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Message 821561 - Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 16:26:20 UTC

According to BOINCstats, there are 4 of those currently out there and they rank #2 in Host CPU breakdown if sorted by average credit per CPU.
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Message 823058 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 7:02:24 UTC

well, if you want a new computer, pay attention in the next few days.

Price/performance, the Core i7 will be unbeatable.

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Message 823059 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 7:14:16 UTC - in response to Message 823058.  

well, if you want a new computer, pay attention in the next few days.

Price/performance, the Core i7 will be unbeatable.



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Message 823443 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 8:33:40 UTC

Too bad those Intel SSDs are too expensive at the moment. I'll wait 'em.

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Message 825301 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 16:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 825294.  
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Hi all , back to the i7(Nahalem;8-core), find the RAC a bit low, when I compaire this to my QX9650@3.4GHz, wich crunches MB on 3 cores, with a RAC off 5000, 1 core for E@H 800-1000RAC. (WIN XP64; BOINC x64; MB optimized 64BIT SSSE3x); only EINSTEIN runs a 32BIT application, not an ideal situation . . .
I'd expected something like 10K (RAC), as the amount off FLOPS /core, are almost the same, but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has much impact on SETI MB crunching. Compairing those 2, by Floating Point, isn't (maybe) NOT ideal, but does say something about the performance.
And if they still gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the On_Chip Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.
But also can't wait, cause I'de like to build a new rig, a fast one, with as many cores as possible for my purse, anyway ;^).
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Message 825309 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 16:43:45 UTC - in response to Message 825301.  

but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has has much impact on SETI MB crunching.


The L2 cache on the Core i7 is 512KB, and the L2 cache is going to be 'per core'. There will be a shared L3 cache which will be much larger.

And if they stil gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.


It has already been stated that Intel will be using their new Quick Path Interconnect, which is not the same as AMD's HyperTransport. Quick Path Interconnect (QPI) was developed by Intel and has nothing to do with AMD's HyperTransport technology. The old FSB will be a thing of the past.
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Message 825310 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 16:46:05 UTC - in response to Message 825309.  

but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has has much impact on SETI MB crunching.


The L2 cache on the Core i7 is 512KB, and the L2 cache is going to be 'per core'. There will be a shared L3 cache which will be much larger.

And if they stil gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.


It has already been stated that Intel will be using their new Quick Path Interconnect, which is not the same as AMD's HyperTransport. Quick Path Interconnect (QPI) was developed by Intel and has nothing to do with AMD's HyperTransport technology. The old FSB will be a thing of the past.


I do hope my kitty drool does not get the best of me...........
A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.

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Message 825314 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 16:51:57 UTC - in response to Message 825310.  
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but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has has much impact on SETI MB crunching.


The L2 cache on the Core i7 is 512KB, and the L2 cache is going to be 'per core'. There will be a shared L3 cache which will be much larger.

And if they stil gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.


It has already been stated that Intel will be using their new Quick Path Interconnect, which is not the same as AMD's HyperTransport. Quick Path Interconnect (QPI) was developed by Intel and has nothing to do with AMD's HyperTransport technology. The old FSB will be a thing of the past.


I do hope my kitty drool does not get the best of me...........
A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.


LOL. Just imagine 4 cores with 2 threads then... Dual Monitors... 6GB RAM... all mine! All to be build with only $3000NZ?! You will not believe how little that seems to buy for a top spec computer...
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Message 825316 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 16:54:04 UTC - in response to Message 825314.  

but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has has much impact on SETI MB crunching.


The L2 cache on the Core i7 is 512KB, and the L2 cache is going to be 'per core'. There will be a shared L3 cache which will be much larger.

And if they stil gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.


It has already been stated that Intel will be using their new Quick Path Interconnect, which is not the same as AMD's HyperTransport. Quick Path Interconnect (QPI) was developed by Intel and has nothing to do with AMD's HyperTransport technology. The old FSB will be a thing of the past.


I do hope my kitty drool does not get the best of me...........
A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.


LOL. Just imagine 4 cores with 2 threads then... Dual Monitors... 6GB RAM... all mine! All to be build with only $3000NZ?! You will not believe how little that seems to buy for a top spec computer...

Quit teasing the kitties......LOL.
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Message 825322 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 16:56:53 UTC - in response to Message 825310.  


A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.

That can't be comfortable.
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Message 825327 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 17:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 825322.  


A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.

That can't be comfortable.

It isn't....they itch a lot.
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Message 825328 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 17:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 825316.  

but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has has much impact on SETI MB crunching.


The L2 cache on the Core i7 is 512KB, and the L2 cache is going to be 'per core'. There will be a shared L3 cache which will be much larger.

And if they stil gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.


It has already been stated that Intel will be using their new Quick Path Interconnect, which is not the same as AMD's HyperTransport. Quick Path Interconnect (QPI) was developed by Intel and has nothing to do with AMD's HyperTransport technology. The old FSB will be a thing of the past.


