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Message 1165909 - Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 2:12:32 UTC - in response to Message 1165732.  
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Dull, many of us would prefer to do our duties, pay taxes and the rest but have been precluded by this race to turn our work force into a third world standard.
I ask what of any value to our society did you create with your clever stock trade? Did it create more food, clothing or shelter?
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Message 1165968 - Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 12:18:48 UTC

I ask what of any value to our society did you create with your clever stock trade? Did it create more food, clothing or shelter?

Actually, yes. What do you think cash from a clever trade is used for?

To buy food, clothing, and spend on shelter.

This reduces inventory at whatever business these items were bought.

Usually, inventory is then replenished. This keeps jobs going for People in Society.

Even if Every Item is made outside The US, the item was bought here in The US and a US Citizen(or illegal) handled this item. You know, through trucking, warehousing, stocking, cashiering, and other things such. Including owning, managing The Business which handles the items.

And The Stock Trading Transaction itself? I'm sure some Americans were involved in The Trade and got a cut of The $9.99. AND SPENT IT HERE IN AMERICA AT AN AMERICAN STORE.

Must I go on with this. Do you get The Picture?

I hope The Occupiers have more of A Grasp of Wall Street than is displayed here.

The Stock Trading American Consumer Named Dull.


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Message 1165984 - Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 13:51:32 UTC

Considering what the Dow did in October, perhaps we should wish the Occupy Dow Jones movement to just continue forever. Seems the 1% are finally making money again.


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Message 1166014 - Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 16:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 1165968.  

Dull, you are confusing consuming with creating!
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Message 1166033 - Posted: 28 Oct 2011, 18:26:50 UTC - in response to Message 1165362.  
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You tell me! They seem pretty lame, compared to the CND protesters that we used to get 'camped' outside the main gate of the RAF station I was stationed at, years ago. Perhaps the modern 'protester', enjoys rather too much, the 'gifts' that the system they hate so much, allows them to have, or lacks that level of conviction.

From a personal perspective, when people were paid by cash for the work they'd done, at the end of the week, the banks were a place you might put your spare cash into. Once the method by which one was paid (and the frequency), changed, the banks then had vast sums of money to 'play with'....in total, massive sums that would never have been 'available' to them, when we were paid in cash. So, what changed all that? You will find no argument from me, that the banks need to be more strictly controlled....especially if you'd paid out some of the insanely high bank charges that I have.


Never, ever, ever, have I been paid by my main employer, in cash. Payment in cash occurred when I was in high school and helped out someone on their farm for a day or so and they paid me cash "under the table" for that day of help.
For any "real" job, it's been by check. And that is going back to the 1980s.
What changed, 10-15 years ago, was the insistence that the checks be direct deposited.

P.S.-so what's this about there were no bank failures from 1930 to 1980?
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Message 1166760 - Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 18:30:17 UTC

Targeting Wall Street but hurting small vendors instead
Targeting Wall Street but hurting small vendors instead
About 40 vendors who sell on the City Hall lawn every Thursday were forced off the property after Occupy L.A. protesters refused to remove their encampment. The irony of the mini-businesses being hurt isn't lost on the demonstrators.
By Esmeralda Bermudez, Los Angeles Times

October 30, 2011, 8:14 p.m.
The Occupy movement came to Los Angeles aiming for Wall Street titans, but farmers market vendors are the first to take a real hit.

Two weeks ago, about 40 vendors who sell on the City Hall lawn every Thursday were forced off the property after protesters refused to remove their city of tents.

The mini-businesses — produce farmers, popcorn poppers, flower sellers — were abruptly moved by city officials to a new and less visible location across Main Street. Since that relocation, profits have plummeted, vendors have pulled out and shoppers have become scarce.
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The decision was made through a vote Oct. 19, she said. Close to a hundred demonstrators cast votes. Nearly everyone agreed to move, but a handful did not. Because decisions required unanimous approval, the handful won, Fennelly said.

Gosh 100%?! In the US Senate it is 60%. So one person can block anything. Someone told me democracy was 50% plus one vote. Must be the new math.


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Message 1166803 - Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 21:55:02 UTC - in response to Message 1166760.  

Actually, the ability of a single Senator to block action, particularly on appointments is quite real. Democrats did that as well during the reign of Bush II.



Gosh 100%?! In the US Senate it is 60%. So one person can block anything. Someone told me democracy was 50% plus one vote. Must be the new math.



