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Message 21774 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 7:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 21766.  
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Did you sleep this night? take a cop of coffee first, dont hurry.

>I'm not on any drugs
sure you are.

your drug is called boinc and posting forum... but you mentioned it, posting is still free.


I was opening this thread to read, what a surprised, only 1 signature from John McLeod VII is seeing here. touristing other threads, same thing, first some, not all, people could not place enought signatures, and now, much less
use of it. Basicly it's good to save a bit bandwith.

My first though was if there could be an other bug? but the experice shows, the most recently bus is most of the time the user iself. *smile*, the use of the word bug must be given.

"anti-leech protection"
I do not have any active leech protection, you see, I use this forum...

The security settings on the Internet Explorer are set to a relatively high level, a higher level as default. as an old man, having problem to think, it's better IE does it 4me.

having ad-aware from lavasoft and anti-virus appl, but no active "anti-leech protection".


still ??

walk you to bed.

bonne nuit!

ric

//offtopic
it looks like your "infiltration" thread could put some reflection to some people
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Message 21780 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 7:35:29 UTC

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Berkeley, SSL is one day behind you, therefore when it's Friday in China, it's Thursday in California. I hope that helps.
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Message 21783 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 8:04:21 UTC - in response to Message 21774.  

> walk you to bed.
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> bonne nuit!
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Thanks very much Ric I appreciate.
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Message 21790 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 8:50:46 UTC - in response to Message 21780.  
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> @ xi3piscium
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> Berkeley, SSL is one day behind you, therefore when it's Friday in China, it's
> Thursday in California. I hope that helps.
>
@dogbytes..I know the time difference, but am still skeptical about
the whole "snap work around...sorry I'm not trying to put a negative
spin on it, but the way things have been going lately....well you know.
I am howerver quite confident that the seti team will smooth things out
in time, the project is still in the infancy stage...Peace from China..
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Message 21823 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 11:21:50 UTC

I sure hope SNAP gave away this box. There are a lot of new iSCSI storage Start-ups around that offer high availability, low cost, high speed IP SAN. SNAP has been around for a long time and my experience is their stuff (albeit only the low-end gear) is bug central. I hope the Berkeley folks shopped around or wouldn’t be afraid to get something that works in there. Startups tend to make an extra special effort not to allow this type of situation drag on. Top engineers would be onsite to get things fixed ASAP.
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Message 21842 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 13:54:03 UTC

My clients were able to upload some WUs early this morning. Does that mean that SNAP is back up?

We shouldn't have to guess about this kind of thing, you know...
The game High /Low is played with two nuclear warheads. Both players toss a nuclear warhead into the air and the one whose bomb explodes higher in the air wins. This game is usually played by people of low intelligence, hence the name High/Low.
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Message 21844 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 14:01:49 UTC

My clients were able to upload some WUs early this morning. Does that mean that SNAP is back up?
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You were able to Upload them but can you Report them Yet. I have no problem Uploading but haven't been able to report them yet...???


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Message 21851 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 14:24:37 UTC
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> You were able to Upload them but can you Report them Yet. I have no problem Uploading but haven't been able to report them yet...???

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There has not been any problem uploading the wu's thoughout the entire time that the SNAP 18000 has been down, as far as I can see in my log. We should be able to send the 'Ready to Report' once they get the SNAP back up and running. The validator will be behind again when it gets slammed with all those. ;)

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Message 21863 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 14:58:16 UTC
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Well I haven't been able to Report anything, I just keep getting the No schedulers responded Message from the Server..I have no problem Uploading finished WU though...
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Message 21864 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 15:03:34 UTC
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I have disable BOINC network access for now and keep everything
local. I am waiting to see what the problem was.
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Message 21875 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 15:43:06 UTC

I still have my network access active and waiting to see if my current 56 wu's that show 'Ready to Report' go out into Never/Never Land.

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Message 21876 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 15:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 21780.  

> @ xi3piscium
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> Berkeley, SSL is one day behind you, therefore when it's Friday in China, it's
> Thursday in California. I hope that helps.
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Which is why I've been telling my kids that I'm living in the future... call me, I'll tell you how the future is..... hmmm sounds like Frank Zappa or somebody named puffy tenticles...

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Message 21889 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 16:41:07 UTC - in response to Message 21771.  
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Given that it is 9:30am on Friday here in California, I'm sure they'll kick the SNAP this morning. Perhaps literally.

