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I've had enough - Packing my bags and going now
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
I need more GPU work but it keeps requesting CPU and GPU and gets more CPU than GPU. You could (temporarily!) turn off "Use CPU" in your SETI@home preferences. Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours |
Ghery S. Pettit Send message Joined: 7 Nov 99 Posts: 325 Credit: 28,109,066 RAC: 82 |
When they opened the spigot I got a dozen AP WUs for one of my machines, a machine that hasn't seen one that I can remember. Currently guessing 26 hours for each (we'll see). And a boat load of regular WUs as well. Once those finish downloading (that will take a while) this machine should be set for the outage this week. Got to go check the others... |
John Neale Send message Joined: 16 Mar 00 Posts: 634 Credit: 7,246,513 RAC: 9 |
I see that Keith, who was by no means a "super-cruncher", was as good as his word. He packed his bags and left. In his huff, he aborted all his tasks, leaving quite a few wingmen temporarily high and dry. He missed out on 24 hours of non-stop downloads. Ah, well, as the rest of us have seen, patience is a virtue. I suppose we could take bets on if (and if so, when) he'll come back, like Aristo(teles) did! |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
I see that Keith, who was by no means a "super-cruncher", was as good as his word. He packed his bags and left. In his huff, he aborted all his tasks, leaving quite a few wingmen temporarily high and dry. Keith is a good guy and I hope he does decide to come back some day...We all need a break now and then. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
So he had work and abandoned it. lovely. Perhaps the admins advice is getting pushed to the side. They've always said to attach to other projects so that when seti has its downtime(and its had them) that we can still keep out processors crunching away. I get tired of the fair weather friends that insist on telling us they'er leaving. again, Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!! In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
So he had work and abandoned it. lovely. Perhaps the admins advice is getting pushed to the side. They've always said to attach to other projects so that when seti has its downtime(and its had them) that we can still keep out processors crunching away. I get tired of the fair weather friends that insist on telling us they'er leaving. again, Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!! It is just one more. But there is a definate trend of having fewer people crunching. I myself will not be pushed to other projects. Many will not. There are times I wonder if people are trying to move up the charts by being real(chose appropriate term for not nice person here) just so they can try to inch up the charts themselves. I have said it before. Things will even out.. There will be plenty of units to work on for those that are left. I will only go so far as guessing the remaining crunchers will be somewhere between what they are now and zero. A few chased from the boards.. a few of those mention anything. But active users have dropped .. and continue to drop. That does speak of problems. Problems that should be looked into and addressed. Unless someone wants to be a boil on seti's backside, try to bring in at least 1 fresh person for everyone you tell "good riddance". Losing any of us, lessens all of us.(traditional soft spirit quotable) Janice |
nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
i remember when month long outages were nothing special.... evidently people don't know how to cut the box off. in the room i'm sitting in, i have 12 computers i ran in the fall, winter and early spring. it got hot and power bills went up. eleven got cut off. its simple really. honest. |
Hellsheep Send message Joined: 12 Sep 08 Posts: 428 Credit: 784,780 RAC: 0 |
i remember when month long outages were nothing special.... I totally agree with you. Stopping for a month wouldn't do me harm. I'd just continue with other projects for a month or go out and do something else with my life until i can crunch SETI again. :) I want to see the data we've crunched start getting analyzed. :) - Jarryd |
Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
i never intended to leave, just got to clean machine and was supposed to download boinc again, but laziness got in the way, and almost year went by, but now i am back and not going to leave just because of short breaks. absolutely no. |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 |
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CElliott Send message Joined: 19 Jul 99 Posts: 178 Credit: 79,285,961 RAC: 0 |
>>But active users have dropped .. and continue to drop. You are right, the number of active users has been trending downward since 4/24/10 when I started collecting data on it. But the slope of the linear regression trendline is only -0.0093, and the number of active users will not go to zero until 9/24/14 10:50 AM. A lot can happen in 4 years, two months, and a few days. All these GPU-processed workunits -- some users finish them in about 2 1/2 minutes -- have stressed the server beyond the breaking point. They may also have scared off a lot of people who are running older computers. Every time new technology has strained capacity at Berkeley, personnel there have risen to the challenge. Think money and planning. Perhaps elastic cloud computing is the answer. We need a sugar daddy. Will someone please call Warren or Bill? |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Perhaps elastic cloud computing is the answer. We ARE cloud computing. Some of us are not very elastic right now, but we are cloud computing. |