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Message 1166807 - Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:10:48 UTC

Loving The Way the cities are Cleaning Out The Occupiers.

Snow, Cold, and Enforcing The Law. Sweet, so Sweet.

Go back from Whence You Came Occupiers. You are not wanted.

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Message 1166809 - Posted: 31 Oct 2011, 22:14:39 UTC - in response to Message 1166807.  

Indeed, leave the rest of us 1$ alone -- we are the fiscal majority.


Loving The Way the cities are Cleaning Out The Occupiers.

Snow, Cold, and Enforcing The Law. Sweet, so Sweet.

Go back from Whence You Came Occupiers. You are not wanted.

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Message 1166859 - Posted: 1 Nov 2011, 0:27:23 UTC - in response to Message 1166809.  

The French aristocracy thanks you for the obtuseness of your statement.

By that, being fiscally better off means nothing when they take off your head.


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Message 1167181 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 15:45:29 UTC

Cafe Owner Says He Was Forced to Cut Staff by Nearly a Fourth Because of 'Occupy' Protests
A New York City cafe cut its staff by nearly 25 percent last week because of lost business due to the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests, the cafe's owner told FoxNews.com.

Marc Epstein, owner of the Milk Street Cafe at 40 Wall Street in lower Manhattan, said he had to cut 21 of the 97 members of his staff on Thursday and Friday after seeing sales plummet by 30 percent in the six weeks since the protests began. He's also been forced to slash the restaurant operating hours, moving up his closing time from 9 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. Mondays through Thursdays.

The incessant noise and police activity aside, Epstein said the biggest obstacle to his business has been the ubiquitous New York police barricades surrounding Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan.

"It's not only a physical impediment, it's a psychological impediment," Epstein told FoxNews.com. "You look down Wall Street now, and it looks like it's under siege. So, people who have to walk down Wall Street don't walk down Wall Street. It used to be a beautiful pedestrian mall, and now it's not -- it's ugly."

More jobs lost to Occupy. How soon before the only job is state police officer?

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Message 1167183 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 15:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 1167181.  

one has to wonder how many of those job cuts we actual "occupyers"


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Message 1167211 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 17:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 1167181.  

No doubt, I wonder how the jobs lost to OWS compare to jobs lost overseas. And of course, if one could develop those numbers, would the concern be proportionate to the numbers?


More jobs lost to Occupy. How soon before the only job is state police officer?


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Message 1167212 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 17:57:31 UTC - in response to Message 1166760.  

Targeting Wall Street but hurting small vendors instead
Targeting Wall Street but hurting small vendors instead
About 40 vendors who sell on the City Hall lawn every Thursday were forced off the property after Occupy L.A. protesters refused to remove their encampment. The irony of the mini-businesses being hurt isn't lost on the demonstrators.
By Esmeralda Bermudez, Los Angeles Times

October 30, 2011, 8:14 p.m.
The Occupy movement came to Los Angeles aiming for Wall Street titans, but farmers market vendors are the first to take a real hit.

Two weeks ago, about 40 vendors who sell on the City Hall lawn every Thursday were forced off the property after protesters refused to remove their city of tents.

The mini-businesses — produce farmers, popcorn poppers, flower sellers — were abruptly moved by city officials to a new and less visible location across Main Street. Since that relocation, profits have plummeted, vendors have pulled out and shoppers have become scarce.
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The decision was made through a vote Oct. 19, she said. Close to a hundred demonstrators cast votes. Nearly everyone agreed to move, but a handful did not. Because decisions required unanimous approval, the handful won, Fennelly said.

Gosh 100%?! In the US Senate it is 60%. So one person can block anything. Someone told me democracy was 50% plus one vote. Must be the new math.


They are not practising democracy. It is a form of Anarchism that is based on reaching a consensus through debate. It is a slow but very effective process because it means that once a decision has been made everyone will stick to it. I suspect the debate is still ongoing.
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Message 1167214 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 18:02:25 UTC

I'm pleased to see that St Paul's finally remembered that they are Christians.

St Paul's seeks new direction and suspends legal action
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Message 1167303 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 22:48:46 UTC - in response to Message 1167181.  

Cafe Owner Says He Was Forced to Cut Staff by Nearly a Fourth Because of 'Occupy' Protests
A New York City cafe cut its staff by nearly 25 percent last week because of lost business due to the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests, the cafe's owner told FoxNews.com.