I do hope my kitty drool does not get the best of me...........
A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.


LOL. Just imagine 4 cores with 2 threads then... Dual Monitors... 6GB RAM... all mine! All to be build with only $3000NZ?! You will not believe how little that seems to buy for a top spec computer...

Quit teasing the kitties......LOL.


LOL. Don't Worry, I drool at it too...
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Message 825338 - Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 17:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 825328.  

but don't know what this CPU uses for L2 cache, wich has has much impact on SETI MB crunching.


The L2 cache on the Core i7 is 512KB, and the L2 cache is going to be 'per core'. There will be a shared L3 cache which will be much larger.

And if they stil gonna use the 'old' F.S.B., or the Inter Connect, wich AMD uses for their latest CPU's.


It has already been stated that Intel will be using their new Quick Path Interconnect, which is not the same as AMD's HyperTransport. Quick Path Interconnect (QPI) was developed by Intel and has nothing to do with AMD's HyperTransport technology. The old FSB will be a thing of the past.


I do hope my kitty drool does not get the best of me...........
A frozen six core 3 channel DDR3 ram thingy just gets me undies in a bundle.......LOL.


LOL. Just imagine 4 cores with 2 threads then... Dual Monitors... 6GB RAM... all mine! All to be build with only $3000NZ?! You will not believe how little that seems to buy for a top spec computer...

Quit teasing the kitties......LOL.


LOL. Don't Worry, I drool at it too...

With the way Intel is advancing, there is a lotta kitty drool on the horizon......

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Message 825591 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 5:30:07 UTC - in response to Message 825488.  


You can get a 8600GT as your GFX card, but it has been said that it is not really up to GPU crunching. There has been a thread to do with this before, with a link to a list of compatible GFX cards, but I couldn't tell you where to find it now.


Here's a list posted on GPUGrid.

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Message 825742 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 17:57:30 UTC

Not sure if it's worth posting this info again, but here goes.

Who? does seem to have the inside knowledge on the new releases of the Nehalem CPU's, but I guess he is not allowed to release any definite information yet.

For Henri, I would think that the Nehalem would be the way to go, I haven't heard much from AMD lately, so unless they have magically re-designed their CPU line to bash Intel the way they did with the Athlons, they will not produce as much work as the Intels at the moment.

I'm sure that the motherboards to support the new CPU's are on the design board at the moment, but again, you won't hear much until Intel is ready to release the new Nehalems.

You can get a 8600GT as your GFX card, but it has been said that it is not really up to GPU crunching. There has been a thread to do with this before, with a link to a list of compatible GFX cards, but I couldn't tell you where to find it now. I'm sure someone can remember. I have a 9800GTX+, which was approx £115 which will do what you want, but remember that if you seriously want to crunch, a GTX260 or 280 may be in order. Also I think that it uses one CPU core to look after the GPU crunching. I'm sure that someone can advise further on that too.

Don't know much about SSD Flash drives, but their speed will not help with seti. A normal disk would suffice. Any definite reason for wanting one? All I know is that they are very expensive at the moment.

Any 80% efficient PSU would be capable of what you want. I have a Corsair, but Antec, Enermax, PC Power & Cooling, OCZ are all well respected brands.

As for when, keep your eyes and ears open! When the review sites start getting CPU's and motherboards to review, then that will be the time to start looking seriously.

And price? Who knows? (no pun intended). Everybody will start releasing their prices when the review kit becomes available and they start the push to get us to part with our hard earned cash again.

Hope this helps, although not much in definite answers,

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Message 826120 - Posted: 2 Nov 2008, 16:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 825742.  

Don't know much about SSD Flash drives, but their speed will not help with seti. A normal disk would suffice. Any definite reason for wanting one? All I know is that they are very expensive at the moment.


I want a silent and fast PC. Intel's SSD should shave some seconds off of the Windows booting time. Disk defragmenting and file copying should also be fast as a thought. Just think about the ~200 MB/s read/write speeds and under 0.1 millisecond latencies! :)

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Message 826129 - Posted: 2 Nov 2008, 16:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 825742.  

Hi, gizbar.

Hope this helps, although not much in definite answers,


Thanks, it did.

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Message 826164 - Posted: 2 Nov 2008, 17:43:25 UTC

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The SSD I want costs over 800€! :D

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Message 826169 - Posted: 2 Nov 2008, 17:54:13 UTC - in response to Message 826164.  

http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/187273

The SSD I want costs over 800€! :D

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Other than the big hoot when windows boots, it won't speed up your Seti crunching much..........save the bucks and get a Nehalem.....
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Message 826486 - Posted: 3 Nov 2008, 9:44:39 UTC - in response to Message 826169.  

Other than the big hoot when windows boots, it won't speed up your Seti crunching much..........save the bucks and get a Nehalem.....


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