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Papa Zito Send message Joined: 7 Feb 03 Posts: 257 Credit: 624,881 RAC: 0 |
> > > And, cripes, Lucy Liu could help ANYONE. Even azwoody. I mean, she's > Lucy > > You found me out - I really am Lucy Liu. azwoody is only my pen name! :) > Hey, I'm having this slumber party at my house, and um... ------------------------------------ The game High/Low is played by tossing two nuclear warheads into the air. The one whose bomb explodes higher wins. This game is usually played by people of low intelligence, hence the name High/Low. |
taltamir Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 96 Credit: 51,791 RAC: 0 |
Siren, rearead my post and figure out why you are wrong. Hint "From a single machine" - said by me. So, if he runs a bazzilion machines, he would obviously get his 24 hours in, you running your single machine will get your 24 hours in, and you will have an equal chance. |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
> I rest my case see the new UOTD. hmmmupf > > http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=71501 UPDATE 10/5/2004 New UOTD Let’s see only new users of SETI/BONIC are picked. Which means it's not random or at least that’s what it looks like to me . 10/5/2004 New UOTD http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=197756 </img> |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> Siren, rearead my post and figure out why you are wrong. Hint "From a single > machine" - said by me. > > So, if he runs a bazzilion machines, he would obviously get his 24 hours in, > you running your single machine will get your 24 hours in, and you will have > an equal chance. > > Ok, I see the error of my way. I worked late yesterday and didn't have my full 2-3 hours to devote to reading the posts. I must have just skimmed. Sorry.... But, I run 3 projects and LHC is way out doing SETI by about 4 to 1. I cannot spend 24 hours on SETI without getting rid of my other projects. So, I still will miss out on becoming UOTD, not that I am trying to be one. That's why I say it should just be random, maybe with the stipulation that one has to actually have contributed to the project by crunching WUs. And, not by the number of WUs or credits. And, I agree with you in that anyone selected can only be UOTD once until everyone else has been selected. Maybe the dev team can add that little tidbit of data to the account of each user so they will know that they have been one whether they saw their name on the front page or not. I appologize for misunderstanding of your post.... L8R.... --- Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better! "There is no fate except that which we create for ourselves." Live Long and Prosper.... |
Neee-wom Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 23 Credit: 5,842 RAC: 0 |
Not that *t makes a great deal of difference, but the random user thing is a good idea, but those that do not have a client registered or do not have any credit on the SETI@Home on BOINC project should be excluded... who cares about credit? the results are what counts! Ni! |
Pascal, K G Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2343 Credit: 150,491 RAC: 0 |
> > Siren, rearead my post and figure out why you are wrong. Hint "From a > single > > machine" - said by me. > > > > So, if he runs a bazzilion machines, he would obviously get his 24 hours > in, > > you running your single machine will get your 24 hours in, and you will > have > > an equal chance. > > > > > > Ok, I see the error of my way. I worked late yesterday and didn't have my > full 2-3 hours to devote to reading the posts. I must have just skimmed. > Sorry.... But, I run 3 projects and LHC is way out doing SETI by about > 4 to 1. I cannot spend 24 hours on SETI without getting rid of my other > projects. So, I still will miss out on becoming UOTD, not that I am trying to > be one. > > That's why I say it should just be random, maybe with the stipulation that one > has to actually have contributed to the project by crunching WUs. And, not by > the number of WUs or credits. > > And, I agree with you in that anyone selected can only be UOTD once until > everyone else has been selected. Maybe the dev team can add that little > tidbit of data to the account of each user so they will know that they have > been one whether they saw their name on the front page or not. > > I appologize for misunderstanding of your post.... > > L8R.... > > --- > > Rick A. [/b] - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better! > > > "There is no fate except that which we create for ourselves." > > Live Long and Prosper.... > > Siran, why do you have a picture of Spock if you are Siran of Vulcan. Semper Eadem So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride. Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No. |
taltamir Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 96 Credit: 51,791 RAC: 0 |
Vulcan, elves, whatchamacalls them.. its all the same. People with pointy ears who are "better" then humans... MMMMmmmm, playelf, now thats a magazine! I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman! |
