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Message 617932 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 10:51:25 UTC


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Message 617933 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 10:51:39 UTC

hmmm me rack should slowly get higher
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Message 617937 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 10:58:15 UTC - in response to Message 617933.  

hmmm me rack should slowly get higher

Mine should be going down then


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Message 617938 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 11:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 617932.  

I´m #1 in my Team.

So you are Mike. Good one!

It's a bit easier when all you crunch for is one project such as me.
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Message 617999 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 13:38:18 UTC - in response to Message 617961.  


Please READ what Simon has to say - Thank You


I don't use any optimizer since I'm not downloading any SETI right now, and for the first 250,000 SETI credits that I crunched I didn't use any optimizers since I was here for the science and not finding out how to fix the credit with non-BOINC applications. I processed the same WUs whatever credits I was awarded.

It would seem to me that this link merely publicizes the fact that if you use an older version of the optimizer you will get more credits. For yourself and your team. Duly noted I expect by those using the optimizers.


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Message 618008 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 13:47:49 UTC - in response to Message 617999.  
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Please RE-READ what Simon has to say - Thank You
(the S@H project) will reduce the credit multiplier even more to balance out the overclaimers, punishing EVERYONE for mistakes a few made . . .



I don't use any optimizer since I'm not downloading any SETI right now, and for the first 250,000 SETI credits that I crunched I didn't use any optimizers since I was here for the science and not finding out how to fix the credit with non-BOINC applications. I processed the same WUs whatever credits I was awarded.

It would seem to me that this link merely publicizes the fact that if you use an older version of the optimizer you will get more credits. For yourself and your team. Duly noted I expect by those using the optimizers.


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Message 618045 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 617999.  


Please READ what Simon has to say - Thank You


I don't use any optimizer since I'm not downloading any SETI right now, and for the first 250,000 SETI credits that I crunched I didn't use any optimizers since I was here for the science and not finding out how to fix the credit with non-BOINC applications. I processed the same WUs whatever credits I was awarded.

It would seem to me that this link merely publicizes the fact that if you use an older version of the optimizer you will get more credits. For yourself and your team. Duly noted I expect by those using the optimizers.


You are correct Ice.



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Message 618048 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:35:57 UTC
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Looking back at Chris's posts, and the current Chicken Soup 2.2B optimised SETI clients.

I assume there will be a version of the multi beam client which is self installing?

or

Is the current MB client at the Lunatic's site for each CPU type, as were the older Chicken Soup?

Richard

It usually takes a few days for crunchers to move over to the MB client. Is Eric giving an estimate of when he would consider the line needs to be drawn in the sand?
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Message 618050 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:39:02 UTC - in response to Message 617999.  


Please READ what Simon has to say - Thank You


I don't use any optimizer since I'm not downloading any SETI right now, and for the first 250,000 SETI credits that I crunched I didn't use any optimizers since I was here for the science and not finding out how to fix the credit with non-BOINC applications. I processed the same WUs whatever credits I was awarded.

It would seem to me that this link merely publicizes the fact that if you use an older version of the optimizer you will get more credits. For yourself and your team. Duly noted I expect by those using the optimizers.

Stooopid question but: does this mean that eating my chicken soup daily is cheating and that the results aren't valid? I only do it cuase it seems to make more efficient use of my computer time, but can easily live without it if it's not righteous.

btw: also number 1 on my team ;)

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Message 618055 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 618050.  
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Please READ what Simon has to say - Thank You


I don't use any optimizer since I'm not downloading any SETI right now, and for the first 250,000 SETI credits that I crunched I didn't use any optimizers since I was here for the science and not finding out how to fix the credit with non-BOINC applications. I processed the same WUs whatever credits I was awarded.

It would seem to me that this link merely publicizes the fact that if you use an older version of the optimizer you will get more credits. For yourself and your team. Duly noted I expect by those using the optimizers.

Stooopid question but: does this mean that eating my chicken soup daily is cheating and that the results aren't valid? I only do it cuase it seems to make more efficient use of my computer time, but can easily live without it if it's not righteous.

btw: also number 1 on my team ;)


No Kenzie, thats not cheating.

The credit is calculated higher on ver 2.2b.
You should only update as soon as possible that no discuession about cheating comes around.
Because user of chicken soup get more results finnished a day you even get more credits.

Thats all.



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Message 618058 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:46:06 UTC - in response to Message 618048.  

Looking back at Chris's posts, and the current Chicken Soup 2.2B optimised SETI clients.

I assume there will be a version of the multi beam client which is self installing?

or

Is the current MB client at the Lunatic's site for each CPU type, as were the older Chicken Soup?

Richard

It usually takes a few days for crunchers to move over to the MB client. Is Eric giving an estimate of when he would consider the line needs to be drawn in the sand?


< i believe - that as Eric has stated - "it's automatic" (thE move) - mi box is still crunchin' w/ 2.2B chicken + S@H_enhanced v517 - so . . . until their finished - it'll stay where it is . . .

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Message 618060 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 618058.  

Looking back at Chris's posts, and the current Chicken Soup 2.2B optimised SETI clients.

