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Message 805276 - Posted: 5 Sep 2008, 15:28:50 UTC




Some thing different to discuss here in SETI@home number crunching :)

LHC - will it revolutionize the internet ? ?

We already know that the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be the biggest, most expensive physics experiment ever carried out by mankind. Colliding relativistic particles at energies previously unimaginable (up to the 14 TeV mark by the end of the decade) will generate millions of particles (known and as yet to be discovered), that need to be tracked and characterized by huge particle detectors. This historic experiment will require a massive data collection and storage effort, re-writing the rules of data handling. Every five seconds, LHC collisions will generate the equivalent of a DVD-worth of data, that's a data production rate of one gigabyte per second. To put this into perspective, an average household computer with a very good connection may be able to download data at a rate of one or two megabytes per second (if you are very lucky! I get 500 kilobytes/second). So, LHC engineers have designed a new kind of data handling method that can store and distribute petabytes (million-gigabytes) of data to LHC collaborators worldwide (without getting old and grey whilst waiting for a download).

read more at the following link:

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/04/the-lhc-will-revolutionize-physics-can-it-revolutionize-the-internet-too/


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Some thing different to discuss here in SETI@home number crunching :)

LHC - will it revolutionize the internet ? ?

We already know that the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be the biggest, most expensive physics experiment ever carried out by mankind. Colliding relativistic particles at energies previously unimaginable (up to the 14 TeV mark by the end of the decade) will generate millions of particles (known and as yet to be discovered), that need to be tracked and characterized by huge particle detectors. This historic experiment will require a massive data collection and storage effort, re-writing the rules of data handling. Every five seconds, LHC collisions will generate the equivalent of a DVD-worth of data, that's a data production rate of one gigabyte per second. To put this into perspective, an average household computer with a very good connection may be able to download data at a rate of one or two megabytes per second (if you are very lucky! I get 500 kilobytes/second). So, LHC engineers have designed a new kind of data handling method that can store and distribute petabytes (million-gigabytes) of data to LHC collaborators worldwide (without getting old and grey whilst waiting for a download).

read more at the following link:

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/04/the-lhc-will-revolutionize-physics-can-it-revolutionize-the-internet-too/


The devs at LHC@home have promised they will send us more data to crunch once LHC starts. Neither this article nor one on the September 4 issue of Nature magazine mention LHC@home or other BOINC projects. On September 10,11,12 there will be a BOINC workshop in Grenoble, France, where David Anderson of Berkeley and Bruce Allen of Einstein@home and others will speak about the future of BOINC. I wish I could take part in that meeting in the French Alps region.
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Message 806638 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 7:44:06 UTC
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LHC@home has been mostly about simulating the creation of the LHC.

The project staff over there have announced that there will be plenty of WU's over the next few weeks, however the actual data that The Grid will be processing will not be going to BOINC clients for the moment because the WU's for that data would be about 1 GB in size, which is not feasible to be worked on by BOINC.

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Message 806697 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 14:42:21 UTC
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Today LHC starts up.
LHC First Beam
Have a look at it and read the news.
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Message 806699 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 15:01:45 UTC - in response to Message 806697.  

Today LHC starts up.
LHC First Beam
Have a look at it and read the news.
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By the time you reported the second, opposite direction, beam had been started.
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Message 806799 - Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 22:55:09 UTC

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Message 806849 - Posted: 11 Sep 2008, 1:14:59 UTC

Here's something on the LHC that Naysayers here in the US didn't want cause of irrational fears:

What the Collider Might Discover
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Message 807248 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 4:43:46 UTC
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As predicted by Neasan, http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/server_status.php now has WU's to crunch.

LHC@home WU's have in the past mostly been 1 of 3 run times, depending on the number of turns of the LHC that they simulate.

LHC@home have: minimum quorum 3, initial replication 5 on their WU's. They have recently updated BOINC server code to a version which supports cancellation of redundant results.

Happy LHC crunching, Keith
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Message 807498 - Posted: 12 Sep 2008, 18:09:49 UTC

Here is a web cam that lets you look in on the LHC.
LHC WEBCAM



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Message 807656 - Posted: 13 Sep 2008, 3:07:48 UTC - in response to Message 807498.  

Here is a web cam that lets you look in on the LHC.
LHC WEBCAM



Oh No! LoL.
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Message 807688 - Posted: 13 Sep 2008, 5:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 807656.  

Here is a web cam that lets you look in on the LHC.
LHC WEBCAM



Oh No! LoL.

Sounds like Tunnel Vision, At least It's not in 3D. ;)
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Message 808589 - Posted: 15 Sep 2008, 18:41:44 UTC
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Some days after the first experiments you can see pictures from the results with comments on the Alice-website

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