Got this last week but everytime I try to run a GPU work unit on it for Seti it fails around 10secs in with a "computation error"

Does Seti not work on the 480?

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Perhaps shiffing around, like few threads bellow, u'll find the answers.

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Go look in GTX 480 crunch card

Seems I cannot get a straight helpful answer which is disappointing.

I will try one of the Boinc Beta clients to see if that works - if not I will just stop crunching Seti and use it on another project.

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Seti doesn't work on teh Nvidia GPU's and one person even gave you a link to the thread that actually discusses this very topic. Sorry if some a poster was less than forthcoming with information. This is fairly worked over topic and every person that gets a 400 series card asks the same question. So please understand some posters get frustrated when a user doesn't read a few forum threads before posting their own repeat topic.

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Diogenes Of Sinope

Seems I cannot get a straight helpful answer which is disappointing..

Which part of Read the other threads didn't you understand?, why do a new thread about 480 GTX's when there's threads on the about them on the 1st page anyway?,

I will try one of the Boinc Beta clients to see if that works - if not I will just stop crunching Seti and use it on another project.

Trying a Boinc Alpha client won't help even through there are Fermi fixes in them, But trying Seti Beta's Fermi app or the Lunatics V13 app might get you crunching, again look in the other threads.

Claggy

Seems I cannot get a straight helpful answer which is disappointing.

I will try one of the Boinc Beta clients to see if that works - if not I will just stop crunching Seti and use it on another project.

It is rather unfortunate that this board is not as friendly as it once was...I guess you are expected to wade thru the only one other thread I see on it...it only has 231 posts to wade thru. I am sure this extra thread is really clogging things up.
Now something like pendings has been gone over and over but I really don't think this topic has and I don't blame him for feeling dissed.
JMO

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Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

Seems I cannot get a straight helpful answer which is disappointing.

I will try one of the Boinc Beta clients to see if that works - if not I will just stop crunching Seti and use it on another project.

It is rather unfortunate that this board is not as friendly as it once was...I guess you are expected to wade thru the only one other thread I see on it...it only has 231 posts to wade thru. I am sure this extra thread is really clogging things up.
Now something like pendings has been gone over and over but I really don't think this topic has and I don't blame him for feeling dissed.
JMO

I linked to the other thread, because I don't, and probably never will have, a bleeding edge gpu, but I have looked at the thread and know that some people have got it working.
Therefore I have no real knowledge of the details and that showing him the place where the answer possibly could be found was probably the best way. Considering that the OP was too idle to read a few thread headings.

I actually found it strange that coming back here a few hours later the mods hadn't closed this thread and subsumed it within the original.

As time permits I will help out anyone that has purchased a new Nvidia GTX-480/470 to get it to work with S@H. The other threads do contain useful information that should be considered prior to installing these new cards.

Firstly, please drain your cache (or move them to a different folder) of WU's to stave off the chance that your work units will get nuked.

Second, the only sucessful client I have been able to use is the .43 version on 64bit Windows. If you are using 32bit version I don't know if it will work properly now. I'm only speaking from my own experience.

Thirdly, there may be files that must be downloaded that may or may not be available at this time - I will do my best to point you in the direction where to find these files.

Fourthly, please don't have your cards overclocked or running outside of spec so that you may properly gauge if they are working properly or not. I don't know what the results are if you have your in SLI - I haven't tried this configuration.

Fifthly, don't expect these cards to blow everything out of the water - average work units take 9-10min with the current generation of apps.

And lastly, cooling of these cards is essential and so is powering them with enought juice- you will have problems completing computation if your temps go over 85c - there are limits to every component that must be considered.

There are members of GPU Users Group that do have these cards and are more than willing to assist in getting you up and running properly. You may even consider joining our team.

If someone is struggling - please review the above expectations and then PM me so that we can both advance the science and the technology of this project.

Warmly - Todd

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It is rather unfortunate that this board is not as friendly as it once was...I guess you are expected to wade thru the only one other thread I see on it...it only has 231 posts to wade thru. I am sure this extra thread is really clogging things up.
Now something like pendings has been gone over and over but I really don't think this topic has and I don't blame him for feeling dissed.
JMO

Isn't the GTX 480 considered to be really, really new? Therefore, if you pick one up and expect to crunch on it, perhaps it's reasonable to expect that you will have to do some homework first?

Maybe it's just me though, and it's normal to expect plug and play capability as soon as it launches. (shrug)

plug and play video games and the usual GUI? yes. Using the GPU to process something that wasn't directly intended for a GPU? no.

It's also quite understandable that since Nvidia created the APp for the CUDA cards that maybe they could have created one for the 4XX series as well or better yet given the Seti folks a heads up that the New GPU's don't Run the seti CUDA app at all.

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Diogenes Of Sinope

plug and play video games and the usual GUI? yes. Using the GPU to process something that wasn't directly intended for a GPU? no.

It's also quite understandable that since Nvidia created the APp for the CUDA cards that maybe they could have created one for the 4XX series as well or better yet given the Seti folks a heads up that the New GPU's don't Run the seti CUDA app at all.

In short We were in My opinion, blindsided by Nviduh, possibly. Lovely. :rollseyes:

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

Isn't the GTX 480 considered to be really, really new? Therefore, if you pick one up and expect to crunch on it, perhaps it's reasonable to expect that you will have to do some homework first? ...

That's right, and on top of being new cards, they are also a completely new architecture (programming model-wise). That means 'legacy' applications, if they run at all, will most certainly be suboptimal in many cases. Likely this will remain the state of play until optimisers can lay their hands on a more affordable variant, and have sufficient time to come to grips with the tools & techniques. It's easy to forget that the whole general purpose GPU compute thing isn't that old (compared to regular CPU programming), and derives from supercomputing architectures that used to cost millions of dollars as recently as 15 years ago.

