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Message 709020 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 23:59:12 UTC - in response to Message 708986.  

Great...

Now I don't know where I fall in this banter!

150 PC's......254 Cores..... 99% are authorized....In one manner or another...

Healthy? Obsessed? Enigma wrapped up in a conundruum?

Who's to tell!?!?


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LOL.......our RACs are about the same.....
You are doing it with 150 PCs, I am doing it with 8...
Who is the more obsessed?? Hmmmmmmm.....a conundrum...LOL.


My guess will be that it is the one who is paying the power bill out of his own pocket ;) ??

Seriously, how much power does Your 8 machines toll Your power bill?

No offence intended..

I have 2 hosts running only, although I could start a couple of machines more, but my budget says stop. :(

Happy crunching :)

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I'd say about $200.00/month for the crunchers...it's gonna get a bit tough when the weather warms and I have to run AC 24/7 to keep the house cool enough to keep them online.....
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Message 709080 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 1:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 709020.  



My guess will be that it is the one who is paying the power bill out of his own pocket ;) ??

Seriously, how much power does Your 8 machines toll Your power bill?
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I'd say about $200.00/month for the crunchers...it's gonna get a bit tough when the weather warms and I have to run AC 24/7 to keep the house cool enough to keep them online.....


Perhaps if you ask nicely, the crunchers will let you and the kitties move into their cool house with them. roflmao.


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Message 709086 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 1:42:21 UTC

I guess I am similar, but at a lower level to Mark.

I have 2 Quads on SETI and 2 other rigs on Einstein

The power bill seems to be between £50 and £75 per month (say $100 5o $150 per mnonth).. At least there is no A/C issue in the summer.
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Message 709091 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 1:53:43 UTC - in response to Message 709086.  
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I guess I am similar, but at a lower level to Mark.

I have 2 Quads on SETI and 2 other rigs on Einstein

The power bill seems to be between £50 and £75 per month (say $100 5o $150 per month).. At least there is no A/C issue in the summer.

Not surprising really, If It weren't for the Gulf stream, You'd be up to Your neck in an Ice Sheet and the Chunnel would never have been dug most likely. I on the other hand have summer to look forward to and the cooling costs last year for more than 2 PCs were over $100 a month and I don't have any working A/C, Just an Evaporative Cooler which might be Ok for 2 or maybe 3 Quad core PCs(2-QX6700 and 1-Q6600 cpus). My last electric bill during the winter here was $75.70 for just the 2-QX6700 PCs, The Q6600 I just acquired and is not in a PC yet, My heating is by way of Natural Gas and those costs were $48.35 and It's a central heating system that an A/C system that I never got working is attached to and I'd hate to use the A/C except on really humid days here in August/September(monsoon season here) as temps in the summer are usually over 95F to about 115F max.
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Message 709145 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 4:13:30 UTC

Update on the quad...

Named it Betsy, first cow on the SETI@Home farm.

The hardware is all running fine under Win XP Pro but Ubuntu is giving me fits. I am sorry wingmen for hanging 7 WU out into space on the first install attempt.

G0 Q6600 cooled by a AC Freezer Pro 7
GA-G31M-S2L MB, 2gig PC800 ram

Currently have an ide 80gig HD and CD/DVD-R installed. These will be replaced by 2 sata HD in raid 0 and a sata DVD-R/W.

Not going to O/C this rig for now but will be running Crunch3r's apps.

I haven't given up on running Ubuntu. I think most the problems are with the onboard video. May end up buying a cheapo ATI video card and disabling the onboard video. Will have to see.

Shadara(my kitty) says Meow!

I used to be a cruncher like you, then I took an arrow to the knee.
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Message 709160 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 4:56:13 UTC - in response to Message 709145.  

Update on the quad...

Named it Betsy, first cow on the SETI@Home farm.

The hardware is all running fine under Win XP Pro but Ubuntu is giving me fits. I am sorry wingmen for hanging 7 WU out into space on the first install attempt.

G0 Q6600 cooled by a AC Freezer Pro 7
GA-G31M-S2L MB, 2gig PC800 ram

Currently have an ide 80gig HD and CD/DVD-R installed. These will be replaced by 2 sata HD in raid 0 and a sata DVD-R/W.

Not going to O/C this rig for now but will be running Crunch3r's apps.

I haven't given up on running Ubuntu. I think most the problems are with the onboard video. May end up buying a cheapo ATI video card and disabling the onboard video. Will have to see.

Shadara(my kitty) says Meow!

