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The cache & downloading WUs?
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John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
I have a C2Q which recently seems to have got a mind of it's own, and my fiddling has not cured it. I am currently running the recommended BOINC Manager (5.10.30). Before this (yesterday) I was running 5.10.20, and in both cases it crunched WUs OK. Where my problem comes is for the size of the cache of WUs ready to start. A week ago it was running with 5 days cache, which were crunched but not replaced. This went on and the rig ran as if there was no cache (what it was crunching plus a spare WU for each core). I tried upping the cache to 8 days, and I get this in the BOINC Manager messages tab - 19/02/2008 10:35:59|SETI@home|Computation for task 29no06aa.5993.19295.10.7.201_0 finished 19/02/2008 10:35:59|SETI@home|Starting 29no06aa.5993.19295.10.7.163_0 19/02/2008 10:35:59|SETI@home|Starting task 29no06aa.5993.19295.10.7.163_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527 19/02/2008 10:36:01|SETI@home|Started upload of 29no06aa.5993.19295.10.7.201_0_0 19/02/2008 10:36:04|SETI@home|Finished upload of 29no06aa.5993.19295.10.7.201_0_0 19/02/2008 10:36:15|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks 19/02/2008 10:36:20|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks 19/02/2008 10:36:30|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks 19/02/2008 10:36:35|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks Yesterday, when the WUs were nearly cleared I detached from SETI. Cleared all data from the BOINC folder and the projects folder and installed 5.10.30, then reattached. The system downloaded about 150 WUs OK. But since the number of cached WUs is dropping and no new WUs are being downloaded, as per Messages tab. Is there anything I can do to return the rig to normal, and working with a reasonable cache like the rest of my rigs? It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19078 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Had similar problem on one of mine recently, the clock had gone forward a couple of months for some unknown reason. But the net result was that the line; While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed 99.9922 % had reduced to about 23.nnnn% The line reporting this is in client_state.xml file on line; <cpu_efficiency>0.999922</cpu_efficiency> If this is case stop BOINC, edit to reasonable figure, in format shown, and restart BOINC. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Had similar problem on one of mine recently, the clock had gone forward a couple of months for some unknown reason. But the net result was that the line; I think that particular error would be in <active_frac>0.999938</active_frac> but the principle is good - check all the metrics in <time_stats> While you're in there, perhaps also check <duration_correction_factor>0.276953</duration_correction_factor> (there's a separate one for each project). Anything more than 0.500000 for SETI is suspect - with an optimised application, it'll probably be below 0.300000, as here. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Thanks I need to go out for a couple of hours, but will look over your suggested changes. I hope they give the clues needed, and I can get the cache working normally. That way I can cover the Planned Outrage at 6.00 pm UTC tonight, and it will help reduce my growing pending credit pile (now nearly 20,000 cobblestones). It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
JDWhale Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 |
So many ways to control the cache, so many different behaviors. I've gone with setting "local preferences" to: Connect about every 0.0 days Additional work buffer 5.0 days Setting connect interval to 5 days causes download havoc with the flood of "shorties" coming down the pipe due to the short deadlines. YMMV |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Very true. I think I am getting a flood of shorties now that WUs are now coming down in droves. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
Had similar problem on one of mine recently, the clock had gone forward a couple of months for some unknown reason. But the net result was that the line; Thanks both to WinterKnight and Richard Haselgrove I now have a flood of WUs to tide me over the Planned Outrage in a few hours. I went in to both files - client_state.xml and the client_state_previous.xml and found the statement for the <active frac> was given as 0.070707 and 0.070167. As soon as I amended these to 0.999938 and rebooted BOINC the WUs flooded down, with a request for 1,294,796 seconds of work. I will let the rig crunch like this for a few days, then reduce my cache in the General Preferences to one third the setting I currently demand. Many thanks, and I hope to see WUs coming down as work is crunched. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
@ JC - got a whole bunch of those shorties - crunched in like 32 min on dv9060us Duo Core 2 . . . returned and waitin' , , , found that i was crunchin (Wingman) with Mark Sattler ;)) Hope you are well and all is fine w/ You & Family Sir! richard BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
I am good and you will get rid of the shorties soon. Be interesting to time your shorty WU time with Mark's. Shorties for me take between 14 minutes (on the new rig) and 20 on the older one. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
I am good and you will get rid of the shorties soon. Be interesting to time your shorty WU time with Mark's. i believe that the last one i finished was 32 minutes on the Core 2 Duo . . . Mark hasn't started that one yet - as far as i know < Q. is your System the new Dual you mentioned to mi on Skype? BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
I am good and you will get rid of the shorties soon. Be interesting to time your shorty WU time with Mark's. No! It's a Penryn Quad with air cooling, running at 4.0GHz It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
I am good and you will get rid of the shorties soon. Be interesting to time your shorty WU time with Mark's. YUMMY BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
SATAN Send message Joined: 27 Aug 06 Posts: 835 Credit: 2,129,006 RAC: 0 |
No fair i wanna over clock. |
John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0 |
No fair i wanna over clock. Not competitive with your V8 Mac though! It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues |
SATAN Send message Joined: 27 Aug 06 Posts: 835 Credit: 2,129,006 RAC: 0 |
So, I still want to over clock it! Maybe i'll figure a way one day. |
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