Jason

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

May I offer up a suggestion. See I have one of these 480s on the way and now I am finding out it doesnt work.

I have read through the provided link and its a babbling mess. If this issues is as prominant as it is then something, like a sticky or something, should be created to help us out.

We are donating our time, and presumibly a lot of processing power to this project. For people to be dissing us because they "dont have bleeding edge GPUs" is a bit bitter and short sighted.

People are just trying to get help, that is all.

I guess you'd like to tell you that you can't run seti before the cards are even released to the public. You want us to know ahead of your spending $$$ on an absolutely new type of GPU that it will or wont work for BOINC/seti. Buy a GPU to play a game on not for seti. If you've been around at all you'll have seen that Nvidia made the CUDA app for seti and made sure they rubbed our noses in it. Perhaps you should run over to the Nvidia forums and complain. If anyone is at fault it would be them. Perhaps you could mention the amount of money you've clearly wasted on the dream of actually using their card with the intent of only crunching WU's. Seti didn't make any guarantee that your new high $$$ card would work on seti.

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Diogenes Of Sinope

I guess you'd like to tell you that you can't run seti before the cards are even released to the public. You want us to know ahead of your spending $$$ on an absolutely new type of GPU that it will or wont work for BOINC/seti. Buy a GPU to play a game on not for seti. If you've been around at all you'll have seen that Nvidia made the CUDA app for seti and made sure they rubbed our noses in it. Perhaps you should run over to the Nvidia forums and complain. If anyone is at fault it would be them. Perhaps you could mention the amount of money you've clearly wasted on the dream of actually using their card with the intent of only crunching WU's. Seti didn't make any guarantee that your new high $$$ card would work on seti.

Like Nviduh will care(fat lot of good complaining will do, We don't buy their expensive tesla and quadro cards), We don't according to them spend enough money on cards compared to the vast numbers of gamers(cuda is more PR than substance to them I'd think), So they get cards, We get the old mine shaft and It's deep, dark and damp down there. :D

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My sympathy for everyone who has been burned on this issue.

Something though that is grudgingly being acknowledged - "that's capitalism" in a fashion. If crunching were as attractive a market to sell into there would be SETI brand Nvidia cards I wager.

A capitalist will make money if there is money to be made. Given we are a fringe, then there's no money to be made, ergo, where would you put your scarce R&D dollars if you were them? ATI is trying to eat your lunch and you have to punch back with something. Why would you essentially stuff your cards with expensive additions that no gamer will get the benefit of for the smallest fraction of a market that would actually be willing to pay for?

I too wish it weren't the case as I am looking over the counter nearly each day at the moment scanning the shelves for something better than an 8800 GT to replace an aging 9800 GX2. Alas I didn't buy anything soon enough before the 4xx series drove anything 2xx off the shelves.

I do feel for anyone who plunked down major coin for a card that is a gamer's dream but a cruncher's door stop. Only thing that can be done is sell it and hope to reap a good portion of the money spent or wait it out and see if there is a software solution in the offing - but not one that you can hold your breath waiting for.

Sorry to be a downer but I thought it had to be said - I repeat, I do honestly feel the pain myself too. We live in an economy that maximizes profit and minimizes its costs of producing. Wonderful that CUDA has been such a boon to us but unfortunately we haven't been profitable enough of a sector for anyone to cater to us.

That's just bidness.

Regards,

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Just a suggestion. If more people with these cards would attach to beta and test if the app for them there works, it might be released sooner, then we'd get code sooner & see what changes are made... a cycle you see.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

My sympathy for everyone who has been burned on this issue.

Something though that is grudgingly being acknowledged - "that's capitalism" in a fashion. If crunching were as attractive a market to sell into there would be SETI brand Nvidia cards I wager.

A capitalist will make money if there is money to be made. Given we are a fringe, then there's no money to be made, ergo, where would you put your scarce R&D dollars if you were them? ATI is trying to eat your lunch and you have to punch back with something. Why would you essentially stuff your cards with expensive additions that no gamer will get the benefit of for the smallest fraction of a market that would actually be willing to pay for?

I too wish it weren't the case as I am looking over the counter nearly each day at the moment scanning the shelves for something better than an 8800 GT to replace an aging 9800 GX2. Alas I didn't buy anything soon enough before the 4xx series drove anything 2xx off the shelves.

I do feel for anyone who plunked down major coin for a card that is a gamer's dream but a cruncher's door stop. Only thing that can be done is sell it and hope to reap a good portion of the money spent or wait it out and see if there is a software solution in the offing - but not one that you can hold your breath waiting for.

Sorry to be a downer but I thought it had to be said - I repeat, I do honestly feel the pain myself too. We live in an economy that maximizes profit and minimizes its costs of producing. Wonderful that CUDA has been such a boon to us but unfortunately we haven't been profitable enough of a sector for anyone to cater to us.

That's just bidness.

Regards,

May You not have any termites in Yer boat. :D

Yeah, ATi, they may gain share here as soon as an app for the 58xx series comes out that will do Seti@Home and I don't mean Astro, No dogs are allowed here in this house, Cats yeah, Their cool.

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Just a suggestion. If more people with these cards would attach to beta and test if the app for them there works, it might be released sooner, then we'd get code sooner & see what changes are made... a cycle you see.

As soon as I do, Sure, Why not, As I do have two PCs when I get the 2nd PC up and running, So far I still need ram, cpu cooling and dust filters, Those come first, then the 470, I'm looking at Galaxy and their non reference design, Also at Gainward and their longer non reference 470. eventually in late 2011.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's