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Message 923548 - Posted: 4 Aug 2009, 9:41:38 UTC

@Johnney
I read that the (cumulative) amount of data of the Berkeley-export may be a problem for using it. What if you strip all the crunchers from the data-file that do not compete in the Gauntlet? That way you will only need to retain a fraction of the export-data!
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Message 923721 - Posted: 5 Aug 2009, 8:37:38 UTC

Update: The donation challenge is now at $ 834 (€ 580)
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Message 924750 - Posted: 8 Aug 2009, 21:59:16 UTC

Let's roll, the Gauntlet will be starting on September the 25th.

All info can be found on: http://www.seti.nl/content.php?c=gauntlet_2009&language=1

Inform your team, create a gauntlet subteam and enter it here: http://forum.seti.nl/showthread.php?t=15487 before September the 18th.

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Message 925117 - Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 11:03:06 UTC

In honer of 10 years SETI@HOME (and of our team ;) we're organizing the SETI@Netherlands 10th Anniversary Gauntlet together with PADDY'S IN SPACE.

The needed statistics are nearing its completion:
stats provided by SETI@Netherlands
stats provided by PADDY'S IN SPACE
(both stats will be reset on the start of the Gauntlet)

=====> You can sign up here <===== (signup closes on September the 18th)
By mentioning:
- Team name
- Country (if you're the founder)
- your user ID

When will the Gauntlet start?
25th of September 2009 (the 10 Anniversary day of S@NL)

=====> more info & rules <=====

Spread the word!
The more participating (sub)teams the more fun it will be, sign up, start a topic on your team-forum => spread the word!

Ow, PS: The SETI@Netherlands donation challenge is now at $ 887 :D (€ 625)
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Message 925333 - Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 8:28:33 UTC

Eric Korpela (posted 3 Oct 2008 in Thread 'SETI@home Gauntlet 2008'):

If somebody or some team wants to host it, we'll advertise it on the front page.

Yes, please! ;)
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Message 925515 - Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 7:37:38 UTC

The SETI@Netherlands donation challenge is now at $ 920 (€ 650)

Two weeks to get to $ 1,000 ;), this seems quite feasible :D

.. and when we make that, let's go for the € 1,000 :D

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Message 925861 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 19:12:53 UTC - in response to Message 925515.

And today we breached the $1000,-- barrier :-)

And we are extending the Gauntlet invitation to all teams that are interested to participate. No teams will be banned or refused.

So, click on the links provided by Eesger and sign up!
We hope to have the biggest Gauntlet yet :)


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Message 925893 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009, 22:40:53 UTC
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Indeed! And now let's see if we can make it a € 1,000,- for the donation challenge :D

As it stands now in the creation of the subteams 'our supercruncher' Aad will be "booted" to his own personal subteam and the S@NL subteam will have to be split up in at least two subteams... (otherwise there won't be much fun in holding this competition... when one already knows the outcome....)

But hey.. I am missing a subteam of SETI@USA.. there is some serious crunching power there!

SETI.Germany is now the second subteam in the amount of subteammembers.. but hey.. your team has much more crunch power than that!

And then I haven't even started about our team target L'Alliance Francophone! We're overheating our processors trying to get in third.. but you guys can at least try and beat us in the Gauntlet!

And, and........

(trying to motivate some teams here ;)

One of our teammembers had the great idea to show (and order) the subteam stats according to the amount of credits gained for the subteam.. that way there is the extra aspect for some friendly subteam competition as well!

FYI, the RAC's you see for the subteams is the sum of the RAC's of the subteam members (that way we can try and get as much teams as possible in the same kind of RAC.. making it a fun competition...).

All in all.. sign up with your subteam (click on the link next to your subteam)
Or ask for the creation of your subteam!

Let's make this the most fun Gauntlet ever!

PS: all amounts/scores etc you see in the stats now will off-course be reset when the Gauntlet starts..
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Message 926573 - Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 20:01:40 UTC
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I would be interested in participating in the "Gauntlet". Just two questions:

1. How do I apply and donate?

2. How to stop possible cheating? I was wondering how I would gain an unfair advantage and I considered "stacking up" dozens of almost-completed WUs (suspended at 99%) in the days leading up to the competition and releasing them when the Gauntlet begins.

I am sure there are others who have thought of different cheats, and I publish my thoughts in the hope that such cheats can be prevented to give everyone a level playing field.
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Message 926631 - Posted: 16 Aug 2009, 23:20:03 UTC - in response to Message 926573.
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Hi!