I assume there will be a version of the multi beam client which is self installing?

or

Is the current MB client at the Lunatic's site for each CPU type, as were the older Chicken Soup?

Richard

It usually takes a few days for crunchers to move over to the MB client. Is Eric giving an estimate of when he would consider the line needs to be drawn in the sand?


< i believe - that as Eric has stated - "it's automatic" (thE move) - mi box is still crunchin' w/ 2.2B chicken + S@H_enhanced v517 - so . . . until their finished - it'll stay where it is . . .



No, not true.

If you are using chickens app you have to update manually.
Because of the appinfo.xml.
The units will crunched showing 5.17.



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Message 618063 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 15:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 618060.  

Looking back at Chris's posts, and the current Chicken Soup 2.2B optimised SETI clients.

I assume there will be a version of the multi beam client which is self installing?

or

Is the current MB client at the Lunatic's site for each CPU type, as were the older Chicken Soup?

Richard

It usually takes a few days for crunchers to move over to the MB client. Is Eric giving an estimate of when he would consider the line needs to be drawn in the sand?


< i believe - that as Eric has stated - "it's automatic" (thE move) - mi box is still crunchin' w/ 2.2B chicken + S@H_enhanced v517 - so . . . until their finished - it'll stay where it is . . .



No, not true.

If you are using chickens app you have to update manually.
Because of the appinfo.xml.
The units will crunched showing 5.17.


S@h hasn't UPDATED mi box to v527 - so, since it's crunchin' v517 - i leave thE 2.2B - until i get v527 - there is NO need for lunatic upgrade (YET) - right?

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Message 618069 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 16:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 618063.  

Looking back at Chris's posts, and the current Chicken Soup 2.2B optimised SETI clients.

I assume there will be a version of the multi beam client which is self installing?

or

Is the current MB client at the Lunatic's site for each CPU type, as were the older Chicken Soup?

Richard

It usually takes a few days for crunchers to move over to the MB client. Is Eric giving an estimate of when he would consider the line needs to be drawn in the sand?


< i believe - that as Eric has stated - "it's automatic" (thE move) - mi box is still crunchin' w/ 2.2B chicken + S@H_enhanced v517 - so . . . until their finished - it'll stay where it is . . .



No, not true.

If you are using chickens app you have to update manually.
Because of the appinfo.xml.
The units will crunched showing 5.17.


S@h hasn't UPDATED mi box to v527 - so, since it's crunchin' v517 - i leave thE 2.2B - until i get v527 - there is NO need for lunatic upgrade (YET) - right?



You have to upgrade your chicken soup manually, from 2.2B to 2.4.

You will never get 5.27 because of the appinfo.xml.

You willl get multibeam WUs but not the app.

You can check on lunatics.at or on nc fora if you dont believe me.

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Message 618072 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 16:09:52 UTC



As you can see the last two was downloaded after upgrading to chicken 2.4.
Its shown as 5.27.
But the other are also multibeam WUs as you can see on the 07 of year.

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Message 618073 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 16:16:38 UTC - in response to Message 618055.  


Please READ what Simon has to say - Thank You


I don't use any optimizer since I'm not downloading any SETI right now, and for the first 250,000 SETI credits that I crunched I didn't use any optimizers since I was here for the science and not finding out how to fix the credit with non-BOINC applications. I processed the same WUs whatever credits I was awarded.

It would seem to me that this link merely publicizes the fact that if you use an older version of the optimizer you will get more credits. For yourself and your team. Duly noted I expect by those using the optimizers.

Stooopid question but: does this mean that eating my chicken soup daily is cheating and that the results aren't valid? I only do it cuase it seems to make more efficient use of my computer time, but can easily live without it if it's not righteous.

btw: also number 1 on my team ;)


No Kenzie, thats not cheating.

The credit is calculated higher on ver 2.2b.
You should only update as soon as possible that no discuession about cheating comes around.
Because user of chicken soup get more results finnished a day you even get more credits.

Thats all.

That's right Mike. Cheating is not appropriate or comes into this at all.

If you use a KWSN optimizers which turns around your WUs faster and you get more credits faster - that is not cheating. You computer is doing the work and earning the credits. But does everyone else in SETI use the Chicken optimizer? Does everyone know about it and wonder why others are accumulating credits faster? Are people coming here from other projects just to get credits faster, irrespective of what the SETI project is all about? Is it fair that your computer can earn xx% more than an identical computer crunching at say, climatepreditction.net?

All is fair in love and war. If you want to use optimizers to work more efficiently on SETI, then that is fair enough. It may not seem so to some here and in other projects who don't use SETI optimization.


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Message 618106 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 17:56:06 UTC

well thar u go - i 'KNEW' somebody had iT ALL Wrong . . .
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Message 618110 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 18:21:42 UTC

The kitties and I have updated all of my rigs to the new MultiChicken 2.4 release. I encourage all other optimized app users to do the same. It has the latest optimized crunching code.
We'll see how the RAC holds up after a few days of steady crunching, but I am sure it will be fine.

Things go better with Chicken. MultiChicken, that is.
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