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Message 972657 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 5:42:27 UTC - in response to Message 972643.
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That is not newsworthy.


Translated - Nobody ever lost a dime because SETI wasn't available.

I'm saying that the BOINC client expects outages.

It is the people who are fickle, and thin-skinned, and apparently, see the impending destruction of civilization in the most trivial hiccups.

With Amazon, those fickle consumers are an integral part of the process.

With BOINC, it will run fine without the slightest bit of supervision.

When the project servers are down, work continues.
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Message 972661 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 5:49:05 UTC - in response to Message 972653.

That is not newsworthy.


Translated - Nobody ever lost a dime because SETI wasn't available.

Translate this...........
Got it?

It is newsworthy to ME.

Yes, and if you could gain just a little bit of perspective, you'd be much happier.

"The first sign of a nervous breakdown is when you start thinking your work is terribly important." -- Milo Bloom
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Message 972672 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 6:10:54 UTC - in response to Message 972662.


Ned....
May I cry now?

8 rigs chugging along...one has not been able to phone home since the 16th.
No reporting, no new work.

Please don't belittle one who cares so much about a simple science project.
I have donated hours of my life and countless dollars to it.

And it hurts me that things have gone bad.

Not a life-changing thing, but it does affect me more than some realize.

Hope you can understand that.

I doubt that anyone can influence what you do.

The problem is, I do realize how much this affects you.

This stuff is cool, this stuff is fun, you're supposed to enjoy it.

When it becomes an obsession, that is not healthy.

When you start threatening people because they point out that you really should take a deep breath and try to relax, that's not healthy.

You've done some really interesting stuff -- but you need to get a grip on what it all means.

It's a hobby. It is not your life.
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Message 972678 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 6:28:58 UTC - in response to Message 972676.


It's a hobby. It is not your life.

And THAT, exactly, is where you and I disagree.

It does happen to be my life.

Seti and kitties.

Can you hear me now?

Yes, I do. It's sad.
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Message 972699 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 7:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 972684.

I'm with you on this one, Kman.

Right now, SETI sucks!
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Message 972711 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 8:15:11 UTC

Time to take either a chill pill or group therapy folks, this is starting to get a little ridiculous. ET will still be out there whether it takes us a day longer to find him/her or not, so sit back, relax, enjoy the weekend, maybe tune into the Olympics since they only happen every four years (offset by two), and just be happy. Thing'll get fixed by next week - just wait one or two more days until then...

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Message 972712 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 8:35:52 UTC - in response to Message 972711.

Time to take either a chill pill or group therapy folks, this is starting to get a little ridiculous. ET will still be out there whether it takes us a day longer to find him/her or not, so sit back, relax, enjoy the weekend, maybe tune into the Olympics since they only happen every four years (offset by two), and just be happy. Thing'll get fixed by next week - just wait one or two more days until then...

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Quoted For Truth.

For the past several days, I had specified no new tasks for SETI@home. Tonight, I just downloaded a day's worth of work units for my gpu(s) just to chew on until tomorrow. After those are completed, I will specify no new tasks, again, at least for a while.

My electricity usage is significantly higher when processing CUDA work units 24/7, but it's a choice I make. I don't need a pat on the back for my contributions of electricity, computing power, or monetary donations to SETI@home. I'm glad to have the opportunity to help out when I can.

If there are technical problems occurring at SETI@home, they will eventually be resolved. I don't lose any sleep over it. It'll get fixed.

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Message 972714 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 8:43:05 UTC

From Denmark:


Microsoft Windows [version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. Alle rettigheder forbeholdes.

C:\Users\Nikoline>pathping 208.68.240.16 boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu

Sporer rute til boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.18]
over et maksimum af 30 hop:
0 Ingen ressourcer.

C:\Users\Nikoline>


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Message 972716 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 8:45:17 UTC

Does anyone know for sure that SETI isn't run and funded by some gov org?

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Message 972717 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 8:59:33 UTC - in response to Message 972716.

Does anyone know for sure that SETI isn't run and funded by some gov org?

