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Message 963279 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 18:18:45 UTC

i recently bought the intel i7 920 for my new desktop(using stock cooler),ran speedfan to test the temp and saw that the at idling all cores ran at about 95-100 celsius but did the same when at load with seti running so reapplied thermal compound i bought from artic silver and temp is still the same in both conditions,i would like to know if anyone else sees these kinds of temps or is it normal?
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Message 963282 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 18:22:21 UTC - in response to Message 963279.  

Too hot, see my other thread about how hot do you run your i7....
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Message 963286 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 18:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 963279.  
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I would test it also with CoreTemp or RealTemp.

The idle temp is less than full load temp.
If not, the mobo or the CPU is broken.

You have the 'idle function/power saving mode' (EIST, C1E) (less CPU multi/Vcore) in BIOS disabled?

AFAIK, from reading this forum and saw some screenshots of CoreTemp.
The throttle temp (Tj.Max) of a Core i7 920 is 105 °C (Core temp).


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Message 963288 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 18:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 963286.  

tested it with both programs and they both said hot ,realtemp said i was around 1-2 away from tj max as well,and not sure about the mobo and cpu being broken they seem to be working just fine
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Message 963289 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 19:02:31 UTC
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You might want to consider getting rid of that stock heatsink and retrofitting with even a modestly priced aftermarket one....it should drop your temps dramatically.

Also, make sure that the fan on your stock unit is running at full speed and not being slowed down by a bios or speedfan setting.

EDIT----If I recall correctly, the stock cooler for my i7 965 had a switch on it for quiet or performance speed...check to see if yours does.
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Message 963299 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 19:30:34 UTC

Don't have an i7, but if the stock cooler is like all the older ones, it uses push-pins to seat in the MB? If so, maybe one isn't holding correctly. I saw this on one of my OCZ Vendetta2 coolers, which I fixed by replacing the push pins with a screw-down kit. Don't know if you can do that with the stock cooler, but as msattler says, an aftermarket cooler should help out, look for one that doesn't use the push-pins. With temps like you're seeing, I'd guess the cooler isn't seating properly...

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Message 963300 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 19:31:06 UTC

Id agree get your self an after market cooloer I would suggest http://www.quietpc.com/files/images/products/ac-freezerxtreme2-large.jpg Arctic Cooling Freezer Extreme Pro rev2.0 you can get them cheap at Quiet Pc if your from the UK, if not google is your friend im sure you will find one at a good price, I have one of these and it brought my temp down by 21'c on average over a 24hr test!

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Message 963308 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 963279.  

i recently bought the intel i7 920 for my new desktop(using stock cooler),ran speedfan to test the temp and saw that the at idling all cores ran at about 95-100 celsius but did the same when at load with seti running so reapplied thermal compound i bought from artic silver and temp is still the same in both conditions,i would like to know if anyone else sees these kinds of temps or is it normal?


Wait, did you apply thermal paste with the stock heatsink? The stock one includes a thermal strip on the bottom of the heatsink already; adding more will definitely cause the chip to run hot.
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Message 963309 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 963308.  

Correct DJ you should nenver apply more thermal paste to a pre pasted Headtsink, its pre pasted for a reason! Sounds like you got some major problems there fusky, the heatsink is seated proberly isn't it I know they do take some pushing down to get seated, but really if your going to be running seti you cant run with a stock cooler!

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Message 963310 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:09:59 UTC - in response to Message 963308.  
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no i cleaned off the thermal paste using Coffey filter and rubbing alcohol,and applied new thermal paste using a strip going across the cores and ive ran seti using a laptop and old pc with stock cooling with no problem
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Message 963311 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:11:37 UTC

It sounds to me that the temp sensor is faulty if the temps don't change from idle to load. Try reading the sink temp with a digital thermometer and see if it's even close to your reported temps. If not.. you found the culprit. Check your warranty if it covers it.
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Message 963317 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:21:01 UTC - in response to Message 963310.  

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Message 963318 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 963310.  

no i cleaned off the thermal paste using Coffey filter and rubbing alcohol,and applied new thermal paste using a strip going across the cores and ive ran seti using a laptop and old pc with stock cooling with no problem

If you run CPU-Z does it report the CPU is running at it's correct speed? If it's near it's thermal max it might be running in a lower power state in order to preserve itself.
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Message 963320 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 963317.  
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after reapplying thermal paste for 3rd or 4th time and making sure fan is secure inall cores avg around 80 Celsius at idling
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Message 963321 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:26:03 UTC - in response to Message 963288.  
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tested it with both programs and they both said hot ,realtemp said i was around 1-2 away from tj max as well,and not sure about the mobo and cpu being broken they seem to be working just fine


Yes, sure - for the moment.
BUT in some days/hours you have maybe a cooked CPU. Damaged and not possible to replace under warranty.
Maybe the shop/seller say, you increased too much the Vcore - 'because you OCed'..

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Message 963322 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:34:29 UTC - in response to Message 963320.  
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after reapplying thermal paste for 3rd or 4th time and making sure fan is secure inall cores avg around 80 Celsius at idling

Is the heat sink warm to the touch? Even with the cores at 80C it should be pretty hot.
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Message 963323 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:38:22 UTC - in response to Message 963322.  
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heat sink is warm not hot to touch just warm
edit..-cpu-z says core voltage at 1.248v,2800.1mhz,x21 multiplier
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Message 963326 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:44:21 UTC
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That's far too hot for idling. You should be getting no more than 10-15 celsius above your ambient temp at idling.

For instance, my 955 idles at about 33-34 celsius, room temp is approx 20 celsius. Under load it is approx 48 celsius, running 4 Seti tasks, and a hot GPU running another just beneath it. And that's at 3.6Ghz, not 3.2 as stock.

There is something seriously wrong there. If you can, try the CPU in another motherboard (maybe a friend's?). Or try their CPU in your motherboard. I would also check that you have enough air flowing through the case.

Either, you have fitted the heatsink wrong, the CPU is faulty in some way, or the motherboard is faulty.

You can run Seti on the stock cooler if you are not overclocking, but I'd suggest getting something better, especially if a) you are going to overclock, or b) you are going to run it 24/7.

There are loads of better coolers out there than the stock one. Try NEWEGG!!

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Message 963331 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:55:35 UTC - in response to Message 963323.  
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heat sink is warm not hot to touch just warm
edit..-cpu-z says core voltage at 1.248v,2800.1mhz,x21 multiplier


??

I thought the 920 is @ 2.67 GHz?

So you OC?

I don't know the stock/normal Vcore, but maybe your mobo increased automatically (maybe AUTO Vcore in BIOS?) ?


EDIT: Or you speak about your 860? But in your first message you spoke about a (your) 920.


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Message 963333 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 21:01:08 UTC
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For comparison my i5 750 that has been on for 24hrs now is currently at:



It doesn't deviate from these temps much, only maybe 1-2 'c at most all day!



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