FrankH Send message Joined: 25 Feb 04 Posts: 25 Credit: 18,183 RAC: 0 |
> And, I agree with you in that anyone selected can only be UOTD once until > everyone else has been selected. Maybe the dev team can add that little > tidbit of data to the account of each user so they will know that they have > been one whether they saw their name on the front page or not. Just some quick calculations ... 50,041 registered users (according to one of the statistic sites), ~365 days/year => UOTD once every 137 years ... and there's a constant stream of new ones... So in reality, you're lucky if you become UOTD... of course not everyone have a profile, but it's still a huge amount of users registered... IMHO a pure random thing is fine, I don't see a use in making it more complex, unless someone want the UOTD as a status symbol (and think they have a bigger possibility to get it with another 'randomizer') "hey I've been UOTD on SETI and you havent..." kind of thing. It's just something to show different people that have been involved in SETI in one way or another oh, and the validators aren't running either, so some of the 0 people could actually have WU's (I guess if they also have no computers, they perhaps haven't run any boinc yet ... ) ;) oh, and the front page don't say SETI@Boinc either, but SETI@Home. (Only "Powered by Boinc", and some boinc in the news list text) /Frank H --- We're not living in a black and white world |
taltamir Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 96 Credit: 51,791 RAC: 0 |
Another point of not making it any more comlpicated, why waste the time and effort when there is so much to do on the science side of the project. I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman! |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> Not that *t makes a great deal of difference, but the random user thing is a > good idea, but those that do not have a client registered or do not have any > credit on the SETI@Home on BOINC project should be excluded... who cares about > credit? the results are what counts! > > Ni! > The ultimate result may not come until the year 2157, by which time we will be running BOINC v5112.09. ;-) So, until then, the credits are all we have. I like credits, they show that my PC is progressively working. When I don't get any credits, how do I know my PC is doing anything? The little red and green lights on the front? L8R.... --- CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> > > ........ > > > > > > Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get > better! > > > > > > "There is no fate except that which we create for ourselves." > > > > Live Long and Prosper.... > > > > > > Siran, why do you have a picture of Spock if you are Siran of Vulcan. > Spock is my mentor. Besides, I don't have one of myself on my PC. L8R.... --- CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> > And, I agree with you in that anyone selected can only be UOTD once > until > > everyone else has been selected. Maybe the dev team can add that little > > tidbit of data to the account of each user so they will know that they > have > > been one whether they saw their name on the front page or not. > > Just some quick calculations ... 50,041 registered users (according to one of > the statistic sites), ~365 days/year => UOTD once every 137 years ... and > there's a constant stream of new ones... So in reality, you're lucky if you > become UOTD... of course not everyone have a profile, but it's still a huge > amount of users registered... > There's a difference between Registered user and active user. Of those 50,041 how many are actually active users, actually crunching WUs for SETI? I would bet there's not as many as you may think. I highly doubt that all 50K users are active. And, in reality, I will become UOTD some day as long as the same UOTDs are not selected multiple times. I just may not be around to see it, not that I actually care to be UOTD. > IMHO a pure random thing is fine, I don't see a use in making it more complex, > unless someone want the UOTD as a status symbol (and think they have a bigger > possibility to get it with another 'randomizer') "hey I've been UOTD on SETI > and you havent..." kind of thing. > It's just something to show different people that have been involved in SETI > in one way or another > > oh, and the validators aren't running either, so some of the 0 people could > actually have WU's (I guess if they also have no computers, they perhaps > haven't run any boinc yet ... ) ;) > oh, and the front page don't say SETI@Boinc either, but SETI@Home. > (Only "Powered by Boinc", and some boinc in the news list text) > > /Frank H > --- > We're not living in a black and white world > Where did you find that I ever said "SETI@Boinc"? I, sir, am not a dolt. That would almost fall under the heading of Oxymoron. SETI is an acronym of one thing while BOINC is an acronym of another. Two totally different things. I am not looking to be UOTD. I don't care one way or another. I just want to crunch WUs and be the first to find E.T. I've been crunching for SETI for over 5 years and as far as I know, have never been UOTD. L8R.... --- CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
