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Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Actually, Their not so much being canceled as refunded, For typical Congressional study and such. MSNBC wrote:
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John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Bush tended to give the oil companies whatever they asked for. After all, the oil industry wrote all the rules that Bush promulgated on energy... BOINC WIKI |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Bush tended to give the oil companies whatever they asked for. After all, the oil industry wrote all the rules that Bush promulgated on energy... Plus Nimbys don't want drilling anywhere, I can see being too near a NP as they could be farther away out of sight and slant drill instead. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Bush-era energy drilling leases in Utah canceled Yes, Why? As It never stays at or even near $40 a barrel for long, Or did You just come out of a cave where Dinos still exist? The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
StormKing Send message Joined: 6 Nov 00 Posts: 456 Credit: 2,887,579 RAC: 0 |
Bush-era energy drilling leases in Utah canceled One, I doubt there is enough oil in this small parcel of land to influence the world oil price. Two, wouldn't it make more sense to drill the oil when it is more economical to do so? Like when oil prices are back above $100 a barrel? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Bush-era energy drilling leases in Utah canceled 1. Like why would Oil from the USA even be concerned with the world market price? They can get their own oil. 1a. When It comes to Oil Shale We have more than Saudi Arabia does, All It needs to flow is elevate the oils temperature to 650F and the oil flows. 2. Drill now or It will not help when oil is at $100.00 a barrel as oil in the ground doesn't do most people any good at all while It's just laying there, Only when It's being refined and bought as gasoline, diesel, kerosene(Jet fuel), oil(various), etc. is oil of any use at all. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Instead of investing in more drilling while the prices are good, why not invest into alternative renewable resources before it gets bad again? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Instead of investing in more drilling while the prices are good, why not invest into alternative renewable resources before it gets bad again? Alternatives are good, But It won't fit inside the tank of Your car Ozz and not everybody is rich. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Instead of investing in more drilling while the prices are good, why not invest into alternative renewable resources before it gets bad again? Which is why we need to begin R&D now. Not everything stays expensive Joker. Remember that computers used to cost $10,000 or more? Now you can get one for $400 at some local discount retailer (granted, its junk, but you can still get one for your basic needs). Obviously as demand goes up, supply will to, and prices usually come tumbling down. ...and obviously it won't work with my car, but I'm thinking long term investments here. Start now so that it won't be expensive the next time we have [insert whatever you want to blame high gas prices on here]. |
Labbie Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 4083 Credit: 5,930,102 RAC: 0 |
Instead of investing in more drilling while the prices are good, why not invest into alternative renewable resources before it gets bad again? We need tp do both. Calm Chaos Forum...Join Calm Chaos Now |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Instead of investing in more drilling while the prices are good, why not invest into alternative renewable resources before it gets bad again? R&D is a good idea and should be done and not everything stays expensive, For Me almost any car can be expensive and usually cash only or with a loan from a relative, As I get too little for a regular car loan. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
More oil was wasted in the rollback of CAFE that occurred about a decade ago than exists in ANWR. We are currently funding both sides of the fight against terrorism. There are some sites that we should never drill in. (right next to a national park comes to mind as one of them). However, we do need to stop importing oil from the mid east. We need to be doing "all of the above" for any energy technology that holds real promise, including (but not limited to): Hybrid gas/electric cars, Plug in hybrid gas/electric cars, pure electric cars, wind energy, solar energy, geo thermal, nuclear. We do, however, need to stop burning carbon (coal and oil) to get energy to avoid making the climate so bad that it is not survivable. BOINC WIKI |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
More oil was wasted in the rollback of CAFE that occurred about a decade ago than exists in ANWR. In any case stopping the Burning of Oil, Coal and Natural Gas(all produce CO2 as a by product) isn't something that can be simply done overnight, This will take a long time. Hydrogen fuel cells ready for Mass production are at least 20 years off as It's a matter of finding materials that will do the job and can be massed produced, Currently Hydrogen comes from (what else) Natural Gas as It's easier to crack than water and Hydrogen powered cars are not very fuel efficient right now and being Hydrogen is smaller than the smallest molecule(Helium), It tends to be able to be able to escape as It were as It's really, unbelievably small stuff, What one thinks is solid, Is actually pretty full of holes or hollow spaces from what I've read and looks more like a net or even a lattice structure. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Bobby Culpepper Send message Joined: 5 Apr 08 Posts: 29 Credit: 43,368 RAC: 0 |
We need to drill because oil will go back up as soon as more Americans get back to work and can afford to buy gas. I would rather have an electric car or even an electric golf cart. I live close enough to work either would work for me. If I was in better health a bike would work. North Carolina could legalize electric golf carts. If car prices and technology had improved as much as computers have well.. We all know about frogs and wings. Think how much money could be diverted to R&D is all CEO's and executives were limited to $500,000 a year. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
We need to drill because oil will go back up as soon as more Americans get back to work and can afford to buy gas. Electric cars do exist right now, But the catch is their not mass produced and so their expensive and their range is still varies, Some have a range of 50 miles others may or may not do more. :D The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
We need to drill because oil will go back up as soon as more Americans get back to work and can afford to buy gas. ...but if we keep putting off the R&D because it isn't good enough for us right now, then we'll never get to the point where we'll be able to ween ourselves off oil. I would rather pay more for gas right now if it were to mean that sometime in the future, even if its my kid's future, that we could be running a much cleaner fuel source than we are now. That might just be me. I think too many people only worry about the here and now (which is important) but forget to plan ahead. |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Sometimes it's really hard not to just laugh like hell at the stuff posted here. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
We need to drill because oil will go back up as soon as more Americans get back to work and can afford to buy gas. People respond to prices. If we want to start weaning ourselves from foriegn oil as we are funding both sides of the war on terror, we probably need to artificially inflate the price of gasoline - set a floor price of $4.00 / gallon at the pump, and you would see people buying smaller cars, hybrids, and electric cars as well as seeing much more money spent on research on how to build more efficient cars. The idea is that we need to incorporate the true cost of oil into the price at the pump. This includes fighting to keep the oil supply going as well as the environmental damage done by burning the stuff. BOINC WIKI |
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