running out and mine was set to 6 days. don't blame people for leaving the project.
after i take the number one spot in my team, my goal. i too will more then likely leave the project.

Sorry to hear you say that Mutt. Just remember that if you ever feel like searching for little green men again, we'll probably be here waiting when you come back (unless SETI gets shut down for lack of funding that is).

So he/she goes away. More work for us. Good riddance!

Jim

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Thanks,
Jim

Part of the problem maybe, I have WUs completed on 8/11/08 along with my wingperson, that might be cluttering the servers.

I am sure not the only one. Maybe the powers to be can address that tomorrow.

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If I look at some of the things said, my cache ran out AND I am increasing my cache size AND the Original problem of out of drive space. People are losing perspective. Seti has finite resources (people or hardware)!

Well for a several hundred workunits you received for that 10 day cache it means Seti has to store them UNTIL You Report them. So while someone that has the default 1 day cache is waiting nine days as Seti has to store the results (somewhere). While that is happening people are complaining their pending credit has risen... What is wrong with this picture? It is a cycle that is still being repeated due to lack of knowledge. Matt has stated in several posts to the tech news that drive space is an issue.

It is Marbles in a pipe if a short pipe fits twenty marbles, you are not happy and go buy a pipe that is long enough to hold a thousand marbles then it still relates to the first marble in. For the short pipe it takes twenty time cycles to get it out the other end. The longer pipe will take 1000 time cycles to get it out (no matter how fast the pipe is). First In First Out (FIFO)

Increasing the cache size is only making the problem Worse, Not better. If you increase the cache size and set no new tasks or suspend the network until you know that the log jam has cleared then you are being more responsible. Otherwise you are making the very problem you are complaining about. After having watched the Server Statistics for years the average turn around is about 3 days. Pending credit return is about three days. Until lately the largest outage was less than three days. Think about it.

For myself, I have a backup project that is set for 1/5th of Seti. My CPU's are warm and happy. In a couple of circumstances I have suspended Seti to allow relief on the Seti Servers. But those are in the pipe that only fits 10 marbles and will not cause anyone to wait for an extra long time...

One machine was crunching a few AP's and has not noticed the outage.

Regards

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If I look at some of the things said, my cache ran out AND I am increasing my cache size AND the Original problem of out of drive space. People are losing perspective. Seti has finite resources (people or hardware)!

Well for a several hundred workunits you received for that 10 day cache it means Seti has to store them UNTIL You Report them. So while someone that has the default 1 day cache is waiting nine days as Seti has to store the results (somewhere). While that is happening people are complaining their pending credit has risen... What is wrong with this picture? It is a cycle that is still being repeated due to lack of knowledge. Matt has stated in several posts to the tech news that drive space is an issue.

It is Marbles in a pipe if a short pipe fits twenty marbles, you are not happy and go buy a pipe that is long enough to hold a thousand marbles then it still relates to the first marble in. For the short pipe it takes twenty time cycles to get it out the other end. The longer pipe will take 1000 time cycles to get it out (no matter how fast the pipe is). First In First Out (FIFO)

Increasing the cache size is only making the problem Worse, Not better. If you increase the cache size and set no new tasks or suspend the network until you know that the log jam has cleared then you are being more responsible. Otherwise you are making the very problem you are complaining about. After having watched the Server Statistics for years the average turn around is about 3 days. Pending credit return is about three days. Until lately the largest outage was less than three days. Think about it.

For myself, I have a backup project that is set for 1/5th of Seti. My CPU's are warm and happy. In a couple of circumstances I have suspended Seti to allow relief on the Seti Servers. But those are in the pipe that only fits 10 marbles and will not cause anyone to wait for an extra long time...

One machine was crunching a few AP's and has not noticed the outage.

Regards

This morning, all my hosts received new WU's, after 5 day's. Only 1 host, running LINUX, received AP WU's, it runs NO opti-app, just OC'ed
But I do have a few back up project's like Einstein and LHC.
And I need to replace the stock cooler on a Pentium 4Dual-Core (D820; 2,8GiG, Smithfield).
When it gets to hot and it always does, @ 100% even @ 80%, it makes a terrible noise, so I'll have to check and repair that one.
Keep On CRUNCH1NG

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Well for a several hundred workunits you received for that 10 day cache it means Seti has to store them UNTIL You Report them. So while someone that has the default 1 day cache is waiting nine days as Seti has to store the results (somewhere). While that is happening people are complaining their pending credit has risen... What is wrong with this picture? It is a cycle that is still being repeated due to lack of knowledge. Matt has stated in several posts to the tech news that drive space is an issue.