taltamir Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 96 Credit: 51,791 RAC: 0 |
here is a question... is it any good? Should it just be scraped since its really really pointless and noone cares? I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman! |
FrankH Send message Joined: 25 Feb 04 Posts: 25 Credit: 18,183 RAC: 0 |
> Where did you find that I ever said "SETI@Boinc"? I, sir, am not a > dolt. That would almost fall under the heading of Oxymoron. SETI is > an acronym of one thing while BOINC is an acronym of another. Two totally > different things. Where did you find that I ever said that you said "SETI@Boinc" I, sir, am not a dunce. ;) (that comment was for some other stuff said in this thread (woody something IIRC) ... don't search for things to get irritated by and life will be alot easier to live...) > I am not looking to be UOTD. I don't care one way or another. Good for you ________<br>We\'re not living in a black and white world |
slavko.sk Send message Joined: 27 Jun 00 Posts: 346 Credit: 417,028 RAC: 0 |
I think, those 50k users have some credit under BOINC. Milions were transfered from S@H1 on 15th May(?) and from those UOTD is taken, 0 credit. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD! Potrebujete pomoc? My Stats |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> > Where did you find that I ever said "SETI@Boinc"? I, sir, am not > a > > dolt. That would almost fall under the heading of Oxymoron. SETI > is > > an acronym of one thing while BOINC is an acronym of another. Two > totally > > different things. > > Where did you find that I ever said that you said "SETI@Boinc" I, sir, > am not a dunce. ;) The following, which was your post to me: > oh, and the validators aren't running either, so some of the 0 people could > actually have WU's (I guess if they also have no computers, they perhaps > haven't run any boinc yet ... ) ;) > oh, and the front page don't say SETI@Boinc either, but SETI@Home. > (Only "Powered by Boinc", and some boinc in the news list text) > > /Frank H > --- > We're not living in a black and white world > > (that comment was for some other stuff said in this thread (woody something > IIRC) ... don't search for things to get irritated by and life will be alot > easier to live...) If you are going to use a post to one person to also send a message to someone else, do it this way so as not to confuse the person you are sending the post to: @ Whomever, this message is for you. If you re-read your post to me you should see how I was able to figure the statement was addressed to me. > > > > I am not looking to be UOTD. I don't care one way or another. > > Good for you > I hope I'm not reading any sarcasm in the above. L8R.... --- CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
> I think, those 50k users have some credit under BOINC. Milions were transfered > from S@H1 on 15th May(?) and from those UOTD is taken, 0 credit. > Of those millions transfered, there are only 50+K who have "converted" to BOINC. So, why should the other millions minus 50+K be considered UOTD on the BOINC side? Why should, for that matter, a user with 0 credit be considered as UOTD if they haven't participated in the science? There is no logical reason for either of the above accept that it's easier for the selection software or whatever is used for the selection of UOTD. L8R.... --- CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
taltamir Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 96 Credit: 51,791 RAC: 0 |
Semantics, as usual. Really who cares if someone said seti@boinc. It is OBVIOUS that this is refering to the seti at home project bein ran on the boinc platform. Remember kids, dont stoop to arguing semantics! I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman! |
FrankH Send message Joined: 25 Feb 04 Posts: 25 Credit: 18,183 RAC: 0 |
@SOV: lol, you're funny, as I said, don't look for stuff to get annoyed on and life will get alot easier... I write on a forum, I'm not sending you an email or something, my messages is for everyone to read... and all I did was use a part of your post (i.e. the reason for my quote), and put up some calculations... I never ever directed that post to you alone, I aimed to post to everyone that would read the thread. This message OTOH is only aimed to you ... note the @ sign... and once again... don't look for stuff to get annoyed on and life will get alot easier... Edit: (if you must continue this discussion with me alone, mail is a much better way for 2 people discussing things, will spare alot of forum users to read things that doesn't affect them ... frank_n05pam@hotmale.com ... and replace that hotmale with msn's mail service ;)) @everyone else: Sorry for this post that was only aimed at SoV ... but I just obv had so say this ... ________<br>We\'re not living in a black and white world |
taltamir Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 96 Credit: 51,791 RAC: 0 |
frank has a point. I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman! |
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