to be running, but was actually making garbage. I've updated to the most recent PPA version 7.0.28+dfsg-0~850~precise1.

I hope this one is in good shape, as I have two Linux machines (i386 and am64) going almost full throttle with this version (totalling 10 cores, so if I'm making garbage that's gonna be BAD)... I'll be watching for verified good units this evening. [edit: seems to be ok, already have validated work. :-)]

Another thing for people to be aware of, certain architectures will continue to have some issues with the Debian package 7.0.28, until Steffen makes further updates on Debian's end to fix it. In that regard, those users' only choice is going to be a manual install.

And Mark, don't make the same mistake I did. Always do a "sudo apt-get update" before you install packages. (Earlier, I installed again the PPA link, then I installed boinc without paying attention and I got the broken 7.0.24 from the regular repository before I even noticed, because I forgot to update APT before I did the install. :-S)
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Message 1240187 - Posted: 2 Jun 2012, 15:57:21 UTC - in response to Message 1239147.

Well, despite many updates I still can do no work, I get the computation error as mentioned in my previous post. I've made sure that I have done update before install etc but no joy. I have downloaded the 7.28 from the download site to try a manual install. I'll report back when I have a chance to do this.

Otherwise I'll be ditching SETI for a while - Einstein & Milkyway are running OK. Seems I have come to the same conclusion as the original poster in this thread!

Thanks for all the suggestions so far.
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Message 1240200 - Posted: 2 Jun 2012, 16:19:25 UTC
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Mark, I'm sorry. With a manual install of boinc, from the Berkeley Boinc website. You will NOT have these issues, that I promise you.

You will find your joy.




Perhaps you are one of the unlucky few with the processor type that Debian is trying to get their package working for...

(I can say that there hasn't been a lot of people having issues with this PPA Boinc package in Ubuntu, you are my only one here still having issues (as far as I know), so whatever is wrong here, it's rare..)
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Message 1242086 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 7:43:14 UTC - in response to Message 1240200.
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Any new updates(news) for 12.04?
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Message 1242093 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 8:01:47 UTC

From what I gather here and on MANY message boards, this is not a BOINC error, it is a problem with the SETI@Home part. Funny how I don't have any errors on my Win7Pro computer, nor my Vista, but the Linux computer simply cannot get away from computational and communications errors (all other projects outside of UC Berkeley work just fine in Linux).

So, I'm not even going to try any more. They don't want my Linux computers processing their data? Well, then my Windows computers won't be either.

Been a part of SETI@Home in one form or another since 1999. Hate to go, but no choice if their software is full of bugs for this long. If I wanted buggy, I would've stuck with Windows.

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Message 1242097 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 8:09:16 UTC - in response to Message 1242093.

And, yes, did everything posted here, nothing worked, same errors.

Sorry guys, I'll try back in a couple of years and see if the problems have been corrected by then. Until then, halting all SETI projects on ALL computers.

Good luck.

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Message 1242175 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 13:52:54 UTC
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Obviously you didn't try EVERYTHING here.


Because if you do a manual install of Boinc, from the Boinc website, you can avoid any issues, which these repository packages are loaded with...

Here's the link


I can do no more to help here. Debian AND Ubuntu peoples are rebuilding this package in too many different ways, there is too much lack of communication. And because there are still issues with the packages being built, Ubuntu people will not be making any updates to the standard repository package anytime soon.


Again, an option that you should consider, that WILL work, is just download the package from the Boinc site. Then you get a working package that's not hacked to bits by a million patches...
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Message 1242197 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 14:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 1242175.

Ah, but Dave, the user tried everything! It's obviously SETI's fault and they don't want Linux clients, even though the apps are developed on Linux machines and there are hundreds of Linux clients connecting to SETI right now. Better to claim you've tried it all and point the finger at everyone else than admit you are being too lazy to make it work. (Of course, I'll agree that things should "just work", but that hasn't been my overall experience with Linux.)


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3) If a user said they did do it, see rule #1.

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Message 1242212 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 14:41:16 UTC
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I passed along the complaints to Launchpad :-D

(I love doing that)

If anyone experiencing an error with seti@home/Boinc (from Ubuntu PPA package) would like to copy and paste the error event here from your "event log" that could be helpful...


I can do no more to help however. Sorry.


Moral of the story: Manual install from Berkeley, avoid Ubuntu's package manager for now.


[LMAO Blankman :-), 2 out of 3 of my seti running machines are Linux, currently working away error free]
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Message 1242233 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 15:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 1242212.

I've no doubt you do have 2 Linux machines working, as I said, hundreds, if not thousands of people here do. I'll admit, I'm too lazy to figure Linux out because I see no need or reason to switch (and I'll likely be very stubborn if someone tries to force it upon me).

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Message 1242269 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 15:55:35 UTC - in response to Message 1242197.
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We have three rules in our support department:

1) Users lie.
2) If a user said they didn't do it, see rule #1.
3) If a user said they did do it, see rule #1.

Now there's an eye-opener. :-P

By the way, the user obviously didn't want to run Seti anyway, as they retract their Windows machine(s) as well, while those have no trouble (they claim). So really not worth the energy to try to convince otherwise. They decided it's the world's fault, so it's the world's fault. Let it go. :)
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Message 1242388 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 18:12:28 UTC
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Please try using this PPA instead: ppa:pkg-boinc/ppa

First:(for Ubuntu 12.04)

sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/costamagnagianfranco-boinc-precise.list sudo apt-get update


Then:(for ubuntu 12.04)
sudo apt-get remove boinc sudo apt-get autoremove sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pkg-boinc/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install boinc

This PPA should remain stable and is preferred over the previous one (it is the ubuntu-boinc teams official PPA). I did not know of it's existence before today, when a Boinc team member at ubuntu pointed me to it. :-)

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