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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I'd like to propose a vote of thanks to Richard Hasselgrove, LadyL and others who have worked so damn hard, and under a lot of pressure, to get this latest installer out. See my post in Gripes and Kudos.....made before I read this thread tonight. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL. Yep, but the fact is NVidia are pushing CUDA- it's their programming model. And AMD are pushing OpenGL. So each develops for their model. Grant Darwin NT |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
The astropulse app is OpenCL and to be honest Nvidia is a little behind ATI with OpenCL. OpenGL is a creation of Silicon Graphics Inc, and is a cross platform api for writing applications that produce 2D & 3D Graphics, just like OpenCL it is used by many different vendors, Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc Claggy |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
ATI had a lot of research done through Close to Metal, before they went to Brook+ (CAL) and eventually on to OpenCL. Their drivers are more mature when it comes to OpenCL support, than Nvidia's, as Nvidia has been focusing mostly on CUDA for a good 4 years now. |
LadyL Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 0 |
Can you all please stay on topic? Discussion about NVidia, ATI and OpenCL doesn't belong here. Thanks all, but as Richard said, we just wrap it all nicely and put it on the van. It's a symbiosis - no installer without apps and the apps would not get as widely distributed without the installer. As has been pointed out several times, the AP OpenCL NVidia app is not ready for installer inclusion, since it uses a whole CPU core under CUDA 4.x (270.x+)drivers. It will be made available as a beta app [including appropriate app_info] when I have a chance to get round to it. I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra! |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
(...) Does this mean that x38g_cuda32 app can't run Kepler WUs? BTW, this new kind of WUs are specially marked? - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. - |
LadyL Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 0 |
(...) No, it means we haven't tested. The AP 6 WU are marked as AP 6 as opposed to AP 5.05, yes. Different application, different checkbox in the preferences, differen sublink in the tasklist. If you want to run the new AP 6 work (AP 505 is resends only) you need the new app. And the checkbox ticked. I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra! |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
(...) There is no new type of Wu called Kepler, Kepler is Nvidia's lastest GPU. Claggy |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
(...) ROFL, gotta love the convergence of naming. Good stuff. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
red-ray Send message Joined: 24 Jun 99 Posts: 308 Credit: 9,029,848 RAC: 0 |
x41g_cuda32 has been tested with and is safe to use on Kepler. x41g_cuda32 has been tested on and runs OK on the nVidia GTX 680 (code name Kepler). |
LadyL Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 0 |
That's what happens if you chuck in a line at the last moment - and I mean the last moment! It's also what happens if you jump to conclusions instead of reading properly. Sorry, Sutaru. And it hasn't been tested if x38g runs on GTX 680, but anyone putting a new generation of card in and NOT grabbing the latest installer (or at least reading the boards to make sure the old apps are safe to go) ought to be [censored]. We still have some idiots running V12 on Fermi (um GTX 460+ ?) and that is over 2 years and 4 opt app generations old. I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra! |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
For to show that I'm not totally stupid.. LOL News : 'First Look at Kepler SETI Candidate Signals' - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. - |
red-ray Send message Joined: 24 Jun 99 Posts: 308 Credit: 9,029,848 RAC: 0 |
We still have some idiots running V12 on Fermi (um GTX 460+ ?) and that is over 2 years and 4 opt app generations old. I feel that CUDA apps should be checking the cards Compute Capability and if it's higher than the app has been tested on the app should refuse to run. Maybe there needs to be a way to force it to run, but the default should be to Play Safe. |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
(...) If Richard can't write GTX6xx or nVIDIA Kepler or Kepler GPU - or what ever? ..so that no confusion happens. Just my 0.02 €. - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. - |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
We still have some idiots running V12 on Fermi (um GTX 460+ ?) and that is over 2 years and 4 opt app generations old. Hi Ray, Never going to happen. I never heard of any programmer implementing suicide code except for malicious intent. The builds were designed to be forward & backward compatible, taking advantage of language & driver facilities to do so, and they are. It's a releif that it's proven to work, but deliberately breaking stuff is an approach that has been considered and rejected, Jason "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34872 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well I suppose you can always count on someone to come along and confuse things that shouldn't be confused with the right understanding. :D Cheers. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
If Richard can't write GTX6xx or nVIDIA Kepler or Kepler GPU - or what ever? Yes, mea culpa, I should have proofread more carefully. But in mitigation, I did post seven times in Kepler ... the good news ... - I think most people keeping up with all the recent developments will have made the connection. And as LadyL says, it was very much a last minute addition - you'll find that the version of the release notes packed inside the installer doesn't have that line, because the cards hadn't been released and weren't available for testing when the final release version of the installer was compiled for testing. |
LadyL Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 0 |
(...) You do know about the 1 hour editing limit on these boards, yes? The Lunatics version has been changed. The downloadable version has been changed. And I'm not about to recall and redo the installer over that. I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra! |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
If Richard can't write GTX6xx or nVIDIA Kepler or Kepler GPU - or what ever? Yes Richard, you should work on your communication skills a bit more. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
LadyL Send message Joined: 14 Sep 11 Posts: 1679 Credit: 5,230,097 RAC: 0 |
Not to mention that we refer to that 'Kepler data' as GBT data. That's not even MB7, that's barely in the planning stage. I'm not the Pope. I don't speak Ex Cathedra! |
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