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Message 25022 - Posted: 11 Sep 2004, 8:56:00 UTC

I think that BOINC 4.05-08 is trying to embed itself into my OS, kinda like MSIE, and WM Player. Why else would it be there after it was uninstalled. Yes, I uninstalled it and then reinstalled it and my wu's reappeared.

I'm about BOINCed out.

Tired of things like copying a cd to hard drive taking a hour. Tired of my computer locking up after a few hours of inactivity. Tired of having to manually download wu's.

I'm just plain tired
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Message 25034 - Posted: 11 Sep 2004, 9:42:45 UTC

A quite normal behaviour. The uninstall file register the changes during the installation, not was has been put as extra afterwards. This means, the Wu's downloaded after the install are not recorded in the uninstall file and are therefore not deleted when you do an uninstall.
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Message 25140 - Posted: 11 Sep 2004, 15:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 25034.  

It usually also tells you this when you uninstall.
Something like "The dir wasn't empty, please delete yadayadayada". Don't know if BOINC does this.
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Message 25142 - Posted: 11 Sep 2004, 15:40:12 UTC
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I am also "paranoid" but when I uninstall a program. After uninstalling "bobo" I search the disk and remove everything "bobo" has created (folder, etc) Clean all "bobo" registery entries, temp item, etc. I am also using a lot of tools that helps me in my quest for complete program removing. On top of that my disk is always defrag and my machine runs faster then many others much more powerfull ones that are not properly maintained.

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Message 25195 - Posted: 11 Sep 2004, 18:21:01 UTC

Just because you are paranoid that does not mean that someone isn't really out to get you. :)

The uninstall behavior that you describe is "normal" Windows stuff... As Thierry said in an earlier posting, the Windows registry stores stuff like that as well as files and/or folders being left behind by the uninstall. Windows Odd Behavior #342823793461205672384.2:

Uninstall Doesn't

As far as the crashes and such, that is strange to me. Do you have the most recent versions of both BOINC and the project applications?

On the time-slicing (CD burn taking an hour), that is clearly abnormal behavior. I can burn a CD, be online surfing, BOINCing in the background, and checking E-Mail all at the same time. A few more details would help to Dx the problem... What OS? CPU? How much RAM? How many HDD and on what IDE channel? What brand and speed of burner and on what IDE channel? Other stuff that might be useful and/or important.

Cheers!



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Message 25228 - Posted: 11 Sep 2004, 19:56:14 UTC - in response to Message 25022.  

> Tired of things like copying a cd to hard drive taking a hour. Tired of my
> computer locking up after a few hours of inactivity. Tired of having to
> manually download wu's.

BOINC will not affect your CD/hard drive transfer unless something else is really messed up... Are you sure your CD drive is in DMA mode and not PIO? Windows likes to randomly change this setting on you. Also, your computer shouldn't be locking up (unless you are using BOINC v4.05 under windows 98/ME. If you are locking up, chances are your CPU cooling system is inadequate and the CPU is becoming unstable or some part of your computer is defective.

> I'm just plain tired

May I suggest a nap? :)



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Message 25556 - Posted: 12 Sep 2004, 16:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 25228.  

That was a good tip on the DMA setting on the CD ROM. I'm not sure if it'll do any good but I did set it to DMA. BOINC is doing a lot of strange things to Win98 systems and it's not just 4.05. 4.08 appears to only have internal problems, but it's still fresh off the press.

Thank all of for for setting me straight on how uninstall works. After having done a format and reinstall of Win98se because 4.05, 4.06 contributed to a corruption of C:, I'm still leary that BOINC is doing things other than BOINC.

kc6ufm, you have described normal behavior for my computer as well. While not state of the art, my box is more than adequate.

Asus A7N8X motherboard
2500+ Barton
512MB CAS2 2700 DDR
100GB Western Digital w/8MB cache (primary master)
Abit Ti4200 64MB AGP 4x
generic CDRW (seconday master)
Aopen svv winmodem
AC97 sound

One thing that I have noticed about the N-force chipset that is quite different in VIA chipsets is that an awful lot of devices share the same IRQ; for example my video and sound use IRQ 11 along with a NIC, modem enumerator, USB and various system functions. I have recently disabled two COM ports to free more IRQ's, but have yet to figure out how to get Windows to reorganzie the devices. In my last VIA chipset there was a reset in the bios, I have not found a similar function in the N-Force bios. I guess I could try to force the video to an open IRQ...
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Message 25569 - Posted: 12 Sep 2004, 17:30:55 UTC

You are right... Your PC is more than enough to do what is needed.

My optinion is that BOINC, as well as most other software today, is being written to make too many demands on PC hardware. Anyone remember "PaperClip"? A full featured word processor that did at least as much as MS Word 97 and ran in 64 KB of RAM on the old Atari and Commodore PCs... Was written totally in assembly.... But hey, that's another debate!

It has been 3 years now that I have been trying to decide if I like the n-Force chipsets... The jury is still out!


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Message 25584 - Posted: 12 Sep 2004, 17:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 25569.  

Stop advertising for a political candidate...

This is not a political forum.
Apart from this local politics doesn't interest us.




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