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Message 1213045 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 0:44:40 UTC

4/1/2012 6:40:05 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
4/1/2012 6:40:11 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
4/1/2012 6:40:11 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available


I have been seeing this for quite a while.
I look at the server status and it shows a ton of tasks available.
Is there any hope or should i move on after 13 years.
Just want to understand


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Message 1213049 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 0:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 1213045.  

The answer is very simple, stop asking for work while I'm sucking the life out of the servers. :D

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Message 1213051 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 0:54:00 UTC - in response to Message 1213049.  

Looks like you're full on one machine and half to 1/3 full on the other two. Have patience, it'll fill up.


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Message 1213054 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 1213051.  

hmmm you must have me confused with someone else. I have about 100 in one and 80 in the other. In any event I have had patience for a long time, its starting to wear thin. I remember when this started and it was exciting and delays were understandable. You would think that after all these years that I could set the buffer for 10-20 days and it could be seamless.
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Message 1213056 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 1213054.  

hmmm you must have me confused with someone else. I have about 100 in one and 80 in the other. In any event I have had patience for a long time, its starting to wear thin. I remember when this started and it was exciting and delays were understandable. You would think that after all these years that I could set the buffer for 10-20 days and it could be seamless.

If its that frustrating why don't you look into adding another project. Or you could mine some worthless bitcoin.
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Message 1213058 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:09:01 UTC - in response to Message 1213054.  

hmmm you must have me confused with someone else. I have about 100 in one and 80 in the other. In any event I have had patience for a long time, its starting to wear thin. I remember when this started and it was exciting and delays were understandable. You would think that after all these years that I could set the buffer for 10-20 days and it could be seamless.

Slavac was probably talking about my 3 as I've 2 now bouncing off the limits but that probably won't last long with all these shorties.

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Message 1213060 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 1213054.  

hmmm you must have me confused with someone else. I have about 100 in one and 80 in the other. In any event I have had patience for a long time, its starting to wear thin. I remember when this started and it was exciting and delays were understandable. You would think that after all these years that I could set the buffer for 10-20 days and it could be seamless.


174 and 82, out of a possible 800 and 600 respectively. There is no 10 day cache anymore, the limits are 50 per CPU core and 400 per GPU. Period. For a fast system that's a day for the GPU and maybe 2 or 3 for the CPU.
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Message 1213062 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:18:18 UTC - in response to Message 1213058.  

hmmm you must have me confused with someone else. I have about 100 in one and 80 in the other. In any event I have had patience for a long time, its starting to wear thin. I remember when this started and it was exciting and delays were understandable. You would think that after all these years that I could set the buffer for 10-20 days and it could be seamless.

Slavac was probably talking about my 3 as I've 2 now bouncing off the limits but that probably won't last long with all these shorties.

Cheers.


Clicked the wrong one :/ I need a nap.


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Message 1213063 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:18:39 UTC

Got it. Thanks

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Message 1213068 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 1:29:16 UTC - in response to Message 1213045.  

4/1/2012 6:40:05 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
4/1/2012 6:40:11 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
4/1/2012 6:40:11 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available


I have been seeing this for quite a while.
I look at the server status and it shows a ton of tasks available.
Is there any hope or should i move on after 13 years.
Just want to understand

That's a badly worded reason. If it said "No tasks in Feeder pool" it would be more accurate, though probably no easier for users to understand.

The server status tasks shown as "Results ready to send" means the result records have been created in the BOINC database. That's the stockroom. The Feeder updates a pool of 100 for the Scheduler processes to pick up. That's the retail shelf, aka "Available". After filling the pool, the Feeder rechecks it and if there's nothing to do it goes to sleep for 3 seconds.

At the rate we're asking for work, the pool is probably emptied well before that 3 seconds is done, and requests then cannot supply work. But the system can assign enough work to fill the download pipe, so there would be no sense in speeding it up by shortening the Feeder sleep time.
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Message 1213076 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 2:11:42 UTC

I started the thread to understand and to vent.
I love the fact that i get corrected grammar and patronized.
You all have a great one
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Message 1213097 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 3:20:28 UTC - in response to Message 1213076.  

Can you point out who corrected your grammar? Is it not possible that your frustration is making you think that people are patronizing you? Because I have not seen that in this thread. They were genuinely trying to be helpful.
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Message 1213106 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 3:33:15 UTC
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I may have been a little snide. Sorry if it came off that way. But I was just getting at the point that there's plenty of ways to max out a rigs capabilities.
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Message 1213151 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 7:39:19 UTC - in response to Message 1213076.  

