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gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 |
Been testing 195.62 on my 2 rigs for the past few days. One has Win7-64HP on it and a GTX260 and an 8800GTX in it. It kept stopping with 'Nvidia driver has stopped working but successfully recovered'. Everytime it did this it started a new GPU WU, with the effect that I had approx. 70 part started. The other has Vista-32HP on it and was working OK. Tried re-installing drivers, didn't make any difference. When it stopped 3 times in an hour, I'd finally had enough. It's not stable enough for me. I know 196.xx has come out recently too, but I've gone back to 191.07 on both machines until I can find out if 196.xx is stable on other peoples' machines before I try it on mine again. Just wanted to know if others have had the same problem and to inform as well. regards, Gizbar. A proud GPU User Server Donor! |
Zebra3 Send message Joined: 22 Oct 01 Posts: 186 Credit: 13,658,148 RAC: 0 |
I have been using 195.62 since they came out and have all my cards OCed with no problems. They are moderate cards though which may be the difference. I did upgrade to 196.21 on one of my machines with no problems so far. All of my rigs run 24/7 and are diferent OS. http://www.novascotia.com |
Phil J Taylor Send message Joined: 26 Dec 09 Posts: 96 Credit: 603,521 RAC: 0 |
I also use 195.62 with 64-bit Vista/Ult (GTS 250) and Win 7/Ult (two GTS 220's). I had noticed a driver crash and recovery on Win 7 when I resized a window before I installed Boinc. Haven't had any problems while crunching. No problems seen with Vista. From what I have read, I think 195.62 is slower than earlier versions. |
Sutaru Tsureku Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 |
Not all new is better than the old.. ;-) My own test showed that 190.x is faster than 191.x and much faster than 195.x . From reading the forums, 196.x also isn't faster. So why to use the newest driver if it's slower? I have WinXP 32bit. WinXP, the best/fastest/stable (MS) crunching OS! :-D ____________ [Optimized project applications, for to increase your PC performance (double RAC)!][Overview of abbreviations, which are used often in forum and their meaning.] |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Been testing 195.62 on my 2 rigs for the past few days. It's been on here quite a bit, the newer drivers are slower, not worth using, if you are using your machine is slower than it needs to be! Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I have been using 195.62 since they came out and have all my cards OCed with no problems. They are moderate cards though which may be the difference. I did upgrade to 196.21 on one of my machines with no problems so far. All of my rigs run 24/7 and are diferent OS. Why? It has been tested and proven that the new drivers are SLOWER than the older ones on current gen cards. Why? You can get a few percent back just by rolling back to the older drivers. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
rollem, rollem, keep them kitties rollin, furrballllllll... sorry its the darvocet singing... |
nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
to make ammends for my performance last evening.... here is the link to find "archived" drivers for your cuda cards. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
to make ammends for my performance last evening.... Maybe you should get your wife some flowers? ROFL. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
she just had a hip replacement.... flowers and plants all over the place... looks like a rainforest here.... and she's on way better drugs... |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
ROFL, reminds me of the joke about Valium..."They were awesome until I found out they were for me and not the kids....." Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
I've certainly written my share of fast code that wasn't always safe -- that didn't always produce the right result, or crashed from time to time. Every developer has done that. That's why newer drivers could get slower -- sometimes you have to give up speed for stability and functionality. |
gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 |
Update... Since I started this thread 2 days ago, I haven't had a single fail with the 191.07 drivers. They have been solid on both machines. It wasn't my explicit choice either. They, (the 195's) got bumped through on a windows update, and although I wasn't best pleased with that (mainly because I didn't take enough notice at the time, I thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and try them for a bit). It went well for a little while, then the crashes on the 64-bit machine started the whole saga. They were stable on the 32-bit machine, but I wanted them both on the same version. regards, Gizbar. A proud GPU User Server Donor! |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
That's why newer drivers could get slower -- sometimes you have to give up speed for stability and functionality. Yup - I was having a prob on one of my machines - GTS 250 would crash, then all succeeding WUs for it would crash out (GPU memory problem) - happened 3 times over a month or so. I upgraded to 195 when I could, and haven't had any crashes for several months now. So, yeah, stability over speed.... |
gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 |
That was similar to the problem I was having with the Vista machine before I upgraded it to Vista, even though the version was 191.07, same as I'm using now. It would sometimes fail on the gfx card (a 9800GTX+, wonder if that's a coincidence?) and then trash loads of work units. It was on XP Home. When I updated to Vista, the gfx drivers have been rock solid, and my problems with my wireless connection have been sorted as well. So far, my experience of Vista has been good, and I find it no slower than XP. In fact, this test here provides some unexpected results with Vista. regards, Gizbar. A proud GPU User Server Donor! |
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