Intelligent Design Thoery

Great, a Bladerunner quote -- good fit under this topic.

Uhh.......
I've seen things.......

I have.

The Fibonacci numbers series has been used for over 50 years by the followers
of Elliott wave theory. This theory being used to predict major and minor
moves in stock markets using the Fibonacci series to count wave movements.
Here the Golden ratio is also used to mark expected change in market direction.

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The above posts do tell me alot. I do miss Fred.

Uhh.......
I've seen things.......

I have.

The Fibonacci numbers series has been used for over 50 years by the followers
of Elliott wave theory. This theory being used to predict major and minor
moves in stock markets using the Fibonacci series to count wave movements.
Here the Golden ratio is also used to mark expected change in market direction.

Spirograph!

Were numbers discovered or invented?

If numbers were invented patterns were invented. They are merely an artifact of the invention.

Nature is better explained by repetitive rules than numbers, see Wolfram's book. That some number patterns sort of match some rules is just an artifact.

But if numbers were discovered then we would expect them to behave independently of other things and have no particular relationship to anything else save in some grand unification theory. We would expect to be able to isolate "numberness" from things as protons can be isolated.

Were the gods invented or discovered?

If the gods were invented we would expect them to match their nature. The Roman gods were arbitrary, capricious and fickle. The Christian god is good and kind but comes with tedious and tendentious explanations as to why it only appears to be arbitrary, capricious and fickle when it really is not. Jews have an immature, jealous, petty, vindictive god who can be outmaneuvered and out-thought by a clever human as in Abraham negotiating over Sodom. As with the Romans its actions are not in need of explanation to anyone familiar with small children.

But if the gods were discovered then we would not expect them to have any particular relationship to our reality any more than we could expect to predict the behavior of any other alien species.

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The Fibonacci numbers series has been used for over 50 years by the followers
of Elliott wave theory. This theory being used to predict major and minor
moves in stock markets using the Fibonacci series to count wave movements.
Here the Golden ratio is also used to mark expected change in market direction.

Then everyone must have bailed before the last stock market crash and no one lost money.

The gulf between used and used successfully should always be examined before such statements are made.

BTW you couldn't make those nice lines with the spirograph set that way.
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Yes there is structure in Nature and in Mathematics. Send me a private message and I will send you a paper on the subject which starts with a good discussion of Fibonacci (Leonardo of Pizza).

The ratios and the spirals turn out the way things have to be when growth occurs.

The Fibonacci numbers series has been used for over 50 years by the followers
of Elliott wave theory. This theory being used to predict major and minor
moves in stock markets using the Fibonacci series to count wave movements.
Here the Golden ratio is also used to mark expected change in market direction.

Then everyone must have bailed before the last stock market crash and no one lost money.

The gulf between used and used successfully should always be examined before such statements are made.

As I stated Mat, by the followers. I suggest you read a little about this first
then you will understand that using Elliott wave theory is more an art than a
proven science. The above posted by me was an example of where Fibonacci
summation series is being used, and at no time did I state that it was being
used successfully. It was not a statement claiming that Elliott
wave is at all successful at predicting accurately movements in the stock
market.

An art is no a science and thus cannot qualify as a theory. Making claims beyond the evidence or without evidence is a believer thing.

Ah, to a point we agree. Thank you gentlemen.

And we went someplace fast. :)

An art is no a science and thus cannot qualify as a theory. Making claims beyond the evidence or without evidence is a believer thing.

What ever your feelings on it is, Mat, the fact is that Elliott Wave theory
works on "utilising" the Fibonacci summation series, the subject of this thread.

You--just don't really---understand do you?

Good night....