If you go to the home page and click on Donate or on the link in this post, it will take you to a page that has your answer on the first line. Even the signal recording is mostly idle time on the dish or shared time allocated to someone else when the dish is being used in a way that provides useful data. People donate hardware, money and sometimes even their services such as software developer. This is truly a labor of love because there is no money in it.
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Message 972727 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 9:55:26 UTC


From Bulgaria (on Win98):


Ping -l 1000 -t 64.71.140.42

Pinging 64.71.140.42 with 1000 bytes of data:

.........
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=253ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=252ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=246ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=244
Reply from 64.71.140.42: bytes=1000 time=251ms TTL=244
.........

Ping statistics for 64.71.140.42:
Packets: Sent = 556, Received = 556, Lost = 0 (0% loss)

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 236ms, Maximum = 505ms, Average = 256ms

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Ping -l 1000 -t 208.68.243.254

Pinging 208.68.243.254 with 1000 bytes of data:

.........
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=248ms TTL=243
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=245ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=248ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=249ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=252ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=242
Reply from 208.68.243.254: bytes=1000 time=246ms TTL=243
.........

Ping statistics for 208.68.243.254:
Packets: Sent = 158, Received = 110, Lost = 48 (30% loss)

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 244ms, Maximum = 448ms, Average = 178ms



As you can see the problem starts at 208.68.243.254

(and it is not "ISP blocking somehow SETI@home trafic" as Ping has nothing to do with "SETI@home trafic")


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Message 972745 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 12:00:03 UTC - in response to Message 972727.

In this business I am am surprised with the following: why there is no reaction of officials to problems of participants. On the main page was post on February, 17th - it have cleaned. On status page all is fine (though decrease in quantity of the accepted tasks obviously). The fifth day set of volunteers cannot work on the project (that obviously in the statistican), and official explanations, apologies and assurances of aspiration to solve a problem I do not see. I consider it as disrespect for efforts of volunteers. If organizers have addressed for the help and have invited to teamwork thereby have incurred responsibility. Here above wrote that this project not is absolutely vital thing for volunteers it is true, but council to be switched to the alternative project I consider incorrect, belittling value of efforts of volunteers. Working in the project as the volunteer, I consider myself have the right to count on the attentive relation to efficiency of my work timely informing on an essence of problems and a course of their elimination.
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Message 972748 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 12:11:58 UTC - in response to Message 972745.

Are servers still down?
I can't upload anything since friday.

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Message 972753 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 12:51:39 UTC

Well, the server Bambi is disabled, as fare as I can see.
I'm getting this message lately:

Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.
But I've marked all application in my settings. Weired ain't it? :-D
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Message 972756 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 13:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 972748.
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Uploads, Reporting, and downloads have had scheduling problems since last Sunday afternoon. Admins are aware of the situation and are working on it. Uploads and reporting ARE going through exteremely slow but are moving. So patience is the watchword at this time.AP workunits are scarcer than hen's teeth but mb stuff is available.

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Message 972758 - Posted: 21 Feb 2010, 13:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 972712.

Time to take either a chill pill or group therapy folks, this is starting to get a little ridiculous. ET will still be out there whether it takes us a day longer to find him/her or not, so sit back, relax, enjoy the weekend, maybe tune into the Olympics since they only happen every four years (offset by two), and just be happy. Thing'll get fixed by next week - just wait one or two more days until then...

Intergalactic peace~ (~please~)

Quoted For Truth.

For the past several days, I had specified no new tasks for SETI@home. Tonight, I just downloaded a day's worth of work units for my gpu(s) just to chew on until tomorrow. After those are completed, I will specify no new tasks, again, at least for a while.

My electricity usage is significantly higher when processing CUDA work units 24/7, but it's a choice I make. I don't need a pat on the back for my contributions of electricity, computing power, or monetary donations to SETI@home. I'm glad to have the opportunity to help out when I can.

If there are technical problems occurring at SETI@home, they will eventually be resolved. I don't lose any sleep over it. It'll get fixed.

Would you do a pathping 208.68.240.16? Did it go through the first time?
I still have some tasks that haven’t gone through for over a week, and are going to expire in four days. Currently cannot get any tasks for SETI.

An aside, and not to brag, but at least fifty percent of my crunching is done with home generated solar power. I’m glad the days are getting longer.

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