...altar boys can't get pregnant.

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...altar boys can't get pregnant.

Ever see Junior?

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Pope says abortion "not a human right"

Well, I'm not Catholic, and I do not believe that the Pope is "God's substitute on earth" - but I totally concur to this sentence:

The fundamental human right, the presupposition of every other right, is the right to life itself. This is true of life from the moment of conception until its natural end. Abortion, consequently, cannot be a human right -- it is the very opposite.

Since abortion is killing a human being (which an embryo is nonetheless though being still unborn), one should have really very good reasons to abort.

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...Like the child being unwanted. Some might get adopted, the rest are sentenced to foster care and all its' evils. Never mind the human race is vastly overpopulated. Although abortion should not be used as a form of birth control, it should be available to women when birth control fails. It is not a man's decision. We'll need a woman Pope before I'll listen otherwise.

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Abortion is pretty much the only topic where I can generally agree with the pope's / the church's stance, but for rather different reasons (I don't believe that life is something "sacred" nor that "god" has all power over life [well, I don't even think deities of any kind exist, for that matter])

However, the church is far too restrictive, since it condemns abortion even iwhen the pregnancy is dangerous to the pregnant woman or when it is otherwise socially unacceptable (e.g. an 11-year old girl who became pregnant by her boyfriend, or a woman who became pregnant after she was raped). I think that the life of the mother is more important than that of her unborn child, especially if the mother already has other children.

Other than that, most of the things the Pope says are nonsense, at least to me, because I simply don't understand what he's trying to say. Even when he tries to explain a rather simple matter in a religious way, he tends to make matters only more complicated...

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Abortion is pretty much the only topic where I can generally agree with the pope's / the church's stance, but for rather different reasons (I don't believe that life is something "sacred" nor that "god" has all power over life [well, I don't even think deities of any kind exist, for that matter])

However, the church is far too restrictive, since it condemns abortion even iwhen the pregnancy is dangerous to the pregnant woman or when it is otherwise socially unacceptable (e.g. an 11-year old girl who became pregnant by her boyfriend, or a woman who became pregnant after she was raped). I think that the life of the mother is more important than that of her unborn child, especially if the mother already has other children.

Other than that, most of the things the Pope says are nonsense, at least to me, because I simply don't understand what he's trying to say. Even when he tries to explain a rather simple matter in a religious way, he tends to make matters only more complicated...

There are some of what I called "really very good reasons". Just killing the baby on a whim is not an acceptable reason to me.

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Abortion is pretty much the only topic where I can generally agree with the pope's / the church's stance, but for rather different reasons (I don't believe that life is something "sacred" nor that "god" has all power over life [well, I don't even think deities of any kind exist, for that matter])

However, the church is far too restrictive, since it condemns abortion even iwhen the pregnancy is dangerous to the pregnant woman or when it is otherwise socially unacceptable (e.g. an 11-year old girl who became pregnant by her boyfriend, or a woman who became pregnant after she was raped). I think that the life of the mother is more important than that of her unborn child, especially if the mother already has other children.

Other than that, most of the things the Pope says are nonsense, at least to me, because I simply don't understand what he's trying to say. Even when he tries to explain a rather simple matter in a religious way, he tends to make matters only more complicated...

There are some of what I called "really very good reasons". Just killing the baby on a whim is not an acceptable reason to me.

I would think this debate deserves its own thread. Would anyone mind if I started one on Abortion? It is a big topic.

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I would think this debate deserves its own thread. Would anyone mind if I started one on Abortion? It is a big topic.

Please start one! I don't like starting threads on my own, but you certainly don't mind, so please go ahead with it!

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I would think this debate deserves its own thread. Would anyone mind if I started one on Abortion? It is a big topic.

Please start one! I don't like starting threads on my own, but you certainly don't mind, so please go ahead with it!

Done..I shall come back later and get into a roaring argument with you about it if you want :)

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I would think this debate deserves its own thread. Would anyone mind if I started one on Abortion? It is a big topic.