Marc Epstein, owner of the Milk Street Cafe at 40 Wall Street in lower Manhattan, said he had to cut 21 of the 97 members of his staff on Thursday and Friday after seeing sales plummet by 30 percent in the six weeks since the protests began. He's also been forced to slash the restaurant operating hours, moving up his closing time from 9 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. Mondays through Thursdays.

The incessant noise and police activity aside, Epstein said the biggest obstacle to his business has been the ubiquitous New York police barricades surrounding Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan.

"It's not only a physical impediment, it's a psychological impediment," Epstein told FoxNews.com. "You look down Wall Street now, and it looks like it's under siege. So, people who have to walk down Wall Street don't walk down Wall Street. It used to be a beautiful pedestrian mall, and now it's not -- it's ugly."

More jobs lost to Occupy. How soon before the only job is state police officer?


Will you swallow it,
hook, line and sinker?
Prime-time, boob tube ...
you're a Marble Thinker.

What they're tryin' to sell ya,
could it be,
they have an agenda?
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Message 1167322 - Posted: 2 Nov 2011, 23:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 1159442.  

Dear 99% who sleep.

One of us 1%'s just passed. He stayed awake. Started in his parent's garage with a hobby. Turned it into the biggest corporation, beat out all the banks and oil companies.

99% if you continue to sit on your rear and expect someone else to make you rich you will continue exactly where you are now. The only person who can make you rich is the one you see in the mirror every morning.

Now deal with the facts of life.

Sincerely,
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Dear Gary Charpentier,

Von Braun and JFK are long dead. One had the scientific knowledge and inspiration, the other the political will and wherwwithall, to get us to Luna. Now, when a government agency is out of big inspiring ideas, and the "little private corporation guys" trying to get space tourism and exploration going in a different way, you would rather gripe about Obama and the Democratic Party for reducing NASAs role and worry that they will scrap it altogether.
I could go on and on, but, are you saying you do not trust a Werner Von Braun or Steve Jobs to appear on the private side of space tourism and exploration, who might keep the technological innovation?
If not, I see contradictions in your overall thinking. Do you?

The 1 in 7 billion = 0.1428571429 * 10^(-7) %.
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Message 1167325 - Posted: 3 Nov 2011, 0:00:32 UTC - in response to Message 1167212.  

Certainly one way to look at it -- perhaps taking a bit of a lesson from the TeaParty partisans. Those folks have been very effective, and have taken over the TeaPublican party (with no small amount of financial assistance). They too (at least from what has gone on in Congress) have anarchistic leanings.

They are not practising democracy. It is a form of Anarchism that is based on reaching a consensus through debate. It is a slow but very effective process because it means that once a decision has been made everyone will stick to it. I suspect the debate is still ongoing.

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Message 1167361 - Posted: 3 Nov 2011, 2:57:01 UTC

This Author advises on what Occupiers should do to be more effective.

Naomi Wolf: The people versus the police

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Message 1167376 - Posted: 3 Nov 2011, 3:56:42 UTC

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http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_19246904
at Whole Foods at 27th and Bay streets, a group wearing all-black and face masks threw paint balls, left graffiti, tore up a fence and broke a window ...

A man who witnessed the attack on Whole Foods, but declined to give his name, said he was buying an organic orange when the vandalism started.
"I heard a thud as I walked out, and I looked and saw this whole parade of people walking toward the store," the man said. "Most of them were holding signs, walking peacefully, but about three people ran out and kicked down the gate, so I turned to run away."
Joan Bechtel, of Pittsburg, said she and her friend were inside when the vandalism started and were held inside the store for 45 minutes.
"People were scared at first, and there was a lot of tension there for quite a while," Bechtel said. "We heard they were coming back and the employees said they had to close the store, and they let us out."
Oakland City Council President Larry Reid took was not pleased with the destruction.
"Look at Whole Foods. Look at Bank of America and the Kaiser Center. Look at Chase Bank. It's not even dark yet." Asked if he thinks the city can control the vandalism, Reid sighed, and said simply, "No."
Occupy Oakland demonstrators turned their ire on big banks, the Port of Oakland and corporations Wednesday by marching, blocking traffic and chanting -- and in some cases, defacing ATMs and breaking windows -- at Wells Fargo, Bank of America and Chase Bank branches around downtown Oakland.
At Bank of America, some protesters pounded on the locked doors, defaced ATMs and broke a window before moving down the street to Wells Fargo.
Several windows were also broken at the Wells Fargo at 12th and Broadway ...

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