Olga (Apr 02 2009)

Message boards : Technical News : Olga (Apr 02 2009)

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Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1375 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 881812 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 22:44:31 UTC
	The science database issues slowly get better. The root drives are now all sync'ed up, but as I mentioned before this is only a temporary condition. This will fail again upon next bootup. That's fine because this forces the issue of reformatting the data RAIDs on the system which is something I've been wanting to do for a year now - might as well reformat the whole system, root, data, and all. The pulse table continues to get populated and assimilators remain off - at least for another day. We're about to run out of workunit disk storage (again) so expect another workunit shortage period in the very near future. My new rough estimate for the pulse load to finish is sometime tomorrow, and then we can turn the assimilators on, and we will be as back to normal (whatever that means). One of the download servers (bane) has been having mounting issues the past few days, hence the locking-up of the server status page. I just rebooted the thing. Let's see if that holds. Once again today was mostly a coding day. I've been annoyed by the radar blanking stuff, being as how the design has changed underneath me thus rendering a week (or two) of my effort moot. The old understanding was that we should only being seeing one type of radar at a time, but my output was showing this to be far from the case. Nevertheless once I got a quick handle on the fftw routines I made quick work of the correlation code and am already spotting radar quicker and more effectively. However a lot of graphing/threshold tweaking is in order before I can really start locking on and blanking. - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10331 Credit: 5,103,825 RAC: 6,332	Message 881817 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 23:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 881812.
	Thanks for the updates. It is always appreciated. ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,686,839 RAC: 963	Message 881818 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 23:20:38 UTC - in response to Message 881812. Last modified: 2 Apr 2009, 23:22:54 UTC
	... already spotting radar quicker and more effectively. ... What?! Your human eye+brain is faster that the Fast Fourier Transform?!! Hang in there! One pause for thought... Considering the mess that the radars are having on the s@h and Astropulse data... What of the other astronomical studies? Is the signal correlation between the channels good enough to do mere common mode rejection to eliminate the radar (and any other common mode signals)? Regards, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1375 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 881823 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 23:35:46 UTC - in response to Message 881818.
	... already spotting radar quicker and more effectively. ... What?! Your human eye+brain is faster that the Fast Fourier Transform?!! You know what I mean.. the new program is spotting radar quicker than the old one. Though still you can look at some of a graph of the data and see radar instantaneously. Considering the mess that the radars are having on the s@h and Astropulse data... What of the other astronomical studies? Because of the kind of data analysis other projects do, the radar is lost in the noise. It's a nightmare for us because it ends up looking like pulses. However, some projects are similarly affected and request that when they observe a high pass filter is turned on which completely obliterates the radar (which is actually broadcasting around 1300MHz, but is still loud enough to jam our receivers up at 1420MHz). Unfortunately this high pass filter is only on about 10% of the time, roughly - but when it is our data look super clean. Is the signal correlation between the channels good enough to do mere common mode rejection to eliminate the radar (and any other common mode signals)? It is when the radar is blasting us (every 12 seconds) but from what I understand the echoes are weak enough to look like noise (but still show up as pulses). I may be wrong. Ask Eric or Dan. - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
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Robi Send message Joined: 24 Oct 00 Posts: 31 Credit: 196,878 RAC: 0	Message 881844 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 0:36:59 UTC - in response to Message 881812.
	Thanks for the update, have set up my cache accordingly :) a few extra days more ;) let's see if the next three threads will be named: Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia :) so thus far the monthly thread naming theme is either "The Romanovs" or "Russian Grand Dukes and Duchesses" ____________ Robi
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MonorailPilot Send message Joined: 12 May 99 Posts: 8 Credit: 4,422,543 RAC: 0	Message 881857 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 2:03:58 UTC
	So, russian royalty this month?
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Neil Blaikie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 142 Credit: 5,566,899 RAC: 1	Message 881893 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 4:59:28 UTC - in response to Message 881857.
	Ah the power of Google, only another 27 days to go until Matt reveals the thread titles for this month :-) Good job to all of you at Berkeley for working through your ongoing hardships, you guys really should be given some sort of award for keeping this project running with limited resources. ____________
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MarkJ Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 08 Posts: 912 Credit: 14,608,425 RAC: 11,369	Message 881938 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 11:08:39 UTC
	I presume the "southern seti" doesn't suffer from these radar issues. Wouldn't the data from there be cleaner, not to mention other parts of the sky not being observed from Areciebo? Thanks for the updates and keeping the project up under such trying conditions. Cheers, MarkJ
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Mike O Send message Joined: 1 Sep 07 Posts: 428 Credit: 6,670,998 RAC: 0	Message 881949 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 12:25:55 UTC Last modified: 3 Apr 2009, 12:27:18 UTC
	Some times I feel for you Matt. All the things you have to deal with makes my computer problems seem very trivial. Not knowing exactly where a problem is, has to be the most agravating thing in the world! I think your doing a great Job and have never seen any loss of control on your part :) If the WUs go away.. so beit. I will survive and so will everyone else. A full format sounds like an excellent idea. A surface scan is not a bad idea either but would take.. WOW.. who knows!!?? Its ok.. I'll wait :) Get on keeping on! -- Mike ____________ Not Ready Reading BRAIN. Abort/Retry/Fail?
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Ananas Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Dec 01 Posts: 192 Credit: 2,319,430 RAC: 0	Message 882001 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 15:46:33 UTC - in response to Message 881818.
	... already spotting radar quicker and more effectively. ... What?! Your human eye+brain is faster that the Fast Fourier Transform?!! ... Wouldn't surprise me. The brain seems to be quite optimized for that pattern recognition stuff - optical and acoustical.
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HAL Send message Joined: 28 Mar 03 Posts: 704 Credit: 870,617 RAC: 0	Message 882004 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 16:08:41 UTC - in response to Message 881893.
	Ah the power of Google, only another 27 days to go until Matt reveals the thread titles for this month :-) Good job to all of you at Berkeley for working through your ongoing hardships, you guys really should be given some sort of award for keeping this project running with limited resources. AMEN to that! Perhaps we should paraphrase Winston Churchill's comments about the Battle of Britain - never before have so many owed so much to so few. And I might add - with so few resources. ____________ Classic WU= 7,237 Classic Hours= 42,079
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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1596 Credit: 4,434,911 RAC: 4,178	Message 882011 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 17:09:13 UTC - in response to Message 881844. Last modified: 3 Apr 2009, 17:10:12 UTC
	Thanks for the update, have set up my cache accordingly :) a few extra days more ;) let's see if the next three threads will be named: Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia :) so thus far the monthly thread naming theme is either "The Romanovs" or "Russian Grand Dukes and Duchesses" my guess, from the limited data so far: the cast of War & Peace ____________ .
	ID: 882011 ·