Please start one! I don't like starting threads on my own, but you certainly don't mind, so please go ahead with it!

Done..I shall come back later and get into a roaring argument with you about it if you want :)

Noooooooo! I read somewhere that if that topic is ever made into a thread the sky will fall, the oceans will boil, the earth will swallow us up, and our flesh will be consumed by boll weevils.

Please don't.

(These people won't ever get around to the real issue anyway. And Zwerg will have to endorse some kind of Rights Theory and that's bound to make him go apoplectic)

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I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

I would think this debate deserves its own thread. Would anyone mind if I started one on Abortion? It is a big topic.

Please start one! I don't like starting threads on my own, but you certainly don't mind, so please go ahead with it!

Done..I shall come back later and get into a roaring argument with you about it if you want :)

Noooooooo! I read somewhere that if that topic is ever made into a thread the sky will fall, the oceans will boil, the earth will swallow us up, and our flesh will be consumed by boll weevils.

Please don't.

(These people won't ever get around to the real issue anyway. And Zwerg will have to endorse some kind of Rights Theory and that's bound to make him go apoplectic)

ap·o·plec·tic


adjective
Definition:

1. furious: overcome with anger

2. exhibiting symptoms of stroke: having the symptoms of a stroke ( archaic )

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Don't forget the sudden loss of muscular control.

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One day while he was at the track playing the ponies and all but losing his shirt, Mitch noticed a priest who stepped out onto the track and blessed the forehead of one of the horses lining up for the 4th race.

Lo and behold, that horse - a very long shot - won the race. Before the next race, as the horses began lining up, Mitch watched with interest the old priest step onto the track.

Sure enough, as the 5th race horses came to the starting gate the priest made a blessing on the forehead of one of the horses.

Mitch made a beeline for a betting window and placed a small bet on the horse. Again, even though it was another long shot, the horse the priest had blessed won the race.

Mitch collected his winnings, and anxiously waited to see which horse the priest would bless for the 6th race. The priest again blessed a horse.

Mitch bet big on it, and it won. Mitch was elated. As the races continued the priest kept blessing long shot horses, and each one ended up coming in first.

Bye and bye, Mitch was pulling in some serious money. By the last race, he knew his wildest dreams were going to come true. He made a quick dash to the ATM, withdrew all his savings, and awaited the priest's blessing that would tell him which horse to bet on.

True to his pattern, the priest stepped onto the track for the last race and blessed the forehead of an old nag that was the longest shot of the day. Mitch also observed the priest blessing the eyes, ears, and hooves of the old nag.

Mitch knew he had a winner and bet every cent he owned on the old nag. He then watched dumbfounded as the old nag come in dead last. Mitch, in a state of shock, made his way down to the track area where the priest was.

Confronting the old priest he demanded, "Father! What happened? All day long you blessed horses and they all won. Then in the last race, the horse you blessed lost by a Kentucky mile. Now, thanks to you I've lost every cent of my savings - all of it!".

The priest nodded wisely and with sympathy. "Son," he said, "that's the problem with you Protestants, you can't tell the difference between a simple blessing and last rites."

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"... and our flesh will be consumed by boll weevils."

Sadly, bollweevils only eat cotton...what you need to do is get aquainted with the African Putsi Fly...its' maggots only eat LIVE flesh.

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Objective or objectionable?

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

"... and our flesh will be consumed by boll weevils."

Sadly, bollweevils only eat cotton...what you need to do is get aquainted with the African Putsi Fly...its' maggots only eat LIVE flesh.

Ahh. So the Putsi Flies get started after the boll weevils gnaw through our clothing. Gotcha. Ohhhh. I think I feel 'em digging in now.....

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Was that objective?

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Was that objective?

And Noodly too....

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And Noodly too....

When you die, do you believe that you'll meet up with the rest of the noodles on the big meatball in the sky? ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

And Noodly too....

When you die, do you believe that you'll meet up with the rest of the noodles on the big meatball in the sky ? ;)

...that's as good as any other godhead...be sure to make offerings of burnt Alfredo sauce.

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