Remember too that the client is designed to work around outages, so having the SNAP down a few hours shouldn't hurt -- I'm running SETI and LHC and my machines have plenty to do.

So, given the choice of someone hopping back in the car, driving to campus, vs. waiting 12 hours, no biggie. If this happened on Friday night, I'd imagine that someone would be in on Saturday.

That said, some kind of remote reboot or IP KVM with reboot capability might be really handy.

> Reading between the lines, does "we will be down for the night" really
> mean "we will be down all weekend" of course it is Friday afternoon
> here in China as I write this....forgive me for being a skeptic.
> On a lighter note: As an American I can say "damn I miss baseball..."

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Message 21899 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 17:04:01 UTC - in response to Message 21691.  

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> Might be time to lower my SETI resource share... make the WUs last....
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If I could actually get any WUs I'd do the same. Anybody else ready to go back to "Classic"?
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Message 21904 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 17:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 21889.  

> Given that it is 9:30am on Friday here in California, I'm sure they'll kick
> the SNAP this morning. Perhaps literally.
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> Remember too that the client is designed to work around outages, so having the
> SNAP down a few hours shouldn't hurt -- I'm running SETI and LHC and my
> machines have plenty to do.
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I don't get it...I've been trying to get WUs on all 3 of the systems I've got running for the last 2 days.
IMHO something other than the SNAP is a problem. I keep getting the message that no servers are responding.
I'd run the climatepredictor but it kept popping an error everytime it tried to start and I just haven't had the time or inclination to track the problem on their fourms.
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Message 21907 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 17:21:52 UTC - in response to Message 21904.  


> I don't get it...I've been trying to get WUs on all 3 of the systems I've
> got running for the last 2 days.
> IMHO something other than the SNAP is a problem. I keep getting the
> message that no servers are responding.
> I'd run the climatepredictor but it kept popping an error everytime it
> tried to start and I just haven't had the time or inclination to track the
> problem on their fourms.

Opinions are good, but they are just that, opinions.

We can make some educated guesses based on what has been released:

We know what a SNAP 18000 is: we can read the spec. sheet on their site.

We know it's running the database because that's in another post from one of the BOINC/SETI staff.

Several functions use the database -- I don't know off-hand how many machines run schedulers, but we could figure that out -- the scheduler definitely needs access to the database.

Uploading work-units doesn't seem to need the database. Downloading doesn't either, except we need a scheduler to tell us what files we should get.

It appears that we can upload workunits, and nothing in BOINC really knows until the client tells a scheduler. That's why you can see uploaded work units "waiting to report" -- they're on the servers at Berkeley, but our machine hasn't told the scheduler. It also appears that the scheduler at some point says "yes, we have the work unit -- thank you" and until then the work unit stays on our machines.

But, that's all educated guesswork based on published documents and observed behaviour.
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Message 21909 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 17:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 21904.  

> I'd run the climatepredictor but it kept popping an error everytime it
> tried to start and I just haven't had the time or inclination to track the
> problem on their fourms.
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If it is the fortran error, there is a work around (downlading a text file and replacing another project file) somewhere in this thread: http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=2296
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Message 21915 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 17:43:00 UTC
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Climate Website just went down with "software error." Oops!
Edit: Disregard, site back up after 15 minutes.
REedit: Climate scheduler still down after 20 minutes.
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Message 21918 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 17:46:11 UTC - in response to Message 21899.  

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> > Might be time to lower my SETI resource share... make the WUs last....
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> If I could actually get any WUs I'd do the same. Anybody else ready to go
> back to "Classic"?
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>Give Boinc time. They just went public and it takes time to smooth out problems that will pop up. I usually get 5 to 15 wu to work at a time. so that when they do go down I can still have several wu still working and waiting to be uploaded. The reason for Boinc is more wu from different projects will be able to be worked once they get it to all come togeather.Once astro pulse comes on line with work to do is when things will get interesting. With classic this would not happen. Hang in there.....Norman
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Message 21925 - Posted: 3 Sep 2004, 18:15:26 UTC - in response to Message 21876.  

> > @ xi3piscium
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> > Berkeley, SSL is one day behind you, therefore when it's Friday in China,
> it's
> > Thursday in California. I hope that helps.
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> Which is why I've been telling my kids that I'm living in the future... call
> me, I'll tell you how the future is..... hmmm sounds like Frank Zappa or
> somebody named puffy tenticles...
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> Skip @ Beijing
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@Da Shu....I'm an American living and working in Chongqing.
I am living in the future...I was a big Zappa fan....zai jian.
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