*****BEETHOVEN'S CAFE XV***** - Closed for Renovations

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Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 762594 - Posted: 4 Jun 2008, 0:46:21 UTC Justices reject MLB's illogic, shameless greed June 3, 2008 Yesterday, without comment, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear Major League Baseball's appeal of two lower-court rulings that held players' names and statistics are in the public domain and thus can be used freely by Web sites catering to the millions of Americans in Ã¢â‚¬Å“fantasyÃ¢â‚¬Â sports leagues. These leagues Ã¢â‚¬â€œ in which fans draft individual players and compete to see whose team can amass the best cumulative statistics over a season Ã¢â‚¬â€œ have helped build and intensify interest in baseball. But baseball Ã¢â‚¬â€œ as well as the National Football League, the National Basketball Association and the National Hockey League Ã¢â‚¬â€œ has argued for years that player names and statistics are the jointly held intellectual property of players and teams. The leagues liken historical facts to the copyrighted work product of artists. This is absurd. If historical facts about an individual are private property, there goes free speech, the media, the education system and more. Beyond that, is there any logic in claiming that box scores showing Alex Rodriguez went eight for 22 with two home runs and five RBI last week are as protected in a property rights sense as Ã¢â‚¬Å“YesterdayÃ¢â‚¬Â by the Beatles? Of course not. This is why baseball's legal crusade went nowhere. Still, as nonsensical as players' and owners' legal arguments were, their greed is even more offensive. At a time when revenue has never been higher, baseball wants to wring more money out of fans, and by any means necessary. The sport, from San Diego to New York, should be ashamed. me@rescam.org ID: 762594 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 762619 - Posted: 4 Jun 2008, 1:17:58 UTC Even more severe storms headed in :( Already had to deal with a bunch earlier that knocked out the power. Looks as if there's a tornado watch until 3:00AM ID: 762619 ·

champ Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0	Message 763505 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 10:26:05 UTC Bump for Beets. ID: 763505 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 763525 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 10:50:08 UTC Last modified: 6 Jun 2008, 10:55:17 UTC Ruh roh, Astrodog........the kitties run for cover...... Looks like a squall line heading my way.... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 763525 ·

Luke Volunteer developer Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0	Message 763528 - Posted: 6 Jun 2008, 11:01:11 UTC Weather not looking very sunny here.... Were I live in Wellington right now, it is 11:00PM, Friday, 6 June 2008, 6 days until my birthday.... ah geez.... Not raining outside, but very, very gusty.... Weather Analysis (3hrs ago): Rain Radar Wellington (3hrs ago): Weather Satellite (3hrs ago): May not look like much... but I can hear the winds getting stronger.... its gonna' be a bumpy few hours.... - Luke. ID: 763528 ·

Daniel Michel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6	Message 764568 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 2:51:42 UTC Anybody seen Beets lately?...Hey Beets!...Where are you? PROUD TO BE TFFE! ID: 764568 ·

codycowboy Send message Joined: 27 Mar 05 Posts: 1871 Credit: 455,331 RAC: 0	Message 764855 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 18:07:19 UTC Been wondering that myself, Dan. Thought I heard he was having computer problems. ID: 764855 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 764923 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 19:56:20 UTC - in response to Message 764568. Anybody seen Beets lately?...Hey Beets!...Where are you? I haven't heard from him in a few days. ID: 764923 ·

Stealth Eagle* Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Sep 00 Posts: 5971 Credit: 367,640 RAC: 0	Message 764982 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 21:27:17 UTC He hasn't been around since he went off to watch those movies on the 30th Friday before last. Has he forgotten us, or did he get transported into the movies? Beets Where have you gotten to? What you do today you will have to live with tonight ID: 764982 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 764985 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 21:29:02 UTC - in response to Message 764982. He hasn't been around since he went off to watch those movies on the 30th Friday before last. Has he forgotten us, or did he get transported into the movies? Beets Where have you gotten to? I just sent an email so maybe we can find out what is going on here. ID: 764985 ·

