Suggestion Re Daily Quota Message

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Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1417 Credit: 181,665,231 RAC: 159,006	Message 1005242 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 13:23:26 UTC
To the Devs Since it appears that reaching the maximum number of CPU or GPU units (and I suppose eventually AP units) triggers this message. Would it be possible for it to be annotated with the type of unit that's been maxxed out ? e.g. "reached daily quota of xxx CPU tasks" or "reached daily quota of xxx GPU tasks" etc. It would help ease the confusion and give a better indication of the cruncher's performance. Just a thought. Brodo
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7458 Credit: 39,641,945 RAC: 33,268	Message 1005297 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 15:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1005242.
+1 I'll mail them when I get back (at client's site at the moment)
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Francesco Forti Send message Joined: 24 May 00 Posts: 267 Credit: 115,450,954 RAC: 94,810	Message 1005314 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 16:13:05 UTC Last modified: 17 Jun 2010, 16:13:24 UTC
An other suggestion. It is better if SETI does not send any VLAR to GPU. Now that we have separate applications (CPU, NVIDIA GPU) it should be possibile to send VLAR only to CPU. Please, vote this suggestion! :-) FF ____________
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BlueTooth76 (a.k.a. MaGNeT) Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 210 Credit: 10,315,944 RAC: 62	Message 1005328 - Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 17:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 1005314.
An other suggestion. It is better if SETI does not send any VLAR to GPU. Now that we have separate applications (CPU, NVIDIA GPU) it should be possibile to send VLAR only to CPU. Please, vote this suggestion! :-) FF If it's easy to implement, I think it's a very good idea! My CPU likes VLARS, my GPU doesn't...
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40799 Credit: 32,090,212 RAC: 19,267	Message 1005602 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:28:27 UTC
From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6801 Credit: 17,101,170 RAC: 28,161	Message 1005611 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:51:16 UTC Last modified: 18 Jun 2010, 7:52:11 UTC
From my quad which is setup to do MB on CUDA GPU and AP, only, on the CPU, the max quota limit has also been applied to my CPU (AP tasks) downloads. If bugs are not squashed today it will be switched off about 3:00 BST tomorrow morning at the latest. Maybe switched back on when there is enough evidence to say it works correctly.
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msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34138 Credit: 343,730,951 RAC: 541,067	Message 1005614 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 7:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 1005611.
From my quad which is setup to do MB on CUDA GPU and AP, only, on the CPU, the max quota limit has also been applied to my CPU (AP tasks) downloads. If bugs are not squashed today it will be switched off about 3:00 BST tomorrow morning at the latest. Maybe switched back on when there is enough evidence to say it works correctly. You would be holding your breath like the kitties....... I am tempted to shut all down too......but I have always been the stalwart Seti supporter. I suppose I can let the rigs idle a few more days and wait until Eric can bang his fist on somebody's desk hard and long enough to enact a correction. I do hope he doesn't go postal......... ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40799 Credit: 32,090,212 RAC: 19,267	Message 1005760 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 15:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 1005602.
From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around. DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3075 Credit: 341,498 RAC: 85	Message 1005794 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:24:49 UTC - in response to Message 1005760.
DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app. There's a (different) daily quota for each platform. Gruß, Gundolf ____________ Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 2861 Credit: 1,778,689 RAC: 216	Message 1005798 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:29:56 UTC - in response to Message 1005760.
From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around. DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app. I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks. ____________
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40799 Credit: 32,090,212 RAC: 19,267	Message 1005801 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 1005798.
From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around. DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app. I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks. So in other words, It's go to the stock app as the app I have is unwelcome? I see no reason to upgrade as My SSSE3x app works fine and I should not be told to go away or have My concerns ignored. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3075 Credit: 341,498 RAC: 85	Message 1005806 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 17:44:26 UTC - in response to Message 1005801.
So in other words, It's go to the stock app as the app I have is unwelcome? No, Bill Walker was speaking about the anonymous tasks without CPU or Nvidia GPU appended in the list. Gruß, Gundolf
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 2861 Credit: 1,778,689 RAC: 216	Message 1005813 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 1005806. Last modified: 18 Jun 2010, 18:02:14 UTC
Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn. Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days. EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page? ____________
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40799 Credit: 32,090,212 RAC: 19,267	Message 1005816 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 1005813.
Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn. Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days. EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page? "applications details" page? I've looked in My account and I see no "applications details" page at all. Unless You mean Tasks and as to what It says there for My cpu, It says "Anonymous platform - CPU". ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,642,273 RAC: 10,462	Message 1005817 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1005816. Last modified: 18 Jun 2010, 18:18:39 UTC
He means here VW.. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107 Go to your accounts page/computers/details or click on your name here in the forum and it shows up as a link marked here. ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2688 Credit: 7,648,287 RAC: 23,383	Message 1005818 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 1005816.
Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn. Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days. EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page? "applications details" page? I've looked in My account and I see no "applications details" page at all. Unless You mean Tasks and as to what It says there for My cpu, It says "Anonymous platform - CPU". Your Account/Computers on this account "View", then "details" on the computer you want to look at, and then Application details "Show" ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,642,273 RAC: 10,462	Message 1005819 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:21:43 UTC
Oops, click on your name here click on computers click on details and the link button says show. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3744107 ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 2021 Credit: 3,027,755 RAC: 6,570	Message 1005820 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 1005816.
This is the info they talk about (for your computer # 3744107) Application info for host 3744107 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107 ____________ - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40799 Credit: 32,090,212 RAC: 19,267	Message 1005821 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:29:24 UTC Last modified: 18 Jun 2010, 18:29:57 UTC
Since I have only one app, One of these is lying and I think It's the bottom one. SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown) Number of tasks completed 34 Max tasks per day 34 Number of tasks today 0 Consecutive valid tasks 34 Average turnaround time 3.98 days SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU) Number of tasks completed 144 Max tasks per day 244 Number of tasks today 254 Consecutive valid tasks 144 Average turnaround time 1.03 days ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40799 Credit: 32,090,212 RAC: 19,267	Message 1005822 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 18:42:51 UTC
Here's a picture for You all, The Quota is fiction and works terrible. And that's al I have, If the server says I have some cpu work, Then It's a fat lie. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
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Terror Australis
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To the Devs
Since it appears that reaching the maximum number of CPU or GPU units (and I suppose eventually AP units) triggers this message. Would it be possible for it to be annotated with the type of unit that's been maxxed out ?