First of all, thanx for your interrest, second.. your questions:

1. How do I apply and donate?

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All in all.. sign up with your subteam (click on the link next to your subteam)
Or ask for the creation of your subteam! (guest posts are now allowed)
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2. How to stop possible cheating?
In a Gauntlet like this one.. cheating is possible.. you suggested one.. but one can probably think of several others.. I guess the idea of this Gauntlet is a friendly competition.. The main idea is that the "real" teams create subteams.. when a subteam becomes too strong, they split into two/more subteams (like S@NL has done already).. when one/several subteams have no chance in winning they may combine forces..
But all in all.. yea, cheating is possible.. but where's the glory in that? I am seriously hoping my stats-programming (and that of the Paddy-team) will result in a fun gauntlet with a healthy competition (resulting in extra crunching being done for SETI@HOME ;).. none of the above will be gained with cheating.. and

Everlasting glory to the (honest) winning (sub)team of the 10th Anniversary Gauntlet!
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Message 926727 - Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 8:02:53 UTC

Mike.. I've been thinking some more about your cheating point..

What you say can be seen in the stats, if someone does that the production will slow down before the Gauntlet starts, and will rise when the Gauntlet begins. Since Our stats system has been up and running in the current config since march this year there is enough history to see such behaviour.. And when the "Gauntlet community" sees a user cheating, well as far as I'm concerned that person will bee booted from the Gauntlet and all the credits earned for the subteam will be removed. (I'll add some extra logging to have this data at hand in case off..)

It is offcource most welcome for crunchers to speed op a notch (or two) when the Gauntlet starts ;)
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Message 926863 - Posted: 17 Aug 2009, 23:06:03 UTC
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Eesger,
I know that you have used this thread for 2 reasons;
1. To tell people about the gauntlet competition
2. Your S@NL Donation thing

In this thread, this does create some confusion. Some people might be under the impression that teams have to donate money to compete in the gauntlet competition. Reading back over this thread, thats what it sounds like.

Maybe you guys should clarify this! If i am correct, your donation thing you have running is something different, its just a S@NL thing. Either way, even if you clarify how it works in a message, this thread still reads like a donation is required to enter the gauntlet. To be honest, i would have kept the two items in seperate messages, but that's just me.

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Message 927208 - Posted: 19 Aug 2009, 18:50:17 UTC

Johnney, you are completely right.
The donation challenge is something internal of our team. We want to celebrate our anniversary by donating some money to the project we owe our existence to. This is NOT, I repeat, NOT linked to participating in the Gauntlet.

There is NO DONATION required to enter the Gauntlet!

And maybe it would have been better to have kept this in separate threads.
But hey, we didn't. Our bad. I guess we got a bit carried away :)

Sorry if this has created some confusion, guys!

This being said, you are all still very welcome to join us in our FREE anniversary Gauntlet!
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Message 928374 - Posted: 24 Aug 2009, 10:31:13 UTC
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The following teams are putting Gauntlet teams together right now:


  • TeAm AnandTech
  • SETI@Netherlands
  • Planet 3DNow!
  • Crunching Family
  • Overclockers
  • Dutch Power Cows
  • PADDY'S IN SPACE
  • SETI.Germany
  • BOINC@Poland
  • Erster Kontakt
  • seti@thueringen


But there is room for more :)
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Message 928976 - Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 7:26:44 UTC
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The Gauntlet now has 18 teams with a total of 129 crunchers, nice!

But I'm still missing SETI.USA, Francophone en KWSN subteams!? No interest there?

For a stats-test we are thinking of resetting the stats on August 31st, so that we (S@NL and PADDY's can do a final test on the stats code)

In other news ;)
The Dutch SETI community has built up a nice sum of money to donate to the SET@HOME project, we're at $ 1138 (€ 797,50)!
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Message 929714 - Posted: 30 Aug 2009, 15:24:47 UTC - in response to Message 928976.

We at Anandtech are very excited to participate. Last gauntlet was fun and this should be even better!
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Message 930388 - Posted: 2 Sep 2009, 16:00:07 UTC
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You & your team are offcource very welcome to the Gauntlet Bryan!

There are still about two weeks until the sign-up closes, so more teams are still very welcome!

PS: the S@NL donation challenge is now at $ 1,285 (€ 903,83, are we going to make it to the 'cool' € 1,000? ;)

PS2: I made a small mistake in the stats-reset, this should go right with the next update..
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Message 933142 - Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 21:44:30 UTC

25 teams are now set up in the Gauntlet and everything is going quite nicely.

For some final testing our Gauntlet stats will be reset with the next update (I hope the stats of Paddy's will follow, for a final check also..)

Also, our "Dutch fund raising campaign" is almost at € 1,000 => € 973,83 (~ $ 1,409) !!

The signup closes at September 18th, so there is still time!
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Message 934105 - Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 21:39:16 UTC

about 24 hours until the signup for the Gauntlet closes... so if you "want in", now is the time!


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Message 934133 - Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 23:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 934105.

about 24 hours until the signup for the Gauntlet closes... so if you "want in", now is the time!



I would like to add myself in, but I just can't figure out the board. I tried to register, but I think it said certain e-mail addresses were disallowed (mine is at Yahoo). I also could not figure out how to post as a guest...

-Dave
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