MonorailPilot Send message Joined: 12 May 99 Posts: 8 Credit: 4,422,543 RAC: 0	Message 882093 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 21:52:01 UTC - in response to Message 882079.
	So, russian royalty this month? Olga......? Maybe it's past girlfriends........LOL...even a geeky has a gf or two....... Any twins? Then again, he's thrown us off the scent early before :)
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RottenMutt Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 929 Credit: 182,875,908 RAC: 202,115	Message 882175 - Posted: 4 Apr 2009, 4:27:10 UTC
	the sah_assimilators are running, Workunits waiting for assimilation 2,331,964 at time of post... see it the queue decreases... ____________
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DPRGI - Luivul Send message Joined: 24 Jan 03 Posts: 17 Credit: 20,607,955 RAC: 1,630	Message 882204 - Posted: 4 Apr 2009, 8:23:05 UTC - in response to Message 882175.
	the sah_assimilators are running, Workunits waiting for assimilation 2,331,964 at time of post... see it the queue decreases... Slowly but decreases :) ____________
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Borgholio Send message Joined: 2 Aug 99 Posts: 625 Credit: 10,831,055 RAC: 4,216	Message 882205 - Posted: 4 Apr 2009, 8:25:00 UTC - in response to Message 882204.
	Assimilator queue seems to be dropping by about 20k workunits per hour. ____________ You will be assimilated...bunghole!
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Neil Blaikie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 142 Credit: 5,566,899 RAC: 1	Message 882237 - Posted: 4 Apr 2009, 12:42:54 UTC
	4/4/2009 8:22:44 AM\|SETI@home\|Computation for task 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1 finished 4/4/2009 8:22:44 AM\|SETI@home\|Output file 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1_0 for task 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1 absent I have been getting this for nearly a day now and even though there is work available, none is getting through. Any suggestions as to why this message is coming up? ____________
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7462 Credit: 39,754,759 RAC: 34,019	Message 882241 - Posted: 4 Apr 2009, 13:13:14 UTC - in response to Message 882237.
	4/4/2009 8:22:44 AM\|SETI@home\|Computation for task 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1 finished 4/4/2009 8:22:44 AM\|SETI@home\|Output file 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1_0 for task 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1 absent I have been getting this for nearly a day now and even though there is work available, none is getting through. Any suggestions as to why this message is coming up? Because your task ended with an error. If there's an error, then no scientific work is completed, and there's no output file to upload. Have a look at the task details for 09fe09aa.16820.11115.6.8.63_1. The error message is "No main program specified". Post that in Q & A or Number Crunching, and we can help you there. (My guess is that Claggy's Space has crept into your app_info.xml file).
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Jack Zhang Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Jul 06 Posts: 206 Credit: 5,595,829 RAC: 1,029	Message 882340 - Posted: 4 Apr 2009, 19:36:59 UTC
	The graph froze at 1600 UTC. Another process damming up the processes? Server Status page processes? Science Status page processes? ____________ What if Fiction was Fact and Fact was Fiction and vice versa?
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Message boards : Technical News : Olga (Apr 02 2009)