e.g.
"reached daily quota of xxx CPU tasks" or "reached daily quota of xxx GPU tasks" etc.

It would help ease the confusion and give a better indication of the cruncher's performance. Just a thought.

Brodo

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Richard Haselgrove

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+1

I'll mail them when I get back (at client's site at the moment)

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An other suggestion.

It is better if SETI does not send any VLAR to GPU.
Now that we have separate applications (CPU, NVIDIA GPU) it should be possibile to send VLAR only to CPU.

Please, vote this suggestion! :-)

FF
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An other suggestion.

It is better if SETI does not send any VLAR to GPU.
Now that we have separate applications (CPU, NVIDIA GPU) it should be possibile to send VLAR only to CPU.

Please, vote this suggestion! :-)

FF

If it's easy to implement, I think it's a very good idea!
My CPU likes VLARS, my GPU doesn't...

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From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.
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From my quad which is setup to do MB on CUDA GPU and AP, only, on the CPU, the max quota limit has also been applied to my CPU (AP tasks) downloads.

If bugs are not squashed today it will be switched off about 3:00 BST tomorrow morning at the latest.

Maybe switched back on when there is enough evidence to say it works correctly.

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From my quad which is setup to do MB on CUDA GPU and AP, only, on the CPU, the max quota limit has also been applied to my CPU (AP tasks) downloads.

If bugs are not squashed today it will be switched off about 3:00 BST tomorrow morning at the latest.

Maybe switched back on when there is enough evidence to say it works correctly.

You would be holding your breath like the kitties.......

I am tempted to shut all down too......but I have always been the stalwart Seti supporter. I suppose I can let the rigs idle a few more days and wait until Eric can bang his fist on somebody's desk hard and long enough to enact a correction.

I do hope he doesn't go postal.........
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From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.
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DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.

There's a (different) daily quota for each platform.

Gruß,
Gundolf
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From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.

I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks.
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From here the DQM looks like mere wishful thinking, As I have about 4 hours worth of work left and barring a small miracle, I'll be out before morning comes around.

DQM is at 244 and still no work for the anonymous platform, Only for the stock app.

I think the "anonymous" platform is old units, sent out before SETI distingushed between CPU and GPU platforms. I don't expect to ever see more of those, all we will get will be CPU or GPU platforms. "Anonymous" should shrivel up and die over the next few days or weeks.

So in other words, It's go to the stock app as the app I have is unwelcome? I see no reason to upgrade as My SSSE3x app works fine and I should not be told to go away or have My concerns ignored.
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So in other words, It's go to the stock app as the app I have is unwelcome?

No, Bill Walker was speaking about the anonymous tasks without CPU or Nvidia GPU appended in the list.

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Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn.

Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days.

EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page?
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Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn.

Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days.

EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page?

"applications details" page? I've looked in My account and I see no "applications details" page at all. Unless You mean Tasks and as to what It says there for My cpu, It says "Anonymous platform - CPU".
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He means here VW.. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107

Go to your accounts page/computers/details or click on your name here in the forum and it shows up as a link marked here.
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Ja, das ist korrekt Herr Jahn.

Victor, I was talking about the "anonymous platform, Unknown" that show up on the new "applications details" page. Sorry, my post was a little confusing. What platforms do you see on your Applications details, and what are the various quota?. Right now I have a quota of 8 for anonymous platform, Unknown and 108 for anonymous platform, CPU. But I still only get about one WU every 2 or 3 hours, and haven't had more than 2 WUs on my machine at the same day for several days.

EDIT - I think "Anonymous" in all this means an optimized ap, since that is what I'm running. Do folks with stock aps see something different on the new page?

"applications details" page? I've looked in My account and I see no "applications details" page at all. Unless You mean Tasks and as to what It says there for My cpu, It says "Anonymous platform - CPU".

Your Account/Computers on this account "View", then "details" on the computer you want to look at, and then Application details "Show"

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Oops, click on your name here click on computers click on details and the link button says show. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3744107
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This is the info they talk about (for your computer # 3744107)
Application info for host 3744107
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=3744107

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Since I have only one app, One of these is lying and I think It's the bottom one.

SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, Unknown) Number of tasks completed 34 Max tasks per day 34 Number of tasks today 0 Consecutive valid tasks 34 Average turnaround time 3.98 days SETI@home Enhanced (anonymous platform, CPU) Number of tasks completed 144 Max tasks per day 244 Number of tasks today 254 Consecutive valid tasks 144 Average turnaround time 1.03 days

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Here's a picture for You all, The Quota is fiction and works terrible.

And that's al I have, If the server says I have some cpu work, Then It's a fat lie.
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