I started the thread to understand and to vent.
I love the fact that i get corrected grammar and patronized.
You all have a great one
Lenny


Lenny, I'm happy to say you got it wrong:) Joe (Josef) was referring the Boinc Manager msgs as "a badly worded reason" (not your's) and in particular to "Project has no tasks available" as opposed to "No tasks in Feeder pool". If you go back and re-read his reply I'm sure it'll make sense. I'm also happy to say that there are hardly any grammar police patroling these forums, probably due to the fact that Seti is quite international.
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Message 1213160 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 8:27:18 UTC - in response to Message 1213151.  

I'm also happy to say that there are hardly any grammar police patroling these forums, probably due to the fact that Seti is quite international.

That and because no one can spell "there/their/they're" and "it's/its" correctly anyway, so you've been given up on. :P
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Message 1213190 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 13:11:19 UTC - in response to Message 1213160.  
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I'm also happy to say that there are hardly any grammar police patroling these forums, probably due to the fact that Seti is quite international.


That and because no one can spell "there/their/they're" and "it's/its" correctly anyway, so you've been given up on. :P


there= a location. i.e. "Look over there"
their= belonging to. i.e. "Their grammar is horrible"
they're= they are. i.e. "They're doing a horrible job spelling"

its= belonging to "it". i.e. "Its spelling is horrible"
it's= it is. i.e. "It's rude to correct peoples' grammar."

Most native english speakers cannot get the above right. So I would never expect someone who speaks other languages as well to always be correct.

Not sure if I'm mistaken on any of the above :-) for the record I too have bad grammar and spell terribly.

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Message 1213208 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 15:06:22 UTC - in response to Message 1213190.  

I'm also happy to say that there are hardly any grammar police patroling these forums, probably due to the fact that Seti is quite international.

That and because no one can spell "there/their/they're" and "it's/its" correctly anyway, so you've been given up on. :P

there= a location. i.e. "Look over there"
their= belonging to. i.e. "Their grammar is horrible"
they're= they are. i.e. "They're doing a horrible job spelling"

its= belonging to "it". i.e. "Its spelling is horrible"
it's= it is. i.e. "It's rude to correct peoples' grammar."

Most native english speakers cannot get the above right. So I would never expect someone who speaks other languages as well to always be correct.

Not sure if I'm mistaken on any of the above :-) for the record I too have bad grammar and spell terribly.

-Dave

your= belonging to you. i.e. "Your grammar is atrocious."
you're= you are. i.e. "You're horrible at spelling."
yore= distant past. i.e. [I'm trying to remember a line from a Christmas carol with "yore" in it.] This is getting to be arcahic.

Bad grammar drives me nuts, but I've learned that people don't like grammar cops, so I grit my teeth and ignore it. (My obsession with it started when I was looking for text files I hadn't written myself to feed into a Morse Code generator when I was studying for my first ham radio license; the bad grammar in the files would make me think I'd copied the code wrong.)

I confess that I occasionally type it's or you're when I don't mean them; I think it's because seeing them wrong so much has partially conditioned me to think they're right. Also, I think a lot of people go tippety-tap typing along and use the wrong word or just plain spell something wrong without even thinking about it, and then they click Post without proofreading themselves. I always proofread myself (and even then I miss an error once in a while).

As for the non-native English speakers here, a lot of them are better than the natives. Sten-Arne, to name one, is not only nearly perfect in spelling, grammar, and usage, but also in his command of English (mainly American) idioms. I do occasionally offer a correction to a foreigner who is consistently getting the same thing wrong in the same way, but I make sure to be friendly about it.

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Message 1213256 - Posted: 2 Apr 2012, 17:11:58 UTC - in response to Message 1213151.  

I started the thread to understand and to vent.
I love the fact that i get corrected grammar and patronized.
You all have a great one
Lenny


Lenny, I'm happy to say you got it wrong:) Joe (Josef) was referring the Boinc Manager msgs as "a badly worded reason" (not your's) and in particular to "Project has no tasks available" as opposed to "No tasks in Feeder pool". If you go back and re-read his reply I'm sure it'll make sense.
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Thank you, Alex, thet's exactly how I meant it. The misleading semantics of "available" in that message from BOINC have bothered me for a long time.

But rereading Lenny's original post, perhaps it's the "Is there any hope or should i move on after 13 years." line which ought to be answered. I personally found Matt's High Score (Mar 27 2012) opening post very encouraging. Both characterizing how things would be with a 1 Gbps link and recognizing the switch overloading bode well for future improvements.
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Message 1214017 - Posted: 4 Apr 2012, 19:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 1213208.  


Bad grammar drives me nuts, but I've learned that people don't like grammar cops, so I grit my teeth and ignore it.


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