That is a good point, maybe the maximum cache size allowable should be reduced from 10 days to 7 days to alleviate the space issue a little.

Others have made the point of people donating funds to help the project which I fully support, however if you are not in the US donating can an issue. For example if you use a debit card instead of a credit card or if you would like to
use paypal.

Others have made the point of people donating funds to help the project which I fully support, however if you are not in the US donating can an issue. For example if you use a debit card instead of a credit card or if you would like to
use paypal.

Sorry but Paypal is currently not available for donations at this time.

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Sorry but Paypal is currently not available for donations at this time.

What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

Well for a several hundred workunits you received for that 10 day cache it means Seti has to store them UNTIL You Report them. So while someone that has the default 1 day cache is waiting nine days as Seti has to store the results (somewhere). While that is happening people are complaining their pending credit has risen... What is wrong with this picture? It is a cycle that is still being repeated due to lack of knowledge. Matt has stated in several posts to the tech news that drive space is an issue.

That is a good point, maybe the maximum cache size allowable should be reduced from 10 days to 7 days to alleviate the space issue a little.

Others have made the point of people donating funds to help the project which I fully support, however if you are not in the US donating can an issue. For example if you use a debit card instead of a credit card or if you would like to
use paypal.

I have used a UK Visa debit ('Delta') card on the "credit" card pages with no trouble - I think anything with a Visa or Mastercard logo would be welcome there.

Which reminds me - my green star has faded over the last 12 months....

What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

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What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

And yes, debit cards are still accepted.

What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

And yes, debit cards are still accepted.

Just not all the UK ones!!

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What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

And yes, debit cards are still accepted.

Just not all the UK ones!!

Well, my UK debit card has refreshed the green star that wasn't showing a couple of hours ago - what sort of error message do you get when you try yours?

What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

And yes, debit cards are still accepted.

Just not all the UK ones!!

Well, my UK debit card has refreshed the green star that wasn't showing a couple of hours ago - what sort of error message do you get when you try yours?

My card (Maestro) is not a choice. Not valid in US only Europe apparently.

Bernie

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What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

And yes, debit cards are still accepted.

Just not all the UK ones!!

Well, my UK debit card has refreshed the green star that wasn't showing a couple of hours ago - what sort of error message do you get when you try yours?

My card (Maestro) is not a choice. Not valid in US only Europe apparently.

Bernie

What happens when you fill in your Maestro number in the Mastercard option?

What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and Paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

Hey Blurf here's how to use Paypal for a Donation to Seti, Make sure one has a Paypal Debit card w/a MasterCard Logo and ones all set(as long as there's a cash balance in Paypal of course and Yes I have one, Just not enough cash to go around mostly), Instantly the problem is solved(for some).

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What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

And yes, debit cards are still accepted.

Just not all the UK ones!!

Well, my UK debit card has refreshed the green star that wasn't showing a couple of hours ago - what sort of error message do you get when you try yours?

My card (Maestro) is not a choice. Not valid in US only Europe apparently.

Bernie

What happens when you fill in your Maestro number in the Mastercard option?

I get a red ? next to the card number on the form!!

Annoying. It also looks like the only way might be an international money order, which is apparently fraught with potential problems!

Bernie

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Or a travelers check, which ever is cheaper.

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What is the reasoning behind not accepting debit cards and Paypal payments and are there any alternatives available?

My understanding is that the Berkeley higher-ups (ie not the Seti staff) had some concerns with Paypal and deemed that Seti can't use it for donations.

Here's a link to the donations page for alternative donation methods.

Hey Blurf here's how to use Paypal for a Donation to Seti, Make sure one has a Paypal Debit card w/a MasterCard Logo and ones all set(as long as there's a cash balance in Paypal of course and Yes I have one, Just not enough cash to go around mostly), Instantly the problem is solved(for some).

Once again only available to US residents!!

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Since when can't you get travelers checks anymore in Europe?

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Since when can't you get travelers checks anymore in Europe?

I was replying to the previous post about the PayPal credit card.

I was about to ask if Travelers checks are secure as I would have to send them via mail to Berkeley.

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