peristalsis Send message Joined: 23 Jul 99 Posts: 154 Credit: 28,610,163 RAC: 51 |
Used to run two machines @ 100% SETI. Then I added Einstein, then Rosetta. Then I shut one machine down entirely (the linux box). Then as outages/downtime became more prevalent, lowered my SETI share so as not to be a pig (g). It's down to 10% now until things get back going. Not in competition, especially when a new GPU can match my dual core with no problem. When things pick up, I'll increase SETI's share. No big deal. I started SETI because it was a good way to stress-test my machine for overclocking...a long time ago and many machines! SETI On! |
gsumners Send message Joined: 13 Sep 00 Posts: 11 Credit: 11,269,005 RAC: 0 |
*shrug* SETI@Home was originally something for my computer to do while I wasn't using it. The screensaver kept my kids entertained from time to time, when they were little. I was a little disappointed when I switched to linux and found that the screensaver I enjoyed in Windows wasn't available, but that wasn't a big deal in the long run. Once I got a twin-core CPU, I ran one core on this task pretty consistently, it's easy enough to do. If I needed the extra grunt, I just switched a few settings around for the duration. After the quad-core upgrade, I decided to dedicate two cores to this 24/7/365. Still no big thing. Just recently upgraded to a six-core CPU, so now have three cores running SETI@Home 24/7/365. Plenty grunt left. Across all this, I only ran out of workunits when everyone else did, and started crunching them again when new ones eventually arrived. I have only a couple things to say to those complaining about a lack of workunits from time to time: you're not getting paid to crunch these workunits, which means all it does is cost you whatever money you decide to expend to support it. If not all your resources are being used for these workunits at a given time, either use them for a different BOINC project or don't. Your electric bill, your choice...and if you leave in a huff because you refuse to comprehend that workunits arrive as available and no faster, it's one less temper tantrum we experience in the forums. The workunits you don't process will eventually get crunched by another user's rig, and they'll get the credit instead of you. Sheesh - some people have an overinflated sense of self-importance. If I don't have workunits, my computer gets things done almost imperceptibly faster. Big deal.... |
alhump Send message Joined: 31 Mar 01 Posts: 2 Credit: 13,827,030 RAC: 0 |
Need a question answered please: I have 15 or so machines running SETI. Some machines are out of work.. others have plenty. Can someone explain to me if: A. Work Units can be copied/moved from one machine to another? B. The names of the work units and the possible directory they are in. If they have a file type, I can locate them and move them. I guess my 'Work Done' is at about 7.2 million credits... I don't want to leave the project but would like to break the 800 barrier if I can keep going.. Then I'll go to another project where I can really make a difference! Thanks Al aka Username - ahumphri |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
A) not if that machine currently has BOINC already installed. otherwise yes it can be done but its not easy or fun. B) on XP the data is stored in Documents and settings/(usually) All users/Application Data/BOINC on vista and 7 is Program data/BOINC you may need to unhide the folders since by default they are hidden. Do you need to move them or just wondering if you can. Yes you can but I'd wait until you upgrade BOINC. Then turn off BOINC move the files and when prompted point BOINC to the Directory you chose. Its also recommended that you dont move the data back into the program files/BOINC. I guess my 'Work Done' is at about 7.2 million credits... I don't want to leave the project but would like to break the 800 barrier if I can keep going.. Then I'll go to another project where I can really make a difference!then why leave at all. just pick a backup or second project and work some on both no harm in spreading the wealth. gsumners Sheesh - some people have an overinflated sense of self-importance. If I don't have workunits, my computer gets things done almost imperceptibly faster. Big deal.... I couldnt agree more. as if telling us they're leaving would make us just beg for them to stay. Thats called dysfunctional. If you want to stay, stay. If you insist on leaving then just go. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
Interesting observation - over at MW they have been outputting WUs at half speed since 5 July, and then "no work available" for about 24 hours now. A quick scan of their Forums shows since 5 July: In "news": 1 post reporting the half speed 5 posts saying "yeah I know" or "thanks" 0 posts complaining, threatening to leave, etc. In "number crunching": 6 posts, the worst of which is "this is ridiculous" The other 5 are humorous, or just "oh well" No threats to leave, or outrage at how users are being treated, etc. What is it about S@H that attracts such a different set of users? |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
higher expectations. or short memories In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30745 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Interesting observation - over at MW they have been outputting WUs at half speed since 5 July, and then "no work available" for about 24 hours now. A quick scan of their Forums shows since 5 July: Because there are those to whom SETI is a religion. |
JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 |
Also there seems to be a lot less using the MW forum. Have no idea how big SETI is compared to MW. |
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