champ Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 03 Posts: 3642 Credit: 1,489,147 RAC: 0	Message 764988 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 21:32:52 UTC - in response to Message 764985. He hasn't been around since he went off to watch those movies on the 30th Friday before last. Has he forgotten us, or did he get transported into the movies? Beets Where have you gotten to? I just sent an email so maybe we can find out what is going on here. Good idea. Keep us informed. ID: 764988 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 764991 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 21:34:47 UTC - in response to Message 764988. He hasn't been around since he went off to watch those movies on the 30th Friday before last. Has he forgotten us, or did he get transported into the movies? Beets Where have you gotten to? I just sent an email so maybe we can find out what is going on here. Good idea. Keep us informed. I will if I ever hear back. I must now go out for the night. I have to take these babies back to their parents, go to dinner with some friends and then go and see Indiana Jones. ID: 764991 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 765036 - Posted: 8 Jun 2008, 23:27:36 UTC heh heh heh me@rescam.org ID: 765036 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 765079 - Posted: 9 Jun 2008, 2:09:39 UTC - in response to Message 765036. heh heh heh Hello Misfit. ID: 765079 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 765102 - Posted: 9 Jun 2008, 3:19:40 UTC I just heard back from Beets and all is well with him. The message said that things has been hectic in his life and that he was going to take a trip for the first time in years. It also thanked everyone for being concerned about his where abouts and that everything was okay. ID: 765102 ·

Stealth Eagle* Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Sep 00 Posts: 5971 Credit: 367,640 RAC: 0	Message 765523 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 2:25:22 UTC - in response to Message 765102. I just heard back from Beets and all is well with him. The message said that things has been hectic in his life and that he was going to take a trip for the first time in years. It also thanked everyone for being concerned about his where abouts and that everything was okay. Thanks for the update Albert. What you do today you will have to live with tonight ID: 765523 ·

Mr. Majestic Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Nov 07 Posts: 4752 Credit: 258,845 RAC: 0	Message 765541 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 3:37:19 UTC - in response to Message 765523. I just heard back from Beets and all is well with him. The message said that things has been hectic in his life and that he was going to take a trip for the first time in years. It also thanked everyone for being concerned about his where abouts and that everything was okay. Thanks for the update Albert. No problem. ID: 765541 ·

Luke Volunteer developer Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0	Message 765582 - Posted: 10 Jun 2008, 6:48:38 UTC Hi All, Hope everyone is well! Today I got myself a day off work, to go round Wellington... weather was beautiful... and a great day out... Started out at 8:30 AM, biked round a bike trail, took me about an hour... went to Wellington after that... I had lunch today at a small restaurant called Port Cafe... lovely meal... Cost me NZ$51.00, but it was a worth it.... Wellington from the waterfront... Shoulda' got more photos, but my digital camera failed on me coz' I forgot to charge the battery... damn... Went to the movies to see "21".... Browsed through shops, bought myself House MD Complete Season 2 for NZ$80.00... Got home about 6:20 PM... as I write this it is 7:00 PM.... Hope everyone else had a good day... Luke. - Luke. ID: 765582 ·

Daniel Michel Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6	Message 766535 - Posted: 12 Jun 2008, 0:25:25 UTC Excellent pictures Luke...and Happy Birthday! PROUD TO BE TFFE! ID: 766535 ·

Beethoven Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 15274 Credit: 8,546 RAC: 0	Message 766567 - Posted: 12 Jun 2008, 0:52:36 UTC Hello Dear Friends!!! As I said on the "Icy Chess Challange" thread, I'm breaking a promise not to post until I've finished preperation for my trip. It's like that Pringles Potato Chips ad: "I bet you can't do just one." And sure enough, I come here and see that it's Luke's Birthday!!! Have yourself a very merry Birthday, Dear Friend, with a great year to follow until your next one!!!! Hi Dan! Hi Albert! Hi Bob! Hi Misfit! Hi Chris! Hi Cody! Hi Champ! Hi Mark! Good to see you guys, if only for a quick drive-by!!! :]]] Okay, now back to packing and figuring out what to do about the Cat from Hell while I'm gone for 10 days. You guys have a great time in the meantime, okay? GOD BLESS!!! Beets ID: 766567 ·

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