Good luck with your efforts......
The kittie say meoooowwww to Shadara......(great name for a kitty)!
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Message 709163 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 5:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 709160.  

Update on the quad...

Named it Betsy, first cow on the SETI@Home farm.

The hardware is all running fine under Win XP Pro but Ubuntu is giving me fits. I am sorry wingmen for hanging 7 WU out into space on the first install attempt.

G0 Q6600 cooled by a AC Freezer Pro 7
GA-G31M-S2L MB, 2gig PC800 ram

Currently have an ide 80gig HD and CD/DVD-R installed. These will be replaced by 2 sata HD in raid 0 and a sata DVD-R/W.

Not going to O/C this rig for now but will be running Crunch3r's apps.

I haven't given up on running Ubuntu. I think most the problems are with the onboard video. May end up buying a cheapo ATI video card and disabling the onboard video. Will have to see.

Shadara(my kitty) says Meow!

Good luck with your efforts......
The kitty say meoooowwww to Shadara......(great name for a kitty)!

ATi is ok If It's fast enough for the OS, Angel(My cat) is interested in one or eventually two of those new ATi HD3870 X2 cards. Anything is usually better than the onboard video with Seti.
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Message 709171 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 5:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 709145.  

Update on the quad...

Named it Betsy, first cow on the SETI@Home farm.

The hardware is all running fine under Win XP Pro but Ubuntu is giving me fits. I am sorry wingmen for hanging 7 WU out into space on the first install attempt.

G0 Q6600 cooled by a AC Freezer Pro 7
GA-G31M-S2L MB, 2gig PC800 ram

Currently have an ide 80gig HD and CD/DVD-R installed. These will be replaced by 2 sata HD in raid 0 and a sata DVD-R/W.

Not going to O/C this rig for now but will be running Crunch3r's apps.

I haven't given up on running Ubuntu. I think most the problems are with the onboard video. May end up buying a cheapo ATI video card and disabling the onboard video. Will have to see.

Shadara(my kitty) says Meow!


I have the EXACT same motherboard with an e4500, overclocking is easy on this mobo, but I cant POST over 3.0ghz.

The onboard video is absolute crap and killed windows whenever I installed the drivers. I have a new video card coming in tomorrow to solve that. XFX 7400gs from Newegg for cheap with a rebate to boot.
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Message 709190 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 6:59:27 UTC
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Fpr my part I'd say...
...obsession... ;)
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Message 709238 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 10:48:10 UTC

I tend to remember a user in London who's flat were electrically heated. A bit expensive these days, but he would be the ideal landlord for a bunch of crunchers, if he could stand all the noise. :)

With so many crunshers having heat problems in the summer season, it might be a good idea creating a thread with practical ideas on how to cool Your crunchers best and most power efficent.

Ideas Folks?

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Message 709252 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 11:33:31 UTC - in response to Message 709238.  

With so many crunshers having heat problems in the summer season, it might be a good idea creating a thread with practical ideas on how to cool Your crunchers best and most power efficent.

Ideas Folks?

Not exactly practical on a wide scale, but do what I do- I have 1 laptop located in the basement (a former Rec. Room, now a "guest bedroom"); it (Room Temperature) is consistently about 10 Deg. F. lower than the Upper Level.

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Message 709333 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 17:57:15 UTC

I quess that's another fact that push on over in to the obsession cat-agory. Do you have a dedicated AC system to keep your computers running? I do.
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Message 709453 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 23:21:10 UTC - in response to Message 709238.  

With so many crunshers having heat problems in the summer season, it might be a good idea creating a thread with practical ideas on how to cool Your crunchers best and most power efficent.

Ideas Folks?

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Message 709454 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 23:26:08 UTC

The only other thought I have had was to transfer the farm from my living room into the cooler basement....but I have doubts that the heat sinking abilities of the concrete basement walls could keep things cool down there...
might have to experiment with it in the next few months....
Maybe moving just a few of them down there would cut the heatload in the main living space down a bit.
Would have to invest either in some cables long enough to snake upstairs to my kvm or some wireless or other solution to communicate with them.....
And reboots when they crash would require trekking down to the basement...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
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Message 709498 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 0:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 709454.  

The only other thought I have had was to transfer the farm from my living room into the cooler basement....but I have doubts that the heat sinking abilities of the concrete basement walls could keep things cool down there...
might have to experiment with it in the next few months....
Maybe moving just a few of them down there would cut the heatload in the main living space down a bit.
Would have to invest either in some cables long enough to snake upstairs to my kvm or some wireless or other solution to communicate with them.....
And reboots when they crash would require trekking down to the basement...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Wireless KVM, Hmm, Expensive option, Move the KVM down with all the PCs except one and get a second mouse, keyboard and monitor, Speakers too if needed for the one PC left upstairs by itself, Then there's the ethernet and internet connection to worry about down in Your basement, Still cheaper than the wireless KVM I'd think. :D
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Message 709561 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 4:26:26 UTC - in response to Message 709454.  

The only other thought I have had was to transfer the farm from my living room into the cooler basement....but I have doubts that the heat sinking abilities of the concrete basement walls could keep things cool down there...
might have to experiment with it in the next few months....
Maybe moving just a few of them down there would cut the heatload in the main living space down a bit.
Would have to invest either in some cables long enough to snake upstairs to my kvm or some wireless or other solution to communicate with them.....
And reboots when they crash would require trekking down to the basement...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....


Wireless KVM? No.
VNC? Yes. :)
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The only other thought I have had was to transfer the farm from my living room into the cooler basement....but I have doubts that the heat sinking abilities of the concrete basement walls could keep things cool down there...
might have to experiment with it in the next few months....
Maybe moving just a few of them down there would cut the heatload in the main living space down a bit.
Would have to invest either in some cables long enough to snake upstairs to my kvm or some wireless or other solution to communicate with them.....
And reboots when they crash would require trekking down to the basement...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....


Wireless KVM? No.
VNC? Yes. :)

I am sure there is more than one way to do it.......but a reboot in the case of a crash would still require me to pry my butt off of the couch and go downstairs to hit the buttons.......
May not seem like much to you, but when all your rigs are OC'd as far as mine are, reboots are required a bit more often that usual....actually, the farm has been pretty stable as of late......maybe I'm not pushing things far enough...LOL.
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Wireless KVM? No.
VNC? Yes. :)

I am sure there is more than one way to do it.......but a reboot in the case of a crash would still require me to pry my butt off of the couch and go downstairs to hit the buttons.......
May not seem like much to you, but when all your rigs are OC'd as far as mine are, reboots are required a bit more often that usual....actually, the farm has been pretty stable as of late......maybe I'm not pushing things far enough...LOL.

Okay, VNC and a hardware watchdog card.

A program "pets the watchdog" and if it doesn't get petted often enough, the watchdog card hits the reset button.

PM me if you can't find a wide selection through google.
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Wireless KVM? No.
VNC? Yes. :)

I am sure there is more than one way to do it.......but a reboot in the case of a crash would still require me to pry my butt off of the couch and go downstairs to hit the buttons.......
May not seem like much to you, but when all your rigs are OC'd as far as mine are, reboots are required a bit more often that usual....actually, the farm has been pretty stable as of late......maybe I'm not pushing things far enough...LOL.

Okay, VNC and a hardware watchdog card.

A program "pets the watchdog" and if it doesn't get petted often enough, the watchdog card hits the reset button.

PM me if you can't find a wide selection through google.


But if the rig crashes and the cpu quits, would the watchdog card keep running?
And you would have to hardwire it into the reset button switch?
And now that I think about it further, I have had rigs crash many times where the cpu stopped responding and the only way to reset the rig was to power off and back on.........because the reset button on the case would not reboot it.....
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Message 709578 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 5:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 709171.  

Update on the quad...

Named it Betsy, first cow on the SETI@Home farm.

The hardware is all running fine under Win XP Pro but Ubuntu is giving me fits. I am sorry wingmen for hanging 7 WU out into space on the first install attempt.

G0 Q6600 cooled by a AC Freezer Pro 7
GA-G31M-S2L MB, 2gig PC800 ram

Currently have an ide 80gig HD and CD/DVD-R installed. These will be replaced by 2 sata HD in raid 0 and a sata DVD-R/W.

Not going to O/C this rig for now but will be running Crunch3r's apps.

I haven't given up on running Ubuntu. I think most the problems are with the onboard video. May end up buying a cheapo ATI video card and disabling the onboard video. Will have to see.

Shadara(my kitty) says Meow!


I have the EXACT same motherboard with an e4500, overclocking is easy on this mobo, but I cant POST over 3.0ghz.

The onboard video is absolute crap and killed windows whenever I installed the drivers. I have a new video card coming in tomorrow to solve that. XFX 7400gs from Newegg for cheap with a rebate to boot.


Installed the new video card today and it booted right up faster than the onboard video and better looking too. XFX even has